QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
And you keep saying I don't understand the bolded when you say it 500 times.

Then I reply with if we pay Purdy 50 million dollars we won't have the money to have that elite group of playmakers and this regime has not shown they can build through the draft aside from a few later round picks we hit on.

Of course a QB needs help. I never once said they didn't but you have never understood that we have two years of full time data with Purdy. One year he was an MVP candidate WITH a Pro Bowl roster. The next year he was league average and we won 6 games with a less than ideal team around him.

Im a firm believer that an average QB can be elevated by elite playmakers and that there are very few QB who should be paid that top dollar because they can't elevate their team.

Brock is a good QB but I think he is the latter when it comes to that statement.

I'm pretty sure Shanahan can make it to the playoffs with Mac Jones at QB as long as he has that elite group of playmakers that he can scheme open.

How are all those teams who paid their average QBs doing? Miami, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Green Bay, Dallas, Arizona etc

Hell, Minnesota just let Darnold walk who was fantastic for them WITH A GROUP OF ELITE PLAYMAKERS and will turn the team over to basically a rookie QB. I can guarantee they won't have much of a drop in offensive production.

Man you're talking all over yourself…

Darnold was fantastic? He pissed himself in the two playoff level games when pressured just like everyone expected.

Now back to the whole weapons thing for Purdy…they haven't shown they can build through the draft? Deebo, Aiyuk and Jennings were all drafted by this regime, so was Kittle. That's a 50/50 split on early picks hitting vs those late picks you mention like they're not key players for us.

They learned some tough lessons on some early misses but have been pretty good at selecting WRs after Pettis.

There is also a clear exaggeration by you in what giving Brock a QB deal he's worth means for the team.

You just watched the Eagles win the SB after giving Jalen Hurts a "largest QB deal in history" just two years ago and we've talked many times in here why that headline didn't mean anything terrible for the Eagles. They were still able to pay their top 2 WRs, bring in key FAs who both got big raises this offseason.

You and some others act like if Purdy gets a comparable deal they will be stuck with just him and a JV roster around him. Thats a total overreaction.

Yes the team will have to ensure they don't have wasted drafts like 2022/2023 but those were extreme cases imo given the picks we had and the state of the roster.

The fact that you keep ignoring(clearly whether I say it 500 times or 1000) is Brock didn't show us a season where was playing with cheaper talent around him but with guys he had plenty of time to work with. There is a reason Jennings had almost his first 1k season. Outside of some key plays here and there and his ability to piss off the opposing team JJ wasn't anyone people hyped up.

Purdy elevated his game. Purdy elevated Aiyuk's game when he came in as well. Maybe it's not Mahomes, Lamar type stuff but he 100% elevated those guys with how he played in our offense.

Buys time in the pocket when protection is poor, looks to make big plays even when short ones are open, can make plays with his legs, does an excellent job of layering passes over defenders and throwing with terrific anticipation which gives WRs a better chance to get open and get YAC.

You brought up Drew Brees and Tom Brady making guys better around them…sure at one point Colston and Edelman were late round picks that nobody cared or knew about. Yet when their careers were done they had stellar careers and they certainly don't owe everything to the QBs cuz they put in the work and Edelman especially spent a ton of extra time grinding with Brady and getting his trust and his career took off.

Purdy was in a position last year that would've buried many QBs who are simply fluffed up by the talent around them. It wasn't the season we expected and doesn't stack up to his 2023 season but it's also far from a season where you should worry about him being unable to win games with a stable even if not elite roster around him.

You thinking Shanahan can make it with Mac Jones tells me you haven't watched Mac Jones in the NFL and clearly want to ignore the things Purdy has done in this offense when Kyle's playcalling has been keeping the east button in his pocket.

As for those other teams, those QBs are still on their teams which means they're not out looking for another QB. I'm pretty confident they want it that way.

Originally posted by Typecast:
Have you learned nothing. There is no "meeting in the middle". It's the player getting what they want.
Nobody is going to trade for Purdy without an extension already worked out or prioritized to be done before the season starts. Nobody is trading for him just to franchise tag him next year and eat a 45M cap hit.
It's not my analytics. It's Paraag's. Market data absolutely matters. You harping on "playing data" has nothing to do with our conversation besides moving the goalpost. But if you want to make that argument, the "playing data" (which encompases more than just raw stats) in conjunction with the "market data" would most likely show he's worth a top contract.

