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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
brock just isn't worth what is being discussed. go back and watch 2024 and let me know if that guy is worth 50m. 2024 was a train wreck and he was on his rook deal which was a cheat code. bidding ourselves up on brock, paying more than any other club would pay for this player, it's a big reason the arrow is pointing down for the first time under shanny. we'll need to crush the upcoming draft.

Didn't we have this conversation before?

our personal record for conversation is we did the trey lance chicago game conversation about 1000 times. we got a ways to go here.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You get elite players through the draft. Your idea of building a contender with a bunch of FA money is a fantasy. Elite players rarely hit the market, you gotta draft them

A "bunch of FA money" is a misnomer. Those elite players you get in the draft eventually need a re-up. Dre Greenlaw anyone? This is circular.

Cap space and flexibility can be huge things even after a contender has been built. We'd likely have 2 or 3 more SBs ifrom the 90's f we had re-signed one high-priced FA.

Just excuses. The players we draft will have no problem getting paid because 55 mil will be chump change by the time they get their extensions
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Apr 18, 2025 at 3:41 PM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i was high on brock and 2024 was a rough season. he had nothing on his passes. he held the ball longer than needed at times, and wasn't that accurate. other teams are now camping the middle of the field, sitting on our in breaking routes that we love to throw with brock. i can't say i like our QB room that much, especially if we do some huge contract on brock. his arm is an issue. there's really not a lot he does well. he's unflappable and he's got short area quickness to make a guy miss. that's about his skill set. i wouldn't say he throws outside the numbers well, or downfield well or is a designed run threat or anything like that. i would have tried to get a more dynamic playmaker QB2 on roster to see how the O looks with that guy, if brock is not available or not performing. this O is run oriented, why not get a QB who can add to that, and have the arm to back off safeties. i would draw a line in the sand on the contract, and say we're not gonna dramatically outbid the rest of the nfl in terms of his deal.

lol dude you keep regurgitating the same garbage over and over and it just shows you're not actually watching the games you're telling others to watch.

His passes weren't as crisp later in the year after the shoulder injury but you're completely overblowing his arm limitations and you clearly can't make the simple logical jump why holding the ball longer when you don't have guys who are beating man coverage easily out there goes hand in hand.

Any media member worth a damn who isn't looking to make hot takes understands Brock is a very good QB and does some special things that fit this offense to a T.
Grant brought up the idea of the Titans trading for Brock. If we trade Brock and #11, for #1 overall and #35, and something next year, would be very tempting. Could then possibly trade back a few spots and get more picks off that. I know it will never happen, but you never know.
Originally posted by genus49:
lol dude you keep regurgitating the same garbage over and over and it just shows you're not actually watching the games you're telling others to watch.

His passes weren't as crisp later in the year after the shoulder injury but you're completely overblowing his arm limitations and you clearly can't make the simple logical jump why holding the ball longer when you don't have guys who are beating man coverage easily out there goes hand in hand.

Any media member worth a damn who isn't looking to make hot takes understands Brock is a very good QB and does some special things that fit this offense to a T.

i watched every snap of brock and all 49er games going back a long time. i've been a fan this is now 4 decades. i didn't say watch the games as a snide comment, as you appear to be doing. i was having a conversation, and someone mentioned brock is high in various stat metrics. my simple point is i prefer simply to watch the football live action or film after to judge players.
Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Grant brought up the idea of the Titans trading for Brock. If we trade Brock and #11, for #1 overall and #35, and something next year, would be very tempting. Could then possibly trade back a few spots and get more picks off that. I know it will never happen, but you never know.

Find it funny that Grant isn't a big fan of Purdy but would also hypothesize that he's effectively worth 2 1sts, a high 2nd, and an additional pick next year. Good lord how do people listen to that guy.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
As the cap continues to rise, 55 mil won't stop us from keeping the players we need. We paid players after Jimmys contract. The Lions and Eagles pay their elite players. If you don't think we can build a team paying a qb less than 20%, then you don't believe in Kyle

I believe Jimmy took up a chunk of the cap for 1 year....2018. Like a $37M hit or so (20.9% of the cap?). That'd equate to like a player hitting for $58M today. We weren't in the playoffs that year. Tom Brady was hauling in a good $15M less that year, and the Patriots won it all IIRC.

After that year, his cap hit was halved I believe. (In what would be the 10% range,...which is less than $30M today).

