QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Silky:
I want to know what throws Purdy "missed" during the game. I can recall the poorly thrown ball that should have been picked by a safety. The Kittle decision that was picked. And another Kittle miss that was a decent checkdown to CMC. What else am I missing? Why are so many people hard on his game this past week?

He didn't miss many throws from an accuracy standpoint. What he missed were the bigger opportunities for shorter safer routes. The one deep one he threw it was intercepted.

I think people are criticizing him more because it was the first time he showed some "cracks" in the armor, so to say.

I thought he played a very good game and also left a lot of room for improvement. I'm not concerned about him repeating the mistakes. I actually expect to see more big chunk plays now that he has had a chance to review his reps.

True. I wouldn't say folks are really criticizing him so much as recognizing he was much more conservative this game when the bigger plays were open in view. He was behind by 10 points and any mistake (TO) could affect the final outcome so I'm OK with it. Jimmy made a career out of that here as well (TOP + winning by 3 in the final minutes).

I'm with you. I'm not even remotely concerned. He's learning when to take his 1-2 shots a game. Kyle usually sets those up in a calculated fashion but there will be a couple more he can green light too as they materialize organically.

The kid is special.

When was the last time a rookie qb playing in his rookie year that doesn't look like a rookie...I can only think of Russell Wilson as the most recent, and that was 10 years ago. I thought of Kyler Murray but his offense isn't consistently in the pocket make the read progression type. Brock up and running in full with Kyle's offense and all the subtle details of the passing game.

We have something special in Brock that doesn't come along often.

Originally posted by pdc20:
https://thetouchdown.co.uk/2022-nfl-draft-prospect-report-brock-purdy/

Apart from the comparison with Jake Locker, it was a pretty good scouting report.

That is pretty spot on and I also don't like the Jake Locker comparison, horrible. My comparison would be Russell Wilson, quick feet, elusive and really good outside the pocket. I think the only thing is Purdy doesn't drive the ball downfield like Wilson can, well at least I haven't really seen it yet.

Originally posted by NCommand:
True. I wouldn't say folks are really criticizing him so much as recognizing he was much more conservative this game when the bigger plays were open in view. He was behind by 10 points and any mistake (TO) could affect the final outcome so I'm OK with it. Jimmy made a career out of that here as well (TOP + winning by 3 in the final minutes).

I'm with you. I'm not even remotely concerned. He's learning when to take his 1-2 shots a game. Kyle usually sets those up in a calculated fashion but there will be a couple more he can green light too as they materialize organically.

The kid is special.

I think he is special too. Raiders really came to play and I think it'll be a bigger benefit to us than we realize. We got a reality check right before the playoffs but one game before end of season, to work out the kinks 😈.

I'm trying to not get ahead of myself but it's exciting to think that we will essentially have the same offensive talent next year for our starting QB. If that is Brock, and he finishes the season how we all hope, then next season might be magical… 😶.

prayers for health!

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
When was the last time a rookie qb playing in his rookie year that doesn't look like a rookie...I can only think of Russell Wilson as the most recent, and that was 10 years ago. I thought of Kyler Murray but his offense isn't consistently in the pocket make the read progression type. Brock up and running in full with Kyle's offense and all the subtle details of the passing game.

We have something special in Brock that doesn't come along often.

After Russell Wilson, I'd say probably Luck. Then before Luck - Big Ben? Those are the only three in the last 20 years I know of.

luck and big Ben were first round picks and Russ a third? I think. So it's even more impressive that a 7th round rookie is doing it.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by pdc20:
https://thetouchdown.co.uk/2022-nfl-draft-prospect-report-brock-purdy/

Apart from the comparison with Jake Locker, it was a pretty good scouting report.

That is pretty spot on and I also don't like the Jake Locker comparison, horrible. My comparison would be Russell Wilson, quick feet, elusive and really good outside the pocket. I think the only thing is Purdy doesn't drive the ball downfield like Wilson can, well at least I haven't really seen it yet.

Jake locker and Wilson both had cannon arms. Locker was not close to as accurate as Purdy either. Honestly the only thing they have in common is being white. Horrible comparison.

I don't see Wilson at all either. Wilson is a better athlete with a much better arm. He was never a pure in the pocket guy in college though. Brock is a better timing based QB.

Are we comparing Brock to what he looked like coming out of the draft vs right now?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
When was the last time a rookie qb playing in his rookie year that doesn't look like a rookie...I can only think of Russell Wilson as the most recent, and that was 10 years ago. I thought of Kyler Murray but his offense isn't consistently in the pocket make the read progression type. Brock up and running in full with Kyle's offense and all the subtle details of the passing game.

We have something special in Brock that doesn't come along often.

