QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:.

As for our Oline:

"15) San Francisco 49ersRegular-Season Grade: 80.2 (B-)

You sure? Cause the way his post reads, it's like one of the worst OLines in NFL history.

Brock got no help at all with a bunch of journeymen and did everything on his own.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

So we are comparing Josh Allen to Brock Purdy now?

Brock's best season in 2023 he had Aiuyk, Deebo, Jennings, Kittle and CMC. Give Allen those weapons and he breaks NFL records.

Last year Allen had a better year with worse weapons. Their top receiver was Shakir who had 800+ yards and Kincaid at TE who had 400+ yards. Brock still had Deebo, Jennings and Kittle and Mason wasn't far off from Cook in RB rankings.

Buffalo's run game was inconsistent every week. Cook had 1000 yards but a big part of their run game was Josh Allen and his legs who had 500+ yards. Take away his rushing yards and Buffalo is 2nd worst in the league in rushing yards just ahead of LV.

As for our Oline:

"15) San Francisco 49ersRegular-Season Grade: 80.2 (B-)

It was a tough end to the season for the San Francisco 49ers' offensive line, and having Trent Williams out with an injury was a big reason why. Williams ranked second on the year in OT PBWR, with Jake Brendel being the only other 49ers OL getting listed on the individual leaderboards to end the year.

With Williams absent, San Francisco posted four individual game grades of D+ or below in seven games. That led to their fall outside the top 10, ranking 18th over the final four weeks, thanks in part to a strong finish against the Cardinals.

Unlike the Chiefs, San Francisco did not have the interior depth to play well while struggling at left tackle. With a 37.1% pressure rate, the 49ers' pass-protection numbers looked bad on the surface, but their quarterbacks also hold the ball for over three seconds on average, ranking as the league's sixth-highest rate.

The main positive in San Francisco's numbers was run blocking, ranking fourth in RBYBC/rush (1.05). Yet, they ranked 24th in ESPN's RBWR metric, which suggests their yards before contact numbers are as much about the backs' style as the line's performance. When you combine those metrics, they average out as an average run-blocking group."

This is without Trent Williams and Aaron Banks for almost half the year. With them, we are a top 10 Oline.

The Bills were 4th BTW but statistically not far off from us.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-offensive-lines-nfl-rankings/

As for his comeback wins:

2 Fourth Quarter Comebacks and/or 2 Game-Winning Drives. One in 2022 and one in 2024

And.

One Postseason 4th Quarter Comeback and 3 Postseason Game-Winning Drives. One in 2022 vs Dallas and two in 2023 l. One vs GB and one vs Det.

"In regular-season action, Purdy has two career fourth-quarter comebacks. Tom Brady (46) and Peyton Manning (41) are atop the NFL record book; Dan Marino, for whom Purdy wears No. 13, registered 33 fourth-quarter comebacks, and Joe Montana's 26 are the 17th-most in NFL history"

Let's not act like he's Joe Montana all of a sudden with come from behind victories.

But overall Purdy is not good when trailing in the 4th quarter.

"#49ers Brock Purdy when down 1-8 points in 4th quarter or OT in regular season or playoffs: 41 for 72 for 502 yards, 3 TDs, 7 INTs, 52.9 passer rating (Purdy ranks 151st out of 160 QBs with 50+ attempts in that scenario since 2000)"

"Brock Purdy's career passer rating in the 4th quarter is lower than Zach Wilson's"

He has had 5 games in his career out of 46 games where he lead a comeback in the 4th But overall his 4th quarter stats sum up the fact that when we need him to make plays and put the game on his shoulders he is mediocre at best. He cannot get it done as of yet when it matters most.

He also has a 4-2 career playoff record but 0-2 in the biggest games of his career. The 2023 NFCC VS Philly when he got hurt and the 2024 SB.

Again, I like Purdy but paying him 50+ mil is a mistake IMO. The stats show that he is a league average QB without a star studded cast. The difference from 2023 to 2024 is night and day.

Purdy is clearly a Goff or Tua level guy. You can pay them but you need to make sure they have the support around them because they're not going do it on their own like the elite guys. After paying Purdy and our main guys getting older and regressing I don't see him having enough help around him. I'm not sure a massive contract extension is a wise move.