The cap hits can be manipulated on a market-resetting contract. We've discussed this before.

If it wasn't for the team lucking into Purdy and Purdy making the most of his opportunities, Kyle and Lynch might not even have jobs at this point. More importantly, the decision to pay Purdy is squarely on Paraag at this point. Paraag doesn't have to worry about his job security if he hands Purdy a market-resetting contract and it doesn't work out for whatever reason. Paraag is a made man to the Yorks. He's made them so much cash through their various business ventures beyond the 49ers.

I'm just not sure how you would conclude that Paraag's job security makes it more likely he'd give Purdy a market resetting contract.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I'm just not sure how you would conclude that Paraag's job security makes it more likely he'd give Purdy a market resetting contract.

I don't think he's wrong. Paraag is Jed's bestie. He can easily point the finger to the football guys here if somehow this doesn't work out.

"they believed in him and I just did what they said"

Coaches and GMs don't get many mulligans on QBs. They're already on their 3rd and Brock saved them from the biggest fail that would've ended many a HC/GM careers with that franchise.

Brock's play not only took away a TON of the sting on the Lance miss but also saved a nightmare 2022 draft class.

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't think he's wrong. Paraag is Jed's bestie. He can easily point the finger to the football guys here if somehow this doesn't work out.

"they believed in him and I just did what they said"

Coaches and GMs don't get many mulligans on QBs. They're already on their 3rd and Brock saved them from the biggest fail that would've ended many a HC/GM careers with that franchise.

Brock's play not only took away a TON of the sting on the Lance miss but also saved a nightmare 2022 draft class.

I understand the reason he provided. It just seems to me the reasoning in conjunction with the current state of the team would lead to the opposite conclusion.

He could drag a negotiation late into the offseason program and Kyle and Lynch will take the brunt of the public fallout and he'll remain untouchable.

What's the message coming from the team in terms of spending and 'emotional coach driven decision making' as far as the roster is concerned?

Look at Jed's comments that he cited above. Look at past negotiations.

You put these things together and drawing the conclusion that Paraag's going to be willing to give Purdy a market resetting contract would be one of the least likely conclusions.

Originally posted by genus49:
Man you're talking all over yourself…

Darnold was fantastic? He pissed himself in the two playoff level games when pressured just like everyone expected.

Now back to the whole weapons thing for Purdy…they haven't shown they can build through the draft? Deebo, Aiyuk and Jennings were all drafted by this regime, so was Kittle. That's a 50/50 split on early picks hitting vs those late picks you mention like they're not key players for us.

They learned some tough lessons on some early misses but have been pretty good at selecting WRs after Pettis.

There is also a clear exaggeration by you in what giving Brock a QB deal he's worth means for the team.

You just watched the Eagles win the SB after giving Jalen Hurts a "largest QB deal in history" just two years ago and we've talked many times in here why that headline didn't mean anything terrible for the Eagles. They were still able to pay their top 2 WRs, bring in key FAs who both got big raises this offseason.

You and some others act like if Purdy gets a comparable deal they will be stuck with just him and a JV roster around him. Thats a total overreaction.

Yes the team will have to ensure they don't have wasted drafts like 2022/2023 but those were extreme cases imo given the picks we had and the state of the roster.

The fact that you keep ignoring(clearly whether I say it 500 times or 1000) is Brock didn't show us a season where was playing with cheaper talent around him but with guys he had plenty of time to work with. There is a reason Jennings had almost his first 1k season. Outside of some key plays here and there and his ability to piss off the opposing team JJ wasn't anyone people hyped up.

Purdy elevated his game. Purdy elevated Aiyuk's game when he came in as well. Maybe it's not Mahomes, Lamar type stuff but he 100% elevated those guys with how he played in our offense.

Buys time in the pocket when protection is poor, looks to make big plays even when short ones are open, can make plays with his legs, does an excellent job of layering passes over defenders and throwing with terrific anticipation which gives WRs a better chance to get open and get YAC.

You brought up Drew Brees and Tom Brady making guys better around them…sure at one point Colston and Edelman were late round picks that nobody cared or knew about. Yet when their careers were done they had stellar careers and they certainly don't owe everything to the QBs cuz they put in the work and Edelman especially spent a ton of extra time grinding with Brady and getting his trust and his career took off.

Purdy was in a position last year that would've buried many QBs who are simply fluffed up by the talent around them. It wasn't the season we expected and doesn't stack up to his 2023 season but it's also far from a season where you should worry about him being unable to win games with a stable even if not elite roster around him.

You thinking Shanahan can make it with Mac Jones tells me you haven't watched Mac Jones in the NFL and clearly want to ignore the things Purdy has done in this offense when Kyle's playcalling has been keeping the east button in his pocket.

As for those other teams, those QBs are still on their teams which means they're not out looking for another QB. I'm pretty confident they want it that way.

Do you think Edelman and Colston would have the careers they did playing with other QBs not named Tom Brady and Drew Brees? Not a chance.

I'm also glad you brought up the Eagles. Yes, they paid Hurts but they also have a regime that is fantastic at drafting. Probably the best in the league. Ours on the other hand is one of the worst.

If you're going to pay your QB 50 mil you had better be a great team at drafting and bringing in cheap talent because otherwise you're left with a 50 mil QB who can't elevate their team like every QB I listed previously.

As for drafting WR's and having success. Well that's to be determined.

Good:
Aiuyk
Deebo
Jennings

Unknown:
Pearsall
Cowing

Busts:
Pettis
Hurd
Gray

Should we talk about their track record of drafting RBs and TE's too aside from Kittle and maybe Elijah Mitchell?

I have zero faith in this regime to add cheap playmakers Purdy. None.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Typecast:
Have you learned nothing. There is no "meeting in the middle". It's the player getting what they want.

The CBA doesn't allow the players to get what they want, though. That's kinda what it's there for. Sports like MLB baseball and yea, you are getting closer to that territory.

The CBA doesn't force players to cave to the team either.

Originally posted by random49er:
Given all the leverage the CBA gives the 49ers (under contract for $5M per his slotting, 2 franchise tag yrs available afterwards), if you truly think he's just going to get whatever he wants, then I just don't know what else to say to you at this point, lol. But that's certainly not what's going on with contracts.

Did the 49ers not have leverage in their previous negotiations? Aiyuk had his 5th year option + upto 3 tags available. Bosa had his 5th year option + upto 3 tags available. Baltimore exercised this franchise tag leverage you are obsessed with and how did that work out? Rather than paying him around 45M on the extension AAV, they ended up paying 52M. And since there was no existing contract remaining to spread the new spending on, that 52M extension AAV was also the total AAV and now the Ravens are being forced to give Lamar another top-of-the-market extension to address the huge cap hits in the back half.

You still never answered my pop quiz either. How did Dak get that "no-tag" clause? How did Dak get to a third tag?

Originally posted by random49er:
Heck....even the league MVP had to settle for $5M/Yr less than the previous record setter, Dak Prescott ($55M/Yr vs. $60M/Yr). Your top 10 pick solidifying the pick with an MVP Year is going to get as close to "getting what he wants" as possible. Still didn't happen.

Let's get back to basics. There are multiple types of AAV (average annual value). In your comment, you refer to EXTENSION AAV and TOTAL AAV. EXTENSION AAV is the average new money per added year to the existing contract. TOTAL AAV is the average total money per year on the total contract.

Dak Prescott's "$60M/Yr" is an EXTENSION AAV. The Cowboys added $240M in new cash and 4-years to Dak's $29M and 1-year remaining. Dak's total contract ended up being $269M over 5-years, which is a TOTAL AAV of $53.8M.

• EXTENSION AAV: $240M / 4 years = $60.0M per year.
• TOTAL AAV: $269M / 5 years = $53.8M per year.

Josh Allen's "$55M/Yr" is the TOTAL AAV. The Bills added $200.4M in new cash and 2-years to Allen's $129.6M and 4-years remaining. Allen's total contract ended up being $330M over 6-years, which is a TOTAL AAV of $55.0M.

• EXTENSION AAV: $200.4M / 2 years = $100.2M per year.
• TOTAL AAV: $330M / 6 years = $55.0M per year.

You are a "basic math" guy. Is this basic math? Or is comparing equal terms more of an intermediate level? What would the 49ers needs to extend Purdy at for Purdy to equal Allen? Allen's total contract cash is $330M over 6 years. Purdy has $5.3M and 1-year remaining on his rookie deal. The extension would need to add $324.7M in new cash.

• Extension cash: $330M - $5.3M = $324.7M.
• Extension years: 6 years - 1 year = 5 years.
• Extension AAV: $324.7M / 5 years = $64.94M per year.
• Actual AAV: $330M / 5 years = $55.0M per year.

Has anyone called for Purdy to be extended at $65M per year? The only person might be Lombardi, but he was talking about $65M being the upper range based on cap% of previous QB contracts.

A few more examples for you to walk through.

I mentioned Lamar above. The Ravens were not extending an existing contract. His rookie contract had just expired earlier that offseason and the Ravens opted to tag him. His contract ended up being $260M in new money and 5 new years and his total contract had $260M in total cash and 5 total years.

• EXTENSION AAV: $260M / 5 years = $52.0M per year.
• TOTAL AAV: $260M / 5 years = $52.0M per year.

Burrow, The Prince, and Love all have "$55M/Yr" contracts. For all three players, $55M is the EXTENSION AAV.

• Burrow
  • Rookie Contract Remaining: $35.0M / 2 years.
  • Contract Extension: $275M / 5 years.
  • Total Contract: $310M / 7 years.
  • EXTENSION AAV: $275M / 5 years = $55.0M per year.
  • TOTAL AAV: $310M / 7 years = $44.3M per year.
• The Prince
  • Rookie Contract Remaining: $31.3M / 2 years.
  • Contract Extension: $275M / 5 years.
  • Total Contract: $306.3M / 7 years.
  • EXTENSION AAV: $275M / 5 years = $55.0M per year.
  • TOTAL AAV: $306.3M / 7 years = $43.8M per year.
• Love
  • Rookie Contract Remaining: $11.0M / 1 years.
  • Contract Extension: $220M / 4 years.
  • Total Contract: $231M / 5 years.
  • EXTENSION AAV: $220M / 4 years = $55.0M per year.
  • TOTAL AAV: $231M / 5 years = $46.2M per year.

Originally posted by random49er:
You're more likely getting wide-eyed at the max value of them and not comprehending how they can drastically differ from what the player actually initially wanted. Just my guess.

Or... I understand what I'm talking about and you don't. The reason the Bills and Allen's agent top-lined "55M" for Allen is because "100.2M" looks absolutely insane compared to standard extension AAVs. But this is just AAVs. We can look at other aspects of contracts players are concerned with.

• Fully Gtd-At-Signing
  • Watson - $230.0M
  • Allen - $147.5M
  • Burrow - $146.5M
  • The Prince - $142.0M
  • Lamar - $135.0M
  • Herbert - $133.8M
  • Dak - $129.0M
• Practical Gtd
  • Allen - $250.0M
  • Dak - $231.0M
  • Watson - $230.0M
  • Burrow - $219.0M
  • Herbert - $218.7M
  • Mahomes (2023) - $208.1M
  • The Prince - $201M
• 1/2/3/4/5-year Accumulated Cash-Flow (sorted by 4-year cash-flow since most/all through 4 is practically gtd for the top contracts)
  • Allen - $58M / $113M / $166M / $220M / $272.5M (#9 / #2 / #2 / #1 / #1).
  • Dak - $81.25M / $129M / $169M / $214M / $269M (#1 / #1 / #1 / #2 / #2).
  • Mahomes (2023) - $56.8M / $101.3M / $151.3M / $208.1M / $260.1M (#11 / #6 / #4 / #3 / #3).
  • Lamar - $80M / $112.5M / $156M / $208M / $260M (#2 / #3 / #3 / #4 / #4).
  • Goff - $75.6M / $93.6M / $148.6M / $188.6M / $235.61M (#4 / #10 / #7 / #5 / #5).
  • Tua - $43.1M / $94.2M / $149.2M / $186.2M / $235.57M (#20 / #8 / #6 / #6 / #6).
  • Love - $79M / $92M / $143M / $186M / $231M (#3 / #10 / #9 / #7 / #7).

Originally posted by random49er:
But your perception of just what the "middle" is is just that,....your perception. You'd probably add both parties starting numbers together then divide by 2 and think that's the "middle." I can't hold a class on this forum on bargaining and leverage, but that term is alot more intricate than that.

Oxford Dictionary: middle (noun) - "the point or position at an equal distance from the sides, edges, or ends of something."

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Typecast:
Have you learned nothing. There is no "meeting in the middle". It's the player getting what they want.
Nobody is going to trade for Purdy without an extension already worked out or prioritized to be done before the season starts. Nobody is trading for him just to franchise tag him next year and eat a 45M cap hit.
It's not my analytics. It's Paraag's. Market data absolutely matters. You harping on "playing data" has nothing to do with our conversation besides moving the goalpost. But if you want to make that argument, the "playing data" (which encompases more than just raw stats) in conjunction with the "market data" would most likely show he's worth a top contract.

The cap hits can be manipulated on a market-resetting contract. We've discussed this before.

If it wasn't for the team lucking into Purdy and Purdy making the most of his opportunities, Kyle and Lynch might not even have jobs at this point. More importantly, the decision to pay Purdy is squarely on Paraag at this point. Paraag doesn't have to worry about his job security if he hands Purdy a market-resetting contract and it doesn't work out for whatever reason. Paraag is a made man to the Yorks. He's made them so much cash through their various business ventures beyond the 49ers.

I'm just not sure how you would conclude that Paraag's job security makes it more likely he'd give Purdy a market resetting contract.

I didn't say that. I said that Paraag isn't getting fired based on Purdy's performance. Paraag is too valuable of an asset to the Yorks and he's earned their trust. He's survived Donahue and Erickson, McCloughan and Nolan, Baalke and Singletary/Harbaugh/Tomsula/Kelly. He'll survive Lynch and Shanahan.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Do you think Edelman and Colston would have the careers they did playing with other QBs not named Tom Brady and Drew Brees? Not a chance.

I'm also glad you brought up the Eagles. Yes, they paid Hurts but they also have a regime that is fantastic at drafting. Probably the best in the league. Ours on the other hand is one of the worst.

If you're going to pay your QB 50 mil you had better be a great team at drafting and bringing in cheap talent because otherwise you're left with a 50 mil QB who can't elevate their team like every QB I listed previously.

As for drafting WR's and having success. Well that's to be determined.

Good:
Aiuyk
Deebo
Jennings

Unknown:
Pearsall
Cowing

Busts:
Pettis
Hurd
Gray

Should we talk about their track record of drafting RBs and TE's too aside from Kittle and maybe Elijah Mitchell?

I have zero faith in this regime to add cheap playmakers Purdy. None.

I'm going to start with the bold. This is a flat out lie and I don't think you're being genuine with that take.

We've had our share of misses(so has Howie btw - Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson, Brandon Aiyuk and Tee Higgins)

However we've also been tied with most all pros drafted since 2017 with the Ravens. We're literally one of the best drafting teams in that time frame. We've had poor drafts in 2021-2023 and had some bad luck on the injury front but acting like we haven't drafted well is just wrong.

And your WR evaluations are funny. Pettis was a miss and not cuz of the talent level. They clearly learned from his miss as well considering they've drafted nothing but dogs after.

Hurd looked well on his way to be an excellent pick but not much you can do when you can't stay healthy. People were raving about him in training camp and I still remember a poll about who was going to lead the team in receiving yards after the first preseason game where Hurd was easily the top vote getter by fans.

And yes you can bring up all the RB fails, just make sure to bring up guys like Breida, Mostert, Mason as well.

Clearly the moves they made in 2021-2023 were impacted by Lance. I believe both Sermon and Gray were drafted cuz of the Lance pick. TDP was an overreaction to not getting the 2nd and 1 vs the Rams.

While last years class still has to keep showing stuff to give real clarity on how they will be for us long term, I think you'd agree that class looks good so far. Just need to use similar way of making draft decisions in this class and hope to have equally or even better results.

Either way I think Purdy can run this offense at a very high level as long as he's got consistency with whomever we have around him. If those guys are elite then we know he can be special.

Originally posted by Typecast:
I didn't say that. I said that Paraag isn't getting fired based on Purdy's performance. Paraag is too valuable of an asset to the Yorks and he's earned their trust. He's survived Donahue and Erickson, McCloughan and Nolan, Baalke and Singletary/Harbaugh/Tomsula/Kelly. He'll survive Lynch and Shanahan.