After Russell Wilson, I'd say probably Luck. Then before Luck - Big Ben? Those are the only three in the last 20 years I know of.

luck and big Ben were first round picks and Russ a third? I think. So it's even more impressive that a 7th round rookie is doing it.

Dak Prescott was a 4th rd rookie and had almost 4K total yards 25/4 and completed 68% of his passes.

Herbert had over 30 passing TDs 4,300 yards completing 67% of his passes.

Cam Newton had a crazy first yr as well.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
When was the last time a rookie qb playing in his rookie year that doesn't look like a rookie...I can only think of Russell Wilson as the most recent, and that was 10 years ago. I thought of Kyler Murray but his offense isn't consistently in the pocket make the read progression type. Brock up and running in full with Kyle's offense and all the subtle details of the passing game.

We have something special in Brock that doesn't come along often.

After Russell Wilson, I'd say probably Luck. Then before Luck - Big Ben? Those are the only three in the last 20 years I know of.

luck and big Ben were first round picks and Russ a third? I think. So it's even more impressive that a 7th round rookie is doing it.

Dak Prescott was a 4th rd rookie and had almost 4K total yards 25/4 and completed 68% of his passes.

Herbert had over 30 passing TDs 4,300 yards completing 67% of his passes.

Cam Newton had a crazy first yr as well.

I forgot about those two. Dak has the most similar situation to Purdy because that cowboys team was stacked - still think romo got screwed. Lol Dak played really well but I remember still realizing that he was a rookie and that they're better off with romo.

herbert did have a stud rookie season.

I wasn't including Super mobile QBs who aren't pocket passers - because the way they play the game is so different. For example, I never ever thought cam Newton was an mvp player. If you look at his stats, he was very mediocre 1-1 TD/int rate in most games. He has like 4 games where he accumulated 75% of his passing touchdowns. Anyways - I'm not here to debate him, he had a really good rookie campaign.

it's just difficult to compare like Lamar and Purdy because Lamar had insane passing lanes because everyone is so worried about him rushing. So it's weird, like his stats are good but they were all wide open, for the most part. I like Lamar though - special special athlete.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
When was the last time a rookie qb playing in his rookie year that doesn't look like a rookie...I can only think of Russell Wilson as the most recent, and that was 10 years ago. I thought of Kyler Murray but his offense isn't consistently in the pocket make the read progression type. Brock up and running in full with Kyle's offense and all the subtle details of the passing game.

We have something special in Brock that doesn't come along often.

After Russell Wilson, I'd say probably Luck. Then before Luck - Big Ben? Those are the only three in the last 20 years I know of.

luck and big Ben were first round picks and Russ a third? I think. So it's even more impressive that a 7th round rookie is doing it.

Dak Prescott was a 4th rd rookie and had almost 4K total yards 25/4 and completed 68% of his passes.

Herbert had over 30 passing TDs 4,300 yards completing 67% of his passes.

Cam Newton had a crazy first yr as well.

I forgot about those two. Dak has the most similar situation to Purdy because that cowboys team was stacked - still think romo got screwed. Lol Dak played really well but I remember still realizing that he was a rookie and that they're better off with romo.

herbert did have a stud rookie season.

I wasn't including Super mobile QBs who aren't pocket passers - because the way they play the game is so different. For example, I never ever thought cam Newton was an mvp player. If you look at his stats, he was very mediocre 1-1 TD/int rate in most games. He has like 4 games where he accumulated 75% of his passing touchdowns. Anyways - I'm not here to debate him, he had a really good rookie campaign.

it's just difficult to compare like Lamar and Purdy because Lamar had insane passing lanes because everyone is so worried about him rushing. So it's weird, like his stats are good but they were all wide open, for the most part. I like Lamar though - special special athlete.

You could probably toss Mayfield in there as well. 13 games 3,800 27 TDs 14ints and completed 64% of his passes. The browns team wasn't amazing in 2018.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
When was the last time a rookie qb playing in his rookie year that doesn't look like a rookie...I can only think of Russell Wilson as the most recent, and that was 10 years ago. I thought of Kyler Murray but his offense isn't consistently in the pocket make the read progression type. Brock up and running in full with Kyle's offense and all the subtle details of the passing game.

We have something special in Brock that doesn't come along often.

After Russell Wilson, I'd say probably Luck. Then before Luck - Big Ben? Those are the only three in the last 20 years I know of.

luck and big Ben were first round picks and Russ a third? I think. So it's even more impressive that a 7th round rookie is doing it.

joe burrow bros

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
When was the last time a rookie qb playing in his rookie year that doesn't look like a rookie...I can only think of Russell Wilson as the most recent, and that was 10 years ago. I thought of Kyler Murray but his offense isn't consistently in the pocket make the read progression type. Brock up and running in full with Kyle's offense and all the subtle details of the passing game.