Went up to around 13-14% of the cap in 2020-2021.

Make of it what you wish,...but looking at all of those "record deal" years listed,...we went to the SB the year his cap hit had the lowest percentage (about 10.6%).

In 2023 when we went again, Brock accounted for 0.4% of the cap.
[ Edited by random49er on Apr 18, 2025 at 4:09 PM ]
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Just excuses. The players we draft will have no problem getting paid because 55 mil will be chump change by the time they get their extensions

Yes. Not having Deion that following year is why Dallas won it all with him instead. It's a fantastic excuse because that's how it really did play out.

That's why your "building the team" thing completely misses the mark. Having Deion didn't build our team, but it was the difference between getting to the SB and not getting to the SB.
I've got a question.

The off season starts Sunday.

Does Brock get done, show without a contract, or hold out?
Originally posted by BOI49er:
I've got a question.

The off season starts Sunday.

Does Brock get done, show without a contract, or hold out?

I think he would show up knowing him
Originally posted by BOI49er:
I've got a question.

The off season starts Sunday.

Does Brock get done, show without a contract, or hold out?

I'm guessing he signs shortly before TC at the latest, but I'm not really following this too closely tbh
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I assume you're talking faithful since I never said Brock is weak. Everyone knows his arm is mediocre. I pretty much said everything around him last season contributed to a down season. I'm glad you weren't my English teacher.

People searching specific terms and ish to prove points that were or weren't made before. English has been a big thing today.

lol I'm reading the response and wondering wth he read?
If the team truly believed he was him... They'd pay him top 5 qb money.. They DO not 🤷🏾‍♂?
Originally posted by BOI49er:
I've got a question.

The off season starts Sunday.

Does Brock get done, show without a contract, or hold out?

Yes
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by genus49:
lol dude you keep regurgitating the same garbage over and over and it just shows you're not actually watching the games you're telling others to watch.

His passes weren't as crisp later in the year after the shoulder injury but you're completely overblowing his arm limitations and you clearly can't make the simple logical jump why holding the ball longer when you don't have guys who are beating man coverage easily out there goes hand in hand.

Any media member worth a damn who isn't looking to make hot takes understands Brock is a very good QB and does some special things that fit this offense to a T.

i watched every snap of brock and all 49er games going back a long time. i've been a fan this is now 4 decades. i didn't say watch the games as a snide comment, as you appear to be doing. i was having a conversation, and someone mentioned brock is high in various stat metrics. my simple point is i prefer simply to watch the football live action or film after to judge players.

I don't mean this to be rude because there are simply levels to watching games.

There are people who watch the broadcast and call it a day and say they watched it.

There are people who watch that and then rewatch the game to review things they may have missed with the adrenaline of the live game.

There are people who rewatch looking at the All22 film to see the details that broadcasts don't always capture.

There are people who break down that All22 with expert analysis and deep understanding of the game.

So there are levels of "watch the game" and I know that the way I watch the game isn't even on the level of guys like Jonnydel or guys who know the game much better than me or guys who do it for a living.

I believe the majority of the people who watch this game with a fine toothed comb and the top level knowledge of X's and O's believe Brock is a franchise QB, even if he's one with limitations to his game. The only guys you'll find claiming Brock isn't worth paying are guys who make hot takes for TV/radio/podcasts or whatever.

You're choosing to use last year when so much went off the rails as a way to put Brock in the Jimmy category(ironic given your history btw) but fact is they are not comparable. Brock with his limitations and all is a much better QB than Jimmy and earlier in his career. Those arm limitations don't show up on tape like they did for Jimmy. The negatives people like to bring up about Brock are there because he's a 7th round pick and his strengths are brushed aside and given to Kyle, the skill players but there is nothing on tape that says Brock would be a disaster if the team gave him a contract his play has earned.

Yes his play dipped last year…most QBs would given those circumstances. He's still going into his 4th season and was top 10 in a lot of QB metrics and stats last year with all that craziness around him.

Everyone is so up in arms about what happens if he gets paid. How about the team draft well around him and we don't have a mountain of injuries at the top of the roster even if those guys aren't CMC, Kittle, Aiyuk level?

All players who are still on the team btw…

The way you're acting is like Brock was pissing his pants out there and kept turning over the ball left and right cuz he was seeing ghosts.
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