I agree with this. He's not getting fired for any reason. He's unnaccountable. When you look at the totality of the team's situation right now
in conjunction with that fact and the team's immediate contract history, I see a market resetting contract as a highly unlikely outcome.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Typecast:
I didn't say that. I said that Paraag isn't getting fired based on Purdy's performance. Paraag is too valuable of an asset to the Yorks and he's earned their trust. He's survived Donahue and Erickson, McCloughan and Nolan, Baalke and Singletary/Harbaugh/Tomsula/Kelly. He'll survive Lynch and Shanahan.

I agree with this. He's not getting fired for any reason. He's unnaccountable. When you look at the totality of the team's situation right now
in conjunction with that fact and the team's immediate contract history, I see a market resetting contract as a highly unlikely outcome.

Yeah it's not gonna happen. I think at most we may see the "highest QB contract" headline based on AAV but the details will reveal a team friendly deal similar to Jalen Hurts with inflation for being 2 years later.

Originally posted by genus49:
Yeah it's not gonna happen. I think at most we may see the "highest QB contract" headline based on AAV but the details will reveal a team friendly deal similar to Jalen Hurts with inflation for being 2 years later.

I don't think we're going to see that either.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
Yeah it's not gonna happen. I think at most we may see the "highest QB contract" headline based on AAV but the details will reveal a team friendly deal similar to Jalen Hurts with inflation for being 2 years later.

I don't think we're going to see that either.

Probably not. I think at most we'd see that but if I'm putting money on it I don't see it happening either.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Typecast:
I didn't say that. I said that Paraag isn't getting fired based on Purdy's performance. Paraag is too valuable of an asset to the Yorks and he's earned their trust. He's survived Donahue and Erickson, McCloughan and Nolan, Baalke and Singletary/Harbaugh/Tomsula/Kelly. He'll survive Lynch and Shanahan.

I agree with this. He's not getting fired for any reason. He's unnaccountable. When you look at the totality of the team's situation right now
in conjunction with that fact and the team's immediate contract history, I see a market resetting contract as a highly unlikely outcome.

"market resetting" isn't strictly extension AAV. I don't think the 49ers would give him an extension that would top Allen's 330M/6 (e.g. 324.7M/5). I think they could definitely get him up to 305M/5 just to have the top line number of "61M AAV" that Purdy's critics would seethe over. That would get his total cash to 310.3M, which would be 2nd behind Allen (3rd if you include Mahomes' 2020 contract). They could reset the signing bonus (80M), gtd-at-signing (147.5M), practical gtd (250M), 4-year cash-flow (220M), etc.

Originally posted by Typecast:
"market resetting" isn't strictly extension AAV. I don't think the 49ers would give him an extension that would top Allen's 330M/6 (e.g. 324.7M/5). I think they could definitely get him up to 305M/5 just to have the top line number of "61M AAV" that Purdy's critics would seethe over. That would get his total cash to 310.3M, which would be 2nd behind Allen (3rd if you include Mahomes' 2020 contract). They could reset the signing bonus (80M), gtd-at-signing (147.5M), practical gtd (250M), 4-year cash-flow (220M).

Yea, lol. I'll be absolutely shocked if this happens.

This would fly in the face of everything we're seeing, hearing, and their past history outside of a handful of years power was leveraged away from them.

I agree with a lot of what you've said outside of this thread, and I respect your salary cap knowledge and what you bring to the discussion… but I think you're not connecting some of those arguments and understanding to this situation.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Typecast:
"market resetting" isn't strictly extension AAV. I don't think the 49ers would give him an extension that would top Allen's 330M/6 (e.g. 324.7M/5). I think they could definitely get him up to 305M/5 just to have the top line number of "61M AAV" that Purdy's critics would seethe over. That would get his total cash to 310.3M, which would be 2nd behind Allen (3rd if you include Mahomes' 2020 contract). They could reset the signing bonus (80M), gtd-at-signing (147.5M), practical gtd (250M), 4-year cash-flow (220M).

Yea, lol. I'll be absolutely shocked if this happens.

This would fly in the face of everything we're seeing, hearing, and their past history outside of a handful of years power was leveraged away from them.

I agree with a lot of what you've said outside of this thread, and I respect your salary cap knowledge and what you bring to the discussion… but I think you're not connecting some of those arguments and understanding to this situation.

I thought you were ignoring everything being said by Jed, Lynch, and Shanahan.