QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by random49er:
State the parts that are largely incorrect then.

1) limited time with great results
2) avg to below avg last year with a few less weapons
3) Teams with more film making more adjustments to his game
4) Small sample sizes garner less reasoning to commit long term.

World flat, 2 mouths, etc. Leave that stuff out and tell us what here doesn't make sense?

How about reading the post I made just before that one addressing just that?

No need, as I'm referring to your direct reply to my post again. What does your flat world and mouth stuff refer to in relation to the points made? I didn't at all address anything.

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Purdy only has 1 and 1/3 very good years when he had great weapons and teams didn't know him.
And then last year he had an average to below average year. So he's getting worse instead of better with more experience as teams learn his weaknesses and how to defend him.
This is too small a sample size to commit too much money to. Maybe teams are learning how to defend him and maybe he will not be good against these new Purdy-adjusted defenses.

???

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Just excuses. The players we draft will have no problem getting paid because 55 mil will be chump change by the time they get their extensions

Yes. Not having Deion that following year is why Dallas won it all with him instead. It's a fantastic excuse because that's how it really did play out.

That's why your "building the team" thing completely misses the mark. Having Deion didn't build our team, but it was the difference between getting to the SB and not getting to the SB.

Eagles got their elite player to put them over the top after paying their qb more than 20% of the cap. You're afraid of paying Brock less than that. Sounds like lack of belief in John and Kyle to me

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Trade Brock Purdy to the Titans for their second round pick and draft a quarterback @49ers.

— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) April 19, 2025

Happened to pop up on my feed. Not nearly as bats**t as what was suggested earlier.

So trade away our franchise QB before his 4th season in the NFL for a 2nd round pick.

Not shocked to see Grant suggest such stupidity but you treating it like something worth humoring is…

Guys like Will Levis and Paxton Lynch get drafted in the 1st/early 2nd (not to mention dudes like Trey going 3rd overall). Every 2022 redraft has Brock going in the 1st round

But an early 2nd is realistic for Brock lmao. That guy is truly off his rocker

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Eagles got their elite player to put them over the top after paying their qb more than 20% of the cap.

Another incorrect thing that'd go unchecked by the usuals if I didn't "call out" as they say,...but no.

Jalen Hurts after adjustments only accounted for 5.3% of their 2024 salary cap. Not a top 5 QB either. I'm seeing a theme here.

Sweet deal for a Lombardi trophy, right?

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Eagles got their elite player to put them over the top after paying their qb more than 20% of the cap.

Another incorrect thing that'd go unchecked by the usuals if I didn't "call out" as they say,...but no.

Jalen Hurts after adjustments only accounted for 5.3% of their 2024 salary cap. Not a top 5 QB either. I'm seeing a theme here.

Sweet deal for a Lombardi trophy, right?

Just speaking on his aav. That's all we've been talking about, and you like to dive into details to grab wins when it's not even whats being discussed lol

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Eagles got their elite player to put them over the top after paying their qb more than 20% of the cap.

Another incorrect thing that'd go unchecked by the usuals if I didn't "call out" as they say,...but no.

Jalen Hurts after adjustments only accounted for 5.3% of their 2024 salary cap. Not a top 5 QB either. I'm seeing a theme here.

Sweet deal for a Lombardi trophy, right?

Misleading stat. You can't apply one year cap number. If a four year contract and 2024 is as you say, 5.3%, it could adjust to 30.5 the next year ala Dak. Not saying that JH contract is doing this in 2025 just saying picking one year to show how much a QB affects cap is deceiving.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by random49er:
State the parts that are largely incorrect then.

1) limited time with great results
2) avg to below avg last year with a few less weapons
3) Teams with more film making more adjustments to his game
4) Small sample sizes garner less reasoning to commit long term.

World flat, 2 mouths, etc. Leave that stuff out and tell us what here doesn't make sense?

How about reading the post I made just before that one addressing just that?

No need, as I'm referring to your direct reply to my post again. What does your flat world and mouth stuff refer to in relation to the points made? I didn't at all address anything.

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Purdy only has 1 and 1/3 very good years when he had great weapons and teams didn't know him.
And then last year he had an average to below average year. So he's getting worse instead of better with more experience as teams learn his weaknesses and how to defend him.
This is too small a sample size to commit too much money to. Maybe teams are learning how to defend him and maybe he will not be good against these new Purdy-adjusted defenses.

???

If you're going to jump into other people's conversations then you should read what's being discussed.

You claimed he summed up things perfectly and then added your little "they're not listening though" like your takes are somehow correct.

If you read my post I mention why the idea that Brock hasn't shown enough to get paid is a silly take and the idea that he's being figured out is even worse.

Either of you two are welcome to show how teams have adjusted to Brock by getting more tape on him.

Originally posted by genus49:
So trade away our franchise QB before his 4th season in the NFL for a 2nd round pick.

Not shocked to see Grant suggest such stupidity but you treating it like something worth humoring is…

I specifically said in a later post I wouldn't do it.

I view this trade as a more realistic view of Purdy's trade value than saying he's worth 2 1sts, a high 2nd, and an additional pick in a future draft.