We have something special in Brock that doesn't come along often.

After Russell Wilson, I'd say probably Luck. Then before Luck - Big Ben? Those are the only three in the last 20 years I know of.

luck and big Ben were first round picks and Russ a third? I think. So it's even more impressive that a 7th round rookie is doing it.

Dak Prescott was a 4th rd rookie and had almost 4K total yards 25/4 and completed 68% of his passes.

Herbert had over 30 passing TDs 4,300 yards completing 67% of his passes.

Cam Newton had a crazy first yr as well.

I forgot about those two. Dak has the most similar situation to Purdy because that cowboys team was stacked - still think romo got screwed. Lol Dak played really well but I remember still realizing that he was a rookie and that they're better off with romo.

herbert did have a stud rookie season.

I wasn't including Super mobile QBs who aren't pocket passers - because the way they play the game is so different. For example, I never ever thought cam Newton was an mvp player. If you look at his stats, he was very mediocre 1-1 TD/int rate in most games. He has like 4 games where he accumulated 75% of his passing touchdowns. Anyways - I'm not here to debate him, he had a really good rookie campaign.

it's just difficult to compare like Lamar and Purdy because Lamar had insane passing lanes because everyone is so worried about him rushing. So it's weird, like his stats are good but they were all wide open, for the most part. I like Lamar though - special special athlete.

You could probably toss Mayfield in there as well. 13 games 3,800 27 TDs 14ints and completed 64% of his passes. The browns team wasn't amazing in 2018.

Well I wasn't saying that others haven't had really good rookie seasons - there has been a bunch of rookies over the last 8 years or so that have had great rookie ca
Campaigns but that is obviously due to players being more prepared for the league ever before.

I was really talking about football IQ. The way he seems the game and also understands all the rules. His poise as well.
Someone like mayfield, I never got the impression of "he looks like a vet".

everyone we mentioned above, still looked like rookies to me (even though they played very good), besides Big Ben, luck, and Purdy.

Big Ben wasn't nearly as good his first year as he would become but I watched just about every Steelers game that year because of my friends - he was so clutch and reliable during that 13-0 start. He finally lost in the AFCC

idk how I forgot about burrow! He's like my favorite non 49er! His senior year in college was the greatest I've ever seen.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
When was the last time a rookie qb playing in his rookie year that doesn't look like a rookie...I can only think of Russell Wilson as the most recent, and that was 10 years ago. I thought of Kyler Murray but his offense isn't consistently in the pocket make the read progression type. Brock up and running in full with Kyle's offense and all the subtle details of the passing game.

We have something special in Brock that doesn't come along often.

After Russell Wilson, I'd say probably Luck. Then before Luck - Big Ben? Those are the only three in the last 20 years I know of.

luck and big Ben were first round picks and Russ a third? I think. So it's even more impressive that a 7th round rookie is doing it.

I think there's a difference between a rookie who lit it up and a rookie who is leading their team on a playoff/superbowl run. In recent memory I remember Big Ben and Mark Sanchez taking their team to an AFFCG as rookies and both played great that season.

Cam Newton lit it up as a rookie but finished 6-10 as a team. There are plenty of instances of that over the years for rookie QBs.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
When was the last time a rookie qb playing in his rookie year that doesn't look like a rookie...I can only think of Russell Wilson as the most recent, and that was 10 years ago. I thought of Kyler Murray but his offense isn't consistently in the pocket make the read progression type. Brock up and running in full with Kyle's offense and all the subtle details of the passing game.

We have something special in Brock that doesn't come along often.

Brock feels miles ahead of those two as well when speaking to pocket play. Russell had a historic defense and running game while he learned the offense. Kyler already knew the offense from college. But neither relied on the pocket the way Brock is.

Brock really is navigating the pocket like a 10 year classic drop back QB who's had to rely on high level processing to excel.

....and then he's got the short area quickness to escape pressure off that and make off schedule plays.

We've found something special.

TBF, he couldn't be in any better position either but you still have to do it.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
This was a great listen if anyone has the time. It's Brock's Dad

That was great. Dad speaking it into existence.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by pdc20:
https://thetouchdown.co.uk/2022-nfl-draft-prospect-report-brock-purdy/

Apart from the comparison with Jake Locker, it was a pretty good scouting report.

That is pretty spot on and I also don't like the Jake Locker comparison, horrible. My comparison would be Russell Wilson, quick feet, elusive and really good outside the pocket. I think the only thing is Purdy doesn't drive the ball downfield like Wilