QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

They are incredible talents. But how many rings did LeBron think he was winning in Miami? He's been trying to stack the deck ever since and still only has 5 4rings. I think Allen is clearly capable of winning a championship his way, but I think surrounding him with elite players would have underwhelming results, like Lebrons Heat. Unless he can play like the all time greats, but I've only seen him in Cam mode

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I don't agree with the comparison at all, but I don't want to turn this into a NBA thread so agree to disagree.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I would not give Brock a cent over 45 million, at this time.

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Do you think there is any chance Brock holds out at that number?

Would you bet Ben Johnson wouldn't, with a similar system, near his school, and near his wife's farm. With luck, dude might even have some head coaching skills and an offensive line.

what the heck am i reading

Translated further by your personal AI assistant. . Could he go to Chicago. Close to wife's farm. They may build or have a really good OL and maybe Ben might be a really good HC and Brock would be a magical fit.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I would not give Brock a cent over 45 million, at this time.

Do you think there is any chance Brock holds out at that number?

Would you bet Ben Johnson wouldn't, with a similar system, near his school, and near his wife's farm. With luck, dude might even have some head coaching skills and an offensive line.

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what the heck am i reading

Translated further by your personal AI assistant. . Could he go to Chicago. Close to wife's farm. They may build or have a really good OL and maybe Ben might be a really good HC and Brock would be a magical fit.

Nope. He's saying if you want to low ball Brock, he's not obligated to chain his career to Kyle's, and he will have options with prospects of success.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I would not give Brock a cent over 45 million, at this time.

Do you think there is any chance Brock holds out at that number?

Would you bet Ben Johnson wouldn't, with a similar system, near his school, and near his wife's farm. With luck, dude might even have some head coaching skills and an offensive line.

what the heck am i reading

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Translated further by your personal AI assistant. . Could he go to Chicago. Close to wife's farm. They may build or have a really good OL and maybe Ben might be a really good HC and Brock would be a magical fit.

Nope. He's saying if you want to low ball Brock, he's not obligated to chain his career to Kyle's, and he will have options with prospects of success.

but he is obligated. he is under contract.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I would not give Brock a cent over 45 million, at this time.

Do you think there is any chance Brock holds out at that number?

Would you bet Ben Johnson wouldn't, with a similar system, near his school, and near his wife's farm. With luck, dude might even have some head coaching skills and an offensive line.

what the heck am i reading

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Translated further by your personal AI assistant. . Could he go to Chicago. Close to wife's farm. They may build or have a really good OL and maybe Ben might be a really good HC and Brock would be a magical fit.

Nope. He's saying if you want to low ball Brock, he's not obligated to chain his career to Kyle's, and he will have options with prospects of success.

but he is obligated. he is under contract.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

I don't agree with the comparison at all, but I don't want to turn this into a NBA thread so agree to disagree.

It's a ludicrous comparison. You have to love the assumption that Allen couldn't succeed in a system like ours because he's in a lesser one with lesser talent around him. He'd be an upgrade for at minimum 29 other teams and a big one for us.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I don't agree with the comparison at all, but I don't want to turn this into a NBA thread so agree to disagree.

It's a ludicrous comparison. You have to love the assumption that Allen couldn't succeed in a system like ours because he's in a lesser one with lesser talent around him. He'd be an upgrade for at minimum 29 other teams and a big one for us.

Originally posted by Niners99:
If you let him play out this season he will hit the open market and every QB needy team will start bidding on him. The 49ers know they have to get this done.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I would not give Brock a cent over 45 million, at this time.

Do you think there is any chance Brock holds out at that number?

Would you bet Ben Johnson wouldn't, with a similar system, near his school, and near his wife's farm. With luck, dude might even have some head coaching skills and an offensive line.

what the heck am i reading

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Translated further by your personal AI assistant. . Could he go to Chicago. Close to wife's farm. They may build or have a really good OL and maybe Ben might be a really good HC and Brock would be a magical fit.

Nope. He's saying if you want to low ball Brock, he's not obligated to chain his career to Kyle's, and he will have options with prospects of success.

but he is obligated. he is under contract.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I would not give Brock a cent over 45 million, at this time.

Do you think there is any chance Brock holds out at that number?

Would you bet Ben Johnson wouldn't, with a similar system, near his school, and near his wife's farm. With luck, dude might even have some head coaching skills and an offensive line.

what the heck am i reading

Translated further by your personal AI assistant. . Could he go to Chicago. Close to wife's farm. They may build or have a really good OL and maybe Ben might be a really good HC and Brock would be a magical fit.

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Nope. He's saying if you want to low ball Brock, he's not obligated to chain his career to Kyle's, and he will have options with prospects of success.

but he is obligated. he is under contract.

At $5.1m. I wonder if he shows up for the off season and all but the last 6 games of the season to get the season accrual. That money is so far below his market value that it logically would not be worth the injury risk.

In other words, not gonna happen.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Never said he couldn't succeed with us. Never said he wouldn't be an upgrade. Even said he obviously can win a SB. The point is ball dominant mega talents are incredible at what they do, but surrounding them with elite talent doesn't always produce the sheer dominance you think it would. Allen's style just takes away from the great players. All due respect to him, but I'd rather have a real pure passer over a jack of all trades on a loaded team

Originally posted by BOI49er:
At $5.1m. I wonder if he shows up for the off season and all but the last 6 games of the season to get the season accrual. That money is so far below his market value that it logically would not be worth the injury risk.

In other words, not gonna happen. So if practically speaking, if you can't hold him to it because that's not in his best interest, is he really under contract?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Never said he couldn't succeed with us. Never said he wouldn't be an upgrade. Even said he obviously can win a SB. The point is ball dominant mega talents are incredible at what they do, but surrounding them with elite talent doesn't always produce the sheer dominance you think it would. Allen's style just takes away from the great players. All due respect to him, but I'd rather have a real pure passer over a jack of all trades on a loaded team

This is the idea that I was responding to. The assumption that his style would take away from great players around him when it's at least in part a product of not having great players around him and being in a lesser system. He has a larger burden than the vast majority of successful QBs in the league. Applied to him in college as well.