If you read back (and forward) a bit in the conversation the context for why I posted the tweet would be clear.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Misleading stat. You can't apply one year cap number. If a four year contract and 2024 is as you say, 5.3%, it could adjust to 30.5 the next year ala Dak. Not saying that JH contract is doing this in 2025 just saying picking one year to show how much a QB affects cap is deceiving.

No,...lol. It's a direct stat. You're getting too caught up in averages without looking at actual, specific numbers. You have it backwards and you're likely falling for the major headlines trap.

The OP talked about the salary cap,...that is a specific year!! Everyone on their roster accounted for a certain portion of their 2024 cap that they won the SB with.

So if the cap was $255M,... for Jalen it was:

$4.66M (Signing Bonus)
$1.25M (Base)
$7.78M (Option Bonus)

Add that up, divide, and that's about 5.3%!! This allowed alot of his teammates to house major allotments of cap money for themselves, resulting in a ring.

This AAV stuff,...if he's going to account for 25 to 30% of their cap in 2027, I dont care!!

What does that have to do with their 2024 players allowed under the cap, and the resulting SB win?

It doesn't get any more direct in telling you the true story than this.

Numbers fool people all of the time, though, so it's understandable.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Eagles got their elite player to put them over the top after paying their qb more than 20% of the cap.

Another incorrect thing that'd go unchecked by the usuals if I didn't "call out" as they say,...but no.

Jalen Hurts after adjustments only accounted for 5.3% of their 2024 salary cap. Not a top 5 QB either. I'm seeing a theme here.

Sweet deal for a Lombardi trophy, right?

We're so lucky to have you here to keep us all honest. Thank you.

I wonder if Eagles fans everywhere cried about the team signing him to the top contract in the league when he got his…after 10 or so less starts than Brock has with us. Especially since he only had success with a great roster around him and all.

Originally posted by genus49:
If you're going to jump into other people's conversations then you should read what's being discussed.

You claimed he summed up things perfectly and then added your little "they're not listening though" like your takes are somehow correct.

If you read my post I mention why the idea that Brock hasn't shown enough to get paid is a silly take and the idea that he's being figured out is even worse.

Either of you two are welcome to show how teams have adjusted to Brock by getting more tape on him.

I directly responded to 1 person I was in agreement with:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by maxsmart:
Purdy only has 1 and 1/3 very good years when he had great weapons and teams didn't know him.
And then last year he had an average to below average year. So he's getting worse instead of better with more experience as teams learn his weaknesses and how to defend him.
This is too small a sample size to commit too much money to.

Excellent summary,..and it has been stated here ad nauseum. They're not listening, though.

This isin't jumping in. You jumped in, actually.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
So trade away our franchise QB before his 4th season in the NFL for a 2nd round pick.

Not shocked to see Grant suggest such stupidity but you treating it like something worth humoring is…

I specifically said in a later post I wouldn't do it.

I view this trade as a more realistic view of Purdy's trade value than saying he's worth 2 1sts, a high 2nd, and an additional pick in a future draft.

If you read back (and forward) a bit in the conversation the context for why I posted the tweet would be clear.

Either way it's a dumb idea to push. We don't know Brocks actual trade value given he's worth more to us but we know trading a young QB with what Brock has done for one single 2nd round pick is a pathetic attempt by Grant for more interaction so he can put money in his pocket.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by genus49:
If you're going to jump into other people's conversations then you should read what's being discussed.

You claimed he summed up things perfectly and then added your little "they're not listening though" like your takes are somehow correct.

If you read my post I mention why the idea that Brock hasn't shown enough to get paid is a silly take and the idea that he's being figured out is even worse.

Either of you two are welcome to show how teams have adjusted to Brock by getting more tape on him.

I directly responded to 1 person I was in agreement with:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by maxsmart:
Purdy only has 1 and 1/3 very good years when he had great weapons and teams didn't know him.
And then last year he had an average to below average year. So he's getting worse instead of better with more experience as teams learn his weaknesses and how to defend him.
This is too small a sample size to commit too much money to.

Excellent summary,..and it has been stated here ad nauseum. They're not listening, though.

This isin't jumping in. You jumped in, actually.

You add nothing to this board but conflict and pettiness. I told you to read my response and you didn't feel the need to.

Every time I ask you to provide anything of substance or football related and you pivot to something trivial in nature.

If you want to address the inaccuracies in his post that you claimed were a great summary of what's happening then don't sit back and act superior like you've been telling us all the truth and we've been ignoring your superior intelligence

Originally posted by genus49:
You add nothing to this board but conflict and pettiness. I told you to read my response and you didn't feel the need to.

I just added some correction on Jalen's true cap hit for the 2024 season, which was nowhere near 20% and turned out great for Philly. It may not be adding to your viewpoint, but it is adding something.

I add things all the time.

I agreed heavily with a specific portion of another poster's point. I didn't mention you in it and you shouldn't be offended.

Originally posted by genus49:
Either way it's a dumb idea to push. We don't know Brocks actual trade value given he's worth more to us but we know trading a young QB with what Brock has done for one single 2nd round pick is a pathetic attempt by Grant for more interaction so he can put money in his pocket.

Agreed. The key part of your post being he's worth more to us than his trade value.

I still think you should read back because the initial post claimed Grant implied he was worth multiple firsts and change.

Grant Cohn like to stir the pot. If you follow him for anything other than comedy, you won't get good information or analysis.