So the nfccg he got injured in was one of the biggest games in his career, but the one he played through and won doesn't factor into his 0-2 "biggest games" record lmao you guys are awesome

Give Allen more weapons and less pass protection and let him prove it. He's like LeBron to me. He would just take away from certain players like he does to Ray Davis and James Cook. Can he run an actual rhythm passing offense and utilize all the weapons with a sub par OL? I think not. He still needs to run which just takes away from all the great weapons

Goff and Tua have combined for 1 game with 40 or more rush yards. Brock has already done that 5 times. He's clearly not the same as those guys

Originally posted by random49er:
Hmmmm. So Brock (not the team, somehow) is "2-0" in chosen weather games,....and Mahomes is "0-2" in chosen SBs. Nevermind the 3 rings.

And everything was the OLs fault,..and whenever it wasnt, it was the receivers' faults,...meanwhile we're listed as having a QB that held the ball for over three seconds on average, ranking as the league's sixth-highest rate. This is not exactly the shining example we're looking for when we say great players tend to raise the level of those around them.

And we really think we're making a solid case for Brock here? He has a much stronger case on his own merits without all of this spinning.

Play whatever mental gymnastics you want to but when the narrative on Brock is he can't play in rain games then I'd say bringing up his record in such games in the playoffs is an important reminder than the narrative is way overblown.

Feel free to look at the stats in those games for both QBs while you're at it but the narrative on Mahomes isn't that he sucks when he doesn't have protection.

You yourself spent several posts laughing away the notion that Mahomes wasn't putting up his normal numbers without his top guys in the lineup because he was winning games and making key plays…yet once again when a similar comparison for Brock is made you're arguing against it.

Save it.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

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As for our Oline:

"15) San Francisco 49ersRegular-Season Grade: 80.2 (B-)

You sure? Cause the way his post reads, it's like one of the worst OLines in NFL history.

Brock got no help at all with a bunch of journeymen and did everything on his own.

Pff has no clues what it's watching with OL play or how to grade a line as a whole. Here's a guy that actually knows how OL works

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Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by genus49:
All star cast? Does that apply to the OL as well or are we going to pretend that Trent Williams being an all pro at LT means we have an all pro OL across the board?

You saw Mahomes, the greatest in the game right now, with poor pass pro right? 0-2 in SBs with 4 picks and only 3 garbage time TDs.

Pass pro is pretty important and ignoring how well Brock played with pretty poor pass protection in 2023 and just giving all that love to the skill players as if Brock wasn't an MVP runner up for a reason?

Brock has 40+ starts under his belt. That's plenty to evaluate whether he can play in this game or not.

Let's ignore that Jauan Jennings was playing like a top WR with Brock. Let's forget how Brock answered all the stupid questions people had for him in that 2023 season in the playoffs.

Can he play in the rain - check

Can he win without Deebo - check

Can he win if he has to make a game winning drive - check(in the rain btw, with a key big play to Chris Conley)

Can he lead a comeback down by 10+ - check

It's silly to point to last year with so much stuff going wrong and act like he hasn't proven that he can't play without all the fancy weapons. How about just some consistent ones and a good OL?

That's exactly what Josh Allen had last year and everyone acts like he was a one man roster out there.

Very good OL, excellent running game. Very good defense and special teams. Solid and consistent weapons to throw to.

He had his top guy out one game - it was arguably his worst game of the season. What does that tell us about Josh?

So we are comparing Josh Allen to Brock Purdy now?

Brock's best season in 2023 he had Aiuyk, Deebo, Jennings, Kittle and CMC. Give Allen those weapons and he breaks NFL records.

Last year Allen had a better year with worse weapons. Their top receiver was Shakir who had 800+ yards and Kincaid at TE who had 400+ yards. Brock still had Deebo, Jennings and Kittle and Mason wasn't far off from Cook in RB rankings.

Buffalo's run game was inconsistent every week. Cook had 1000 yards but a big part of their run game was Josh Allen and his legs who had 500+ yards. Take away his rushing yards and Buffalo is 2nd worst in the league in rushing yards just ahead of LV.

As for our Oline:

"15) San Francisco 49ersRegular-Season Grade: 80.2 (B-)

It was a tough end to the season for the San Francisco 49ers' offensive line, and having Trent Williams out with an injury was a big reason why. Williams ranked second on the year in OT PBWR, with Jake Brendel being the only other 49ers OL getting listed on the individual leaderboards to end the year.

With Williams absent, San Francisco posted four individual game grades of D+ or below in seven games. That led to their fall outside the top 10, ranking 18th over the final four weeks, thanks in part to a strong finish against the Cardinals.

Unlike the Chiefs, San Francisco did not have the interior depth to play well while struggling at left tackle. With a 37.1% pressure rate, the 49ers' pass-protection numbers looked bad on the surface, but their quarterbacks also hold the ball for over three seconds on average, ranking as the league's sixth-highest rate.

The main positive in San Francisco's numbers was run blocking, ranking fourth in RBYBC/rush (1.05). Yet, they ranked 24th in ESPN's RBWR metric, which suggests their yards before contact numbers are as much about the backs' style as the line's performance. When you combine those metrics, they average out as an average run-blocking group."

This is without Trent Williams and Aaron Banks for almost half the year. With them, we are a top 10 Oline.

The Bills were 4th BTW but statistically not far off from us.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-offensive-lines-nfl-rankings/

As for his comeback wins:

2 Fourth Quarter Comebacks and/or 2 Game-Winning Drives. One in 2022 and one in 2024

And.

One Postseason 4th Quarter Comeback and 3 Postseason Game-Winning Drives. One in 2022 vs Dallas and two in 2023 l. One vs GB and one vs Det.

"In regular-season action, Purdy has two career fourth-quarter comebacks. Tom Brady (46) and Peyton Manning (41) are atop the NFL record book; Dan Marino, for whom Purdy wears No. 13, registered 33 fourth-quarter comebacks, and Joe Montana's 26 are the 17th-most in NFL history"

Let's not act like he's Joe Montana all of a sudden with come from behind victories.

But overall Purdy is not good when trailing in the 4th quarter.

"#49ers Brock Purdy when down 1-8 points in 4th quarter or OT in regular season or playoffs: 41 for 72 for 502 yards, 3 TDs, 7 INTs, 52.9 passer rating (Purdy ranks 151st out of 160 QBs with 50+ attempts in that scenario since 2000)"

"Brock Purdy's career passer rating in the 4th quarter is lower than Zach Wilson's"

He has had 5 games in his career out of 46 games where he lead a comeback in the 4th But overall his 4th quarter stats sum up the fact that when we need him to make plays and put the game on his shoulders he is mediocre at best. He cannot get it done as of yet when it matters most.

He also has a 4-2 career playoff record but 0-2 in the biggest games of his career. The 2023 NFCC VS Philly when he got hurt and the 2024 SB.

Again, I like Purdy but paying him 50+ mil is a mistake IMO. The stats show that he is a league average QB without a star studded cast. The difference from 2023 to 2024 is night and day.

Purdy is clearly a Goff or Tua level guy. You can pay them but you need to make sure they have the support around them because they're not going do it on their own like the elite guys. After paying Purdy and our main guys getting older and regressing I don't see him having enough help around him. I'm not sure a massive contract extension is a wise move.

I swear some of you are looking to start arguments that aren't there.

The point was simply and yet you wrote a whole book about an argument that wasn't there. I wasn't comparing Brock to Allen. I was reminding you and others with similar takes that every QB needs help. Allen is a freak and I've said many times in here that he's a clearly better QB and able to do things that Brock will never be able to do.

However he needs help just like everyone else. We've seen him lose a game with 13 seconds left in a game. He's not Superman.

That was the point. That goes for every other QB in this sport.

As for your attempt to pretend that our OL play was solid in 2023, how about using your eyes? Go back and watch that SB and tell me, especially after Feliciano went down how often Brock had clean pockets to throw.

And in regards to Brock playing from behind…that's a Shanahan stat. Until Brock led us, in the rain btw and with no Deebo, to the game winning TD drive vs GB we had no comeback wins down 7+ in the 4th or something along those lines.

When the OL is struggling in pass pro and you can't use the run game or playaction to keep them a step late due to having to throw the whole offense suffers.

Originally posted by genus49:

I swear some of you are looking to start arguments that aren't there.

The point was simply and yet you wrote a whole book about an argument that wasn't there. I wasn't comparing Brock to Allen. I was reminding you and others with similar takes that every QB needs help. Allen is a freak and I've said many times in here that he's a clearly better QB and able to do things that Brock will never be able to do.

However he needs help just like everyone else. We've seen him lose a game with 13 seconds left in a game. He's not Superman.

That was the point. That goes for every other QB in this sport.

As for your attempt to pretend that our OL play was solid in 2023, how about using your eyes? Go back and watch that SB and tell me, especially after Feliciano went down how often Brock had clean pockets to throw.

And in regards to Brock playing from behind…that's a Shanahan stat. Until Brock led us, in the rain btw and with no Deebo, to the game winning TD drive vs GB we had no comeback wins down 7+ in the 4th or something along those lines.

When the OL is struggling in pass pro and you can't use the run game or playaction to keep them a step late due to having to throw the whole offense suffers.

He can do things Brady couldn't do, but I'm taking Brady over him all day. Allen's ball dominant style kinda gets in the way of a team full of weapons

QBs like Brady and Manning were so good at rhythm pocket passing that they could elevate players without having to run.They brought what nobody else on the field could bring and they brought it at the highest level. Josh brings that at a lower level along with some playmaking (which is just redundancy amongst a team of playmakers)

Can he play the game like the greats? Or will he always have to be a Cam Newton 100+ carries type to be highly effective? I think he'd have a ring by now if he could play like the greats, so my guess is he's not there yet

Originally posted by genus49:
I swear some of you are looking to start arguments that aren't there.

The point was simply and yet you wrote a whole book about an argument that wasn't there. I wasn't comparing Brock to Allen. I was reminding you and others with similar takes that every QB needs help. Allen is a freak and I've said many times in here that he's a clearly better QB and able to do things that Brock will never be able to do.

However he needs help just like everyone else. We've seen him lose a game with 13 seconds left in a game. He's not Superman.

That was the point. That goes for every other QB in this sport.

As for your attempt to pretend that our OL play was solid in 2023, how about using your eyes? Go back and watch that SB and tell me, especially after Feliciano went down how often Brock had clean pockets to throw.

And in regards to Brock playing from behind…that's a Shanahan stat. Until Brock led us, in the rain btw and with no Deebo, to the game winning TD drive vs GB we had no comeback wins down 7+ in the 4th or something along those lines.

When the OL is struggling in pass pro and you can't use the run game or playaction to keep them a step late due to having to throw the whole offense suffers.

And all I was trying to get across is that WITHOUT an All Star group of weapons Purdy is league average while Josh Allen with a subpar supporting cast can win games yet we want to pay Purdy a Josh Allen like contract.

Also, I was trying to say our Oline isn't as bad as people made it out to be. It's the same argument that McKivitz is garbage which isn't true at all. I don't think people realize how important Trent Williams is to the entire group and why we better start making a plan to replace him because without a dominant LT this entire offense struggles.

With Trent Williams and CMC our offense is elite. Without them they are average.

I think the proof is that with those guys we are a top 5 yardage AND scoring offense but without them we can still put up yards because Shanahan can scheme it up but we can't score.

I honestly think any QB that can make the proper reads will have success in this offense as long as we have the weapons to get open and Trent Williams leading the way in the run game.

You keep bringing up the Super Bowl but the group played fine until one blown protection and Burford let Jones run free which was probably called by Brendel.

Upgrade Brendel and this line will be top 10 IMO.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by genus49:
I swear some of you are looking to start arguments that aren't there.

The point was simply and yet you wrote a whole book about an argument that wasn't there. I wasn't comparing Brock to Allen. I was reminding you and others with similar takes that every QB needs help. Allen is a freak and I've said many times in here that he's a clearly better QB and able to do things that Brock will never be able to do.

However he needs help just like everyone else. We've seen him lose a game with 13 seconds left in a game. He's not Superman.

That was the point. That goes for every other QB in this sport.

As for your attempt to pretend that our OL play was solid in 2023, how about using your eyes? Go back and watch that SB and tell me, especially after Feliciano went down how often Brock had clean pockets to throw.

And in regards to Brock playing from behind…that's a Shanahan stat. Until Brock led us, in the rain btw and with no Deebo, to the game winning TD drive vs GB we had no comeback wins down 7+ in the 4th or something along those lines.

When the OL is struggling in pass pro and you can't use the run game or playaction to keep them a step late due to having to throw the whole offense suffers.

And all I was trying to get across is that WITHOUT an All Star group of weapons Purdy is league average while Josh Allen with a subpar supporting cast can win games yet we want to pay Purdy a Josh Allen like contract.

Also, I was trying to say our Oline isn't as bad as people made it out to be. It's the same argument that McKivitz is garbage which isn't true at all. I don't think people realize how important Trent Williams is to the entire group and why we better start making a plan to replace him because without a dominant LT this entire offense struggles.

With Trent Williams and CMC our offense is elite. Without them they are average.

I think the proof is that with those guys we are a top 5 yardage AND scoring offense but without them we can still put up yards because Shanahan can scheme it up but we can't score.

I honestly think any QB that can make the proper reads will have success in this offense as long as we have the weapons to get open and Trent Williams leading the way in the run game.

You keep bringing up the Super Bowl but the group played fine until one blown protection and Burford let Jones run free which was probably called by Brendel.

Upgrade Brendel and this line will be top 10 IMO.

For f**ks sake, Purdy just finished his 2nd full year. You are comparing a guy who is a seasoned veteran with a guy who just endured what some might describe as a bit of a sophomore slump. The guy is still learning just like any young QB and he will surely improve just as Josh Allen improved as a young QB.

To claim Brock's ceiling is Tua or Goff is an exercise in wasting one's time. We simply don't know how our young QB will respond as he grows further into the position. I choose to be much more optimistic given his entire body of work up to this point, which again, is sitting at about 2 1/2 seasons.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:.

As for our Oline:

"15) San Francisco 49ersRegular-Season Grade: 80.2 (B-)

You sure? Cause the way his post reads, it's like one of the worst OLines in NFL history.

Brock got no help at all with a bunch of journeymen and did everything on his own.

My post reads just fine considering I specifically mentioned pass protection...you know the thing that affects QB play?

There is also something called the eye test...Feliciano came in later in the season and helped improve it and then what do you know he got injured in the SB and we know how that went.

Save the pompous replies.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
And all I was trying to get across is that WITHOUT an All Star group of weapons Purdy is league average while Josh Allen with a subpar supporting cast can win games yet we want to pay Purdy a Josh Allen like contract.

Also, I was trying to say our Oline isn't as bad as people made it out to be. It's the same argument that McKivitz is garbage which isn't true at all. I don't think people realize how important Trent Williams is to the entire group and why we better start making a plan to replace him because without a dominant LT this entire offense struggles.

With Trent Williams and CMC our offense is elite. Without them they are average.

I think the proof is that with those guys we are a top 5 yardage AND scoring offense but without them we can still put up yards because Shanahan can scheme it up but we can't score.

I honestly think any QB that can make the proper reads will have success in this offense as long as we have the weapons to get open and Trent Williams leading the way in the run game.

You keep bringing up the Super Bowl but the group played fine until one blown protection and Burford let Jones run free which was probably called by Brendel.

Upgrade Brendel and this line will be top 10 IMO.

I'm having a tough time taking you seriously when you say this. Trent Williams killed a drive all on his own. Banks had a critical false start on the drive after the Mahomes pick on what would've been a run play putting us in 2nd and long situation and that was after a free runner came in to pressure Brock into a last second throw away to avoid a sack on a big play we had drawn up that would've had us in FG range right away.

And no last year our OL wasn't as bad as people said but it was bad in 2023 and certainly far from a situation where Brock had it all made. You want to see made? Look at the Eagles and what Jalen Hurts had to do.

Regardless it's completely disingenuous to pretend you can't pay Brock big money because he's not a guy like Josh Allen. There are maybe 3-4 QBs who are in that category. What's the brilliant plan? Keep drafting QBs until you find one? You enjoy losing games that much?

The offense we have needs a guy like Brock. I don't care how Brock would do on Buffalo. I know how he does in this offense and how he is in our locker room. You don't let a guy like that walk for a what if.

It's amazing to me that with everything that went down last year Brock put up the numbers that he did and we're still trying to act like he needs everything to be perfect.

Joe Burrow just put up MVP like numbers on offense and didn't make the playoffs. Does he need things to be perfect too? Funny how having a poor defense can hold a QB back from winning games right?

And no it's not me saying Purdy is Burrow...it's another reminder how even the elite QBs don't get it done on their own. And once again you not knowing certain players or thinking they're any good because they're not big names(we're all guilty of this) doesn't mean they're not good players. You cannot argue against the fact that the single game Shakir missed for Buffalo Allen had his weakest game. 30% completion, 131 passing yards 1 TD(which was like 40 yards YAC by Coleman) and could've easily had a couple of picks on the board had Houston guys not pulled a Tartt.

