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Originally posted by TD49ers:Originally posted by jcs:Originally posted by Typecast:+ Show all quotes
No.
Statistically he was.
With less
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:I would argue his "view" is based on one thing and one thing only. He makes inflammatory remarks to get attention. He does this to remain relevant. It's all about the clicks. Clicks=$. Why does Bonilla assist him and others like him by basically reposting trash?
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Since when?
also what did I miss? Why are we talking about Florio?
Because he has a view that should be considered. He is not in a bubble.
You can say this about any young qb. Nobody is guaranteed to become great
Originally posted by dj43:
Comparative ratings of players in the same position is always of interest. In this case, the effectiveness of quarterbacks in running the ball. Here is PFF's ranking:
Allen - 93.6
Hurts - 91.1
Jackson - 90.4
Purdy - 90.2
Daniels - 90.0
Mahomes - 87
Darnold - 82.5
Murray - 81.8
Nix - 81.2
Notice there are five that are well above the next highest player (Mahomes). Then a big drop. No one else is really in the conversation.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We'd have to package every receiver Brock has ever played with to trade for TO at his peak. And we still might get turned down lol. Brock's receivers are beyond overrated and his pass pro sucks
Originally posted by random49er:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:We'd have to package every receiver Brock has ever played with to trade for TO at his peak. And we still might get turned down lol. Brock's receivers are beyond overrated and his pass pro sucks
I mean yea,...he's basically been a 1-man show since he got here. The other 10 guys have mostly been useless and he's been great. This defines his greatness as a QB.
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:I would argue his "view" is based on one thing and one thing only. He makes inflammatory remarks to get attention. He does this to remain relevant. It's all about the clicks. Clicks=$. Why does Bonilla assist him and others like him by basically reposting trash?
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Because he has a view that should be considered. He is not in a bubble.
You can say this about any young qb. Nobody is guaranteed to become great
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We'd have to package every receiver Brock has ever played with to trade for TO at his peak. And we still might get turned down lol. Brock's receivers are beyond overrated and his pass pro sucks
I mean yea,...he's basically been a 1-man show since he got here. The other 10 guys have mostly been useless and he's been great. This defines his greatness as a QB.
I've always said CMC and Kittle are elite weapons. If I'm trying to put up crazy passing numbers though give me peak TO and better pass pro
Originally posted by random49er:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Originally posted by random49er:+ Show all quotes
I mean yea,...he's basically been a 1-man show since he got here. The other 10 guys have mostly been useless and he's been great. This defines his greatness as a QB.
I've always said CMC and Kittle are elite weapons. If I'm trying to put up crazy passing numbers though give me peak TO and better pass pro
They open things up for WRs and mitigate pass pro, though. QB-to-WR offense doesnt take place in a vacuum.
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I've always said CMC and Kittle are elite weapons. If I'm trying to put up crazy passing numbers though give me peak TO and better pass pro
They open things up for WRs and mitigate pass pro, though. QB-to-WR offense doesnt take place in a vacuum.
He was really opening everything up for those QBs in Carolina before he got traded. Give me prime TO as my top weapon if I'm a qb trying to put up numbers. It's not even close
Originally posted by random49er:Brock doesn't have the arm strength Garcia had to get it out to TO like that
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by random49er:
Brock doesn't have the arm strength Garcia had to get it out to TO like that
Lol
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by random49er:
Brock doesn't have the arm strength Garcia had to get it out to TO like that
Lol
Originally posted by random49er:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Originally posted by random49er:Brock doesn't have the arm strength Garcia had to get it out to TO like that
Lol
This is a relative thing. Neither were known for their arm strength but Jeff easily gets the nod on those deep outs and go patterns.
Doesnt need the time to step into anything and could quickly zing in 50+ yards. If you've some comparable clips, please post. But TO's talents certainly match Garcia better.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Comparative ratings of players in the same position is always of interest. In this case, the effectiveness of quarterbacks in running the ball. Here is PFF's ranking:
Allen - 93.6
Hurts - 91.1
Jackson - 90.4
Purdy - 90.2
Daniels - 90.0
Mahomes - 87
Darnold - 82.5
Murray - 81.8
Nix - 81.2
Notice there are five that are well above the next highest player (Mahomes). Then a big drop. No one else is really in the conversation.
I'm guessing this means efficiency because Jackson is eons more effective running the ball than Purdy.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
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Statistically he was.
With less
We'd have to package every receiver Brock has ever played with to trade for TO at his peak. And we still might get turned down lol. Brock's receivers are beyond overrated and his pass pro sucks
