QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Typecast:
I thought you were ignoring everything being said by Jed, Lynch, and Shanahan.

I don't ignore what they say. I don't take it at face value and think it's mostly meaningless. You can get valuable information from what they say sometimes, when you combine it with actions and reporting. That is an unintended consequence of what they say, at least most of the time.

You cited their comments in the first place. Look at Jed's, whose right hand man is going to be making this decision with Purdy in your own words. There's arguably one substantive piece of what he said from which you could potentially glean real information and it's not in favor of any kind of market resetting deal in my opinion. And that would line up with the team's actions and reporting around the team.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Typecast:
I thought you were ignoring everything being said by Jed, Lynch, and Shanahan.

I don't ignore what they say. I don't take it at face value and think it's mostly meaningless. You can get valuable information from what they say sometimes, when you combine it with actions and reporting. That is an unintended consequence of what they say, at least most of the time.

You cited their comments in the first place. Look at Jed's, whose right hand man is going to be making this decision with Purdy in your own words. There's arguably one substantive piece of what he said from which you could potentially glean real information and it's not in favor of any kind of market resetting deal in my opinion. And that would line up with the team's actions and reporting around the team.

So you are ignoring the stuff you don't agree with and cherry picking the stuff you do agree with. Okay.

Originally posted by Typecast:
So you are ignoring the stuff you don't agree with and cherry picking the stuff you do agree with. Okay.

Point to what you think I'm ignoring because I'm not ignoring anything. I'm in agreement that they want to sign him which is the simplest conclusion you could draw from their comments.

Jed, arguably the most important person providing comments in this context (where his right hand, unaccountable, quasi GM is the decision maker) gave you an assessment of Purdy: that he is a top 10 QB with the things we provide around him. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for a market resetting type player.

If Kyle Shanahan was in charge of this negotiation, which you don't believe, a market resetting contract seems more plausible when you take his comments at face value (and I don't think you should at least in terms of contract details).

Originally posted by Typecast:
Oxford Dictionary: middle (noun) - "the point or position at an equal distance from the sides, edges, or ends of something."

Lol,....thanks for verifying.

you might be surprised to find out " middle ground" has its own standalone definition in the same book. You should check it out.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I don't ignore what they say. I don't take it at face value and think it's mostly meaningless. You can get valuable information from what they say sometimes, when you combine it with actions and reporting. That is an unintended consequence of what they say, at least most of the time.

You cited their comments in the first place. Look at Jed's, whose right hand man is going to be making this decision with Purdy in your own words. There's arguably one substantive piece of what he said from which you could potentially glean real information and it's not in favor of any kind of market resetting deal in my opinion. And that would line up with the team's actions and reporting around the team.

Yeah, you can't take everything they say at face value. When ownership/leadership talks - think of it like a player in the post game. They can't just say what they really think most of the time (for better or worse). You're not trying to create controversy or lose leverage etc.

also, sometimes it's what someone DOESN'T say that says a lot.

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Typecast:
I thought you were ignoring everything being said by Jed, Lynch, and Shanahan.

I don't ignore what they say. I don't take it at face value and think it's mostly meaningless. You can get valuable information from what they say sometimes, when you combine it with actions and reporting. That is an unintended consequence of what they say, at least most of the time.

You cited their comments in the first place. Look at Jed's, whose right hand man is going to be making this decision with Purdy in your own words. There's arguably one substantive piece of what he said from which you could potentially glean real information and it's not in favor of any kind of market resetting deal in my opinion. And that would line up with the team's actions and reporting around the team.

So you are ignoring the stuff you don't agree with and cherry picking the stuff you do agree with. Okay.

What he is saying is that taking one thing someone says, without adding in all the context of the situation - like reporting and their actions… is usually useless in and of itself.

this isn't unique to just sports talk - it's really just life. It's not a matter of if you like or dislike what they're saying. It's just taking all the variables of a situation and analyzing it, instead of taking one portion of it and coming to a conclusion.

I could tell you that I really think highly of someone and then treat them like s**t with my body language and try to avoid them. Talk bad about them to my close friends etc. when you take all of it into account - I don't actually think highly of the person regardless of what I told you.

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm going to start with the bold. This is a flat out lie and I don't think you're being genuine with that take.

We've had our share of misses(so has Howie btw - Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson, Brandon Aiyuk and Tee Higgins)

However we've also been tied with most all pros drafted since 2017 with the Ravens. We're literally one of the best drafting teams in that time frame. We've had poor drafts in 2021-2023 and had some bad luck on the injury front but acting like we haven't drafted well is just wrong.

And your WR evaluations are funny. Pettis was a miss and not cuz of the talent level. They clearly learned from his miss as well considering they've drafted nothing but dogs after.

Hurd looked well on his way to be an excellent pick but not much you can do when you can't stay healthy. People were raving about him in training camp and I still remember a poll about who was going to lead the team in receiving yards after the first preseason game where Hurd was easily the top vote getter by fans.

And yes you can bring up all the RB fails, just make sure to bring up guys like Breida, Mostert, Mason as well.

Clearly the moves they made in 2021-2023 were impacted by Lance. I believe both Sermon and Gray were drafted cuz of the Lance pick. TDP was an overreaction to not getting the 2nd and 1 vs the Rams.