Sometimes guys who aren't well known still make a big difference to their QBs. Consistency at the position is incredibly important, even more so to a guy like Purdy whose game is so heavily based on anticipation and timing. Allen and guys like him don't need it AS much because they can make those magic plays running around and just flicking it to open guys down the field but it still clearly matters.

And lastly we clearly see you can pay limited QBs and build around them and win SBs. Not sure why some of you act like if we pay Brock it's a team filled with Ronnie Bells around him.

Originally posted by Chance:
For f**ks sake, Purdy just finished his 2nd full year. You are comparing a guy who is a seasoned veteran with a guy who just endured what some might describe as a bit of a sophomore slump. The guy is still learning just like any young QB and he will surely improve just as Josh Allen improved as a young QB.

To claim Brock's ceiling is Tua or Goff is an exercise in wasting one's time. We simply don't know how our young QB will respond as he grows further into the position. I choose to be much more optimistic given his entire body of work up to this point, which again, is sitting at about 2 1/2 seasons.

This. I think ppl forget how new Purdy is in this league. Maybe cause he came out of the gate playing like a seasoned vet?

Originally posted by Chance:
For f**ks sake, Purdy just finished his 2nd full year. You are comparing a guy who is a seasoned veteran with a guy who just endured what some might describe as a bit of a sophomore slump. The guy is still learning just like any young QB and he will surely improve just as Josh Allen improved as a young QB.

To claim Brock's ceiling is Tua or Goff is an exercise in wasting one's time. We simply don't know how our young QB will respond as he grows further into the position. I choose to be much more optimistic given his entire body of work up to this point, which again, is sitting at about 2 1/2 seasons.

Yeah the Tua or Goff thing is ridiculous. We all know their limitations. We've seen them time and time again - pressure. Get to them and they melt.

I have never seen Brock melt like that. Even against Baltimore with the terrible game it wasn't him wilting under the pressure. It was just him trying to make plays to get us back in the game and ball was just bouncing the wrong way.

Not to mention both Tua and Goff have similar seasons to what Brock just put on there but without the massive injuries to their top playmakers. It was simply them playing with a weaker OL or lack of strong running game.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Chance:
For f**ks sake, Purdy just finished his 2nd full year. You are comparing a guy who is a seasoned veteran with a guy who just endured what some might describe as a bit of a sophomore slump. The guy is still learning just like any young QB and he will surely improve just as Josh Allen improved as a young QB.

To claim Brock's ceiling is Tua or Goff is an exercise in wasting one's time. We simply don't know how our young QB will respond as he grows further into the position. I choose to be much more optimistic given his entire body of work up to this point, which again, is sitting at about 2 1/2 seasons.

This. I think ppl forget how new Purdy is in this league. Maybe cause he came out of the gate playing like a seasoned vet?

Just think, if Trey Lance had the stats and success Purdy did, no one would be talking about game manager or talent he has around him. And we would be hearing a s**tload of excuses about his sophomore slump. lol

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Pff has no clues what it's watching with OL play or how to grade a line as a whole. Here's a guy that actually knows how OL works

Brian Baldinger has seen enough of Jake Brendel:

"I think they have to upgrade the center. I say this to offensive line coaches and I would say this to Chris as well, and I respect Chris Foerster, I think Chris is an excellent coach, but I would say if your center isn't strong,… pic.twitter.com/eNFXlj0iBV

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) December 24, 2024

Brendel isn't just bad, he's one of (if not thee) worst centers in the nfl. If we put a rookie in there - it isn't like things couldn't get much worse (within reason).

I hope we upgrade cause he's just god awful

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Pff has no clues what it's watching with OL play or how to grade a line as a whole. Here's a guy that actually knows how OL works

Brian Baldinger has seen enough of Jake Brendel:

"I think they have to upgrade the center. I say this to offensive line coaches and I would say this to Chris as well, and I respect Chris Foerster, I think Chris is an excellent coach, but I would say if your center isn't strong,… pic.twitter.com/eNFXlj0iBV

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) December 24, 2024

Brendel isn't just bad, he's one of (if not thee) worst centers in the nfl. If we put a rookie in there - it isn't like things couldn't get much worse (within reason).

I hope we upgrade cause he's just god awful

Feliciano was claiming he was dealing with a bunch of injuries last year but we just can't take that chance again. He was a menace out there. Need him on the bench if not off the team completely.