Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't think there is much of any reality of brock missing games, or holding out long, or the club using the tag. it's all a pretty poorly played game of poker.
the player wants to be here, and the club wants the player. i see this done quick. brock wants to be out there for offseason. if you think brock wants to be out there for offseason, which i do, then you don't think he's gonna play hardball and demand the world. he just wants a nice, large, fat, rich deal, which he will get. the club seems willing to give it. the only way this drags is if the player says wants it to imo. i don't see that. this is all good news for 49er fans. it will be over soon and at a price we can live with.
...but will YOU be able to live with it?
ppl can get emotional on QB, for me it's just talking ball and how much i like this persons game. 2024 i didn't like brock's game. i felt he was trying to do too much, he was holding the ball, he wasn't as accurate, his passes lacked zip. i think his story of mr irrelevant to QB1 and his game against TB12 it's one of the best stories of my time watching the 49ers. this is my 4th decade now watching 49ers.
the guy had his throw arm blow up in the biggest game of his life, he had to wait a month for swelling to go down, get his arm which is his money maker worked on and he didn't miss a game. he was out there for training camp and the season went to mid february. he was in the mvp convo. he didn't get really a day off from his rook season to the KC super bowl. it was injury, to rehab, to training camp, to season and playoffs and so forth. one of my favorite aspects of nfl is guys overcoming adversity such as trying to make roster, overcome injury, he's done all that. now as a club, you still have to be level headed and do what is best for the team. this is a capped sport, so we can't just pay him banana bucks, there is opportunity cost up and down the roster. i'm proud of what he's accomplished, at the same time i don't know if he's gonna be the long term guy. he'll have to keep improving. if we see the 2024 season on repeat, he won't be here long and neither will shanny. that's just the nature of the nfl, not for long..
OK, let's talk ball. (BTW, your posts would be much easier to read if you used capitalization.
)Shanahan's passing offense is all based on timing and positioning. Receivers have to run precise routes and be in the correct place at the correct time. In 2023, Aiyuk was fantastic in that role and he and Brock were nearly unstoppable. They had whatever they wanted whenever they wanted it. CMC was equally reliable. Kittle found those places in zones that made the short game work.
In 2024, without Aiyuk in TC and full-on chemistry in place, the passing game never got started...and then it ended with the injury. No CMC so LBs could drop into zones that took away the routes that a healthy BA would have had to his own. Also, defenses began pulling safeties down and into the middle to take away all the stuff that had worked so well in 2023. Deebo, never a good route runner, provided no relief. Defenses keyed on him for screens and swing plays that worked so well when Aiyuk was keeping things together over the middle. JJ had a bit of a break-out year but he and Brock did not begin to develop chemistry until the second half.
All of that paints a clear picture of a lack of reliable targets for the QB. In a zone-based offense, if the QB cannot depend on his receivers being where they should be at the correct time, it is going to reflect on the performance of the QB. As much as we talk about the quarterback "lifting up his teammates", that is all nonsense when the teammates are not in a place where the QB can lift them up. Shanahan's scheme only works if the receivers are where they need to be on a reliable basis.
"Next man up" is another wonderful platitude but that too is nonsense when the next man up is not capable of doing what the man that just went down was doing. In 2024, that rarely happened with the frequency of 2023, and the result was "regression."
It would make the thread more productive if you would acknowledge some of these intricate and related parts of the game when you discuss Purdy.
FWIW, I stand by my prediction of two months ago that Purdy's contract will fall very close to Jordan Love's deal, which was signed two year ago. The salary cap has increased $56 million since then. Hence, a contract like Love's now would represent a "discount" in current dollars - a point worth considering.
[ Edited by dj43 on Apr 3, 2025 at 1:13 PM ]