While last years class still has to keep showing stuff to give real clarity on how they will be for us long term, I think you'd agree that class looks good so far. Just need to use similar way of making draft decisions in this class and hope to have equally or even better results.

Either way I think Purdy can run this offense at a very high level as long as he's got consistency with whomever we have around him. If those guys are elite then we know he can be special.

Finally something we can agree on :)

Can we all take a moment and be disgusted by the fact that G**** C*** still has a job despite knowing way less than all of us?

This dude got sourced in a clickbait article as proof that we're trading Brock Purdy to the Saints and my future father-in-law (who barely knows football) texted the article to me as if it's a done deal already

This is how Brock and his agent feel dealing with the 49ers FO.

the point is if their disagreeing over details like 5-10$mil per year or years an terms of the contract its not worth pushing up to the deadline an tanking our season again. bungling the t Williams,bosa, aiyuk negotiations were huge contributors to hurting our teams success those seasons. you'd think a team that just went through that multiple times would have learned. would have learned how beneficial and good it is to get your most important player signed sealed delivered way before TC so the team is SET and the media isn't dragging you down more an more everyday. we just went through this.

this FO hasn't learned. if they push this out until this summer again don't expect much good to happen this season. AGAIN.

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
the point is if their disagreeing over details like 5-10$mil per year or years an terms of the contract its not worth pushing up to the deadline an tanking our season again. bungling the t Williams,bosa, aiyuk negotiations were huge contributors to hurting our teams success those seasons. you'd think a team that just went through that multiple times would have learned. would have learned how beneficial and good it is to get your most important player signed sealed delivered way before TC so the team is SET and the media isn't dragging you down more an more everyday. we just went through this.

this FO hasn't learned. if they push this out until this summer again don't expect much good to happen this season. AGAIN.

I don't disagree with your point but it's still mid April. Not anywhere close to time to panic about this.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
the point is if their disagreeing over details like 5-10$mil per year or years an terms of the contract its not worth pushing up to the deadline an tanking our season again. bungling the t Williams,bosa, aiyuk negotiations were huge contributors to hurting our teams success those seasons. you'd think a team that just went through that multiple times would have learned. would have learned how beneficial and good it is to get your most important player signed sealed delivered way before TC so the team is SET and the media isn't dragging you down more an more everyday. we just went through this.

this FO hasn't learned. if they push this out until this summer again don't expect much good to happen this season. AGAIN.

I don't disagree with your point but it's still mid April. Not anywhere close to time to panic about this.

ya I'm probably saying this a bit early and I think its still possible to get a deal done "on-time". but I just don't like the way its looking.

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
ya I'm probably saying this a bit early and I think its still possible to get a deal done "on-time". but I just don't like the way its looking.

I think it's close - sometimes stuff like Fred warners extension and kittles extension can delay a big deal like Brocks. Trying to make sure all three fit and all three are happy, while having adequate room in the future years etc.

my guess is we will hear multiple extensions around the same time Brock's contract is announced.

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
the point is if their disagreeing over details like 5-10$mil per year or years an terms of the contract its not worth pushing up to the deadline an tanking our season again. bungling the t Williams,bosa, aiyuk negotiations were huge contributors to hurting our teams success those seasons. you'd think a team that just went through that multiple times would have learned. would have learned how beneficial and good it is to get your most important player signed sealed delivered way before TC so the team is SET and the media isn't dragging you down more an more everyday. we just went through this.

this FO hasn't learned. if they push this out until this summer again don't expect much good to happen this season. AGAIN.

I don't disagree with your point but it's still mid April. Not anywhere close to time to panic about this.

ya I'm probably saying this a bit early and I think its still possible to get a deal done "on-time". but I just don't like the way its looking.

I said it before and I'll say it again:

If we kick off for our first preseason game and Brock Purdy still isn't extended, I'm officially done with Paraag Marathe. Until then he has one more chance to redeem himself for me and that's it.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
the point is if their disagreeing over details like 5-10$mil per year or years an terms of the contract its not worth pushing up to the deadline an tanking our season again. bungling the t Williams,bosa, aiyuk negotiations were huge contributors to hurting our teams success those seasons. you'd think a team that just went through that multiple times would have learned. would have learned how beneficial and good it is to get your most important player signed sealed delivered way before TC so the team is SET and the media isn't dragging you down more an more everyday. we just went through this.

this FO hasn't learned. if they push this out until this summer again don't expect much good to happen this season. AGAIN.

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I don't disagree with your point but it's still mid April. Not anywhere close to time to panic about this.

ya I'm probably saying this a bit early and I think its still possible to get a deal done "on-time". but I just don't like the way its looking.

I said it before and I'll say it again:

If we kick off for our first preseason game and Brock Purdy still isn't extended, I'm officially done with Paraag Marathe. Until then he has one more chance to redeem himself for me and that's it.

THIS IS the situation I fear their headed for. and that I hope I'm wrong about.

unless they have some plan to trade the farm for mahomes that would somehow workout well over time then we have no other better option out there than Brock that we could acquire. no other attainable QB better positions us to win it all right now than BCB does. and we should pray to God they aren't considering trading up high in the draft again for a QB because we all know what happens when they do that