QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Kyle isn't dragging anything out. Our history of caving at crunch time is dragging these negotiations out. I don't believe that's Paraag caving but only late in the game, but suit yourself.

And of course there is a market established for quarterbacks. It's just a matter of slotting Brock in. Jed just acknowledged he's at least top 10. And for all practical purposes, he Is a free agent for pay purposes, because you can't make him play for $5.1m. He won't.

you keep saying this but it is your opinion only. i think he would play for 5.1m. he's played for less than that. a lot less. but again, it derails the convo, cuz you and i both think a deal will get done. so the will he play on 5.1 convo is too early. it's april 1. you can fast forward 5 months and still not 1 regular season game played. so there is time here. a lot of time.

League rules did not allow a change in his rookie deal until now.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
So he admits we are going to have another distraction with a contract negotiation. Every year this regime lets contract negotiations drag on creating drama and they always cave in the end.

Im done with these guys.

If they gave every player everything they wanted, maybe we'd be able to field 20 or so guys with mostly minimum deal guys off the street to get under the cap. You've predetermined which side is at fault with no details at all.

Jed York said today Brock is a Top 10 QB. That's okay with me. If he said Top 5 we would be in trouble.

That should equate to my 45 million/year prediction. 😀

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Jed York said today Brock is a Top 10 QB. That's okay with me. If he said Top 5 we would be in trouble.

That should equate to my 45 million/year prediction. 😀

in a nutshell, so long as he isint advertising. Looking forward to this and the draft.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Jed York said today Brock is a Top 10 QB. That's okay with me. If he said Top 5 we would be in trouble.

That should equate to my 45 million/year prediction. 😀

FWIW, the 10th highest paid "quarterback" is Jalen Hurts, an athlete attempting to play the position, is getting $51million/yr.

Jordan Love is still that target at $55million. Trevor Lawrence, an average QB, is also at that same level.

At $45M, you get Murray, Watson, Cousins. Everyone will agree Purdy is worth more than any of those three.

$51M is the low-ball number right now.

Originally posted by dj43:
FWIW, the 10th highest paid "quarterback" is Jalen Hurts, an athlete attempting to play the position, is getting $51million/yr.

Hurts earned $6.2M in 2023, $40M in 2024, and is slated to earn $42.5M in 2025 after bonuses. He has yet to cross the $50M/yr threshold.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Jed York said today Brock is a Top 10 QB. That's okay with me. If he said Top 5 we would be in trouble.

That should equate to my 45 million/year prediction. 😀

FWIW, the 10th highest paid "quarterback" is Jalen Hurts, an athlete attempting to play the position, is getting $51million/yr.

Jordan Love is still that target at $55million. Trevor Lawrence, an average QB, is also at that same level.

At $45M, you get Murray, Watson, Cousins. Everyone will agree Purdy is worth more than any of those three.

$51M is the low-ball number right now.

SB MVP. i'd say he's attempting to do it pretty well. hurts challenge is they play the 2 deep and he has to settle for short stuff and process and be accurate and that's not his game. but if you are gonna respect that deep ball saquon is gonna feast. so will hurts with his legs. so its a pick your poison. you come up, he can beat you deep. i like hurts as QB he would have a ring for shanny imo. short yardage and red zone he's a cheat code with his physical running style. you put a healthy CMC next to Hurts, well you just saw that operation with Saquon, and what it can do to KC. 40 points. brock can move around but he's not the physical runner hurts is, he doesn't have the arm talent either like Jalen does. now brock is the quicker short area processer. but i see our offense as let's run and let's punish you when you cheat up. so i think jalen would fit what we do better. if you want to spread it out horizontal and throw a bunch of short stuff maybe pick brock, but that's not what we do here. we want to run the football.

Originally posted by dj43:
FWIW, the 10th highest paid "quarterback" is Jalen Hurts, an athlete attempting to play the position, is getting $51million/yr.

Jordan Love is still that target at $55million. Trevor Lawrence, an average QB, is also at that same level.

At $45M, you get Murray, Watson, Cousins. Everyone will agree Purdy is worth more than any of those three.

$51M is the low-ball number right now.

Yes, Purdy is a better QB than Murray, Watson and Cousins. But he's still not worth 45 mil.

It's not our fault those idiot GMs signed mediocre QBs to double what they are worth.

If Purdy wants 50+ mil he can walk. Plain and simple. Good luck elsewhere without Shanahan and an All Star cast.

4 years, 160 mil with incentives that can push it to 50 mil. Go out and prove it on the field and get paid. It's as easy as that. Or, holdout and don't get paid and get franchised for two years or traded to a mediocre team with no weapons. We have ALL the leverage here

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by dj43:

FWIW, the 10th highest paid "quarterback" is Jalen Hurts, an athlete attempting to play the position, is getting $51million/yr.

Jordan Love is still that target at $55million. Trevor Lawrence, an average QB, is also at that same level.

At $45M, you get Murray, Watson, Cousins. Everyone will agree Purdy is worth more than any of those three.

$51M is the low-ball number right now.

Yes, Purdy is a better QB than Murray, Watson and Cousins. But he's still not worth 45 mil.

It's not our fault those idiot GMs signed mediocre QBs to double what they are worth.

If Purdy wants 50+ mil he can walk. Plain and simple. Good luck elsewhere without Shanahan and an All Star cast.

4 years, 160 mil with incentives that can push it to 50 mil. Go out and prove it on the field and get paid. It's as easy as that. Or, holdout and don't get paid and get franchised for two years or traded to a mediocre team with no weapons. We have ALL the leverage here

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Jed York said today Brock is a Top 10 QB. That's okay with me. If he said Top 5 we would be in trouble.

That should equate to my 45 million/year prediction. 😀

i think he's top 5, but probably not a good negotiation strategy to say that publicly

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Yes, Purdy is a better QB than Murray, Watson and Cousins. But he's still not worth 45 mil.

It's not our fault those idiot GMs signed mediocre QBs to double what they are worth.

If Purdy wants 50+ mil he can walk. Plain and simple. Good luck elsewhere without Shanahan and an All Star cast.

4 years, 160 mil with incentives that can push it to 50 mil. Go out and prove it on the field and get paid. It's as easy as that. Or, holdout and don't get paid and get franchised for two years or traded to a mediocre team with no weapons. We have ALL the leverage here

The market was set by those players, the market isn't going to go down.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
The market was set by those players, the market isn't going to go down.

The market was set by idiot GMs. That doesn't mean we have to overpay Purdy just because other mediocre QBs got paid.

We have all the leverage here and can have Purdy for 3 more years without an extension.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
The market was set by those players, the market isn't going to go down.

The market was set by idiot GMs. That doesn't mean we have to overpay Purdy just because other mediocre QBs got paid.

We have all the leverage here and can have Purdy for 3 more years without an extension.

good points. the reality is he's coming off a down year, we won 6 games, finished last place and his passes weren't very crisp. so that all should get factored into the deal. if he's coming off the 2023 season, he may get that record deal or what not. 2024 wasn't great. i think given his career earnings he'd be thrilled with a $45m aav payout and mega millions gtd. that's still what you would call 'paying the man'. it would be our richest club contract in history.

then you have the idea of incentives.

how about $45m aav and he can earn up to much more, via performance and availability related bonus

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by dj43:
FWIW, the 10th highest paid "quarterback" is Jalen Hurts, an athlete attempting to play the position, is getting $51million/yr.

Hurts earned $6.2M in 2023, $40M in 2024, and is slated to earn $42.5M in 2025 after bonuses. He has yet to cross the $50M/yr threshold.

Hurts did not earn 6.2M in 2023. That was his cap hit. His cash that season was 24.3M.

When Hurts signed his contract, it was a top contract.

• 255M in new cash (over 5 years) was #3 behind Mahomes (450M/10) and Allen (258M/6).
• 51M extension AAV was #1 ahead of Rodgers (50.3M) and Russ (48.5M).
• 110M gtd at signing was #3 behind Watson (230M) and Russ (124M)
• 179.4M total guaranteed over the contract was #2 behind Watson (230M).

The complaints when that contract was announced were that you couldn't build a roster paying a quarterback 50M. They'll never get back to the super bowl. Too much money! Then Lamar passed him 10 days later. Herbert and Burrow later in that offseason. Mahomes 5-year cash restructure a year later. Goff, The Prince, Tua, Love, Dak, and now Allen. Now that he's sitting 10th, everyone's like "pretty good contract"... Oh, and he won a Super Bowl.

Hurts' contract is backloaded. He didn't get a huge signing bonus and instead is getting really huge option bonuses on the back half. The contract had a 23.3M signing bonus and option bonuses of 38.9M, 41.3M, 50.3M, 50.2M, and 50.1M. Why? Because the Eagles were pressed on cap space and couldn't afford a large signing bonus to spread over 2023-24. Hurts will never cross the 50M/yr threshold on cap hits because all of those options had 5-year prorations baked into the original contract. His cashflow will hit 50M+ starting in year four.

Purdy's extension isn't going to be much different. He's going to have minimum salaries the first few years. The 49ers can load up Purdy's contract with a large signing bonus to keep his cap hits lower in years 2 through 5. There will be option bonuses in at least years 2 and 3. I would expect an option bonus in year 4 but if they opted to keep it all as just salary (can be restructured into a signing bonus), that would be the earliest his cap hit would be 50M+. A minimized salary and option bonus in year 4 would likely push the first 50M+ cap hit into year 5.

The carousel of qb contracts is coming back around. It would have been nice to get Purdy extended before Allen, but that didn't happen and Allen reset the market. Luckily for the 49ers, nobody should really push the market up any further this year. Maybe Lamar and the Ravens? I believe they reset the market next year before Stroud and maybe Mahomes.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Jed York said today Brock is a Top 10 QB. That's okay with me. If he said Top 5 we would be in trouble.

That should equate to my 45 million/year prediction. 😀

i think he's top 5, but probably not a good negotiation strategy to say that publicly

It's not a good negotiation strategy to say he's top-10 either. As was already pointed out, the 10th best QB contract is already shelling out 51M on the extension AAV, and that contract was two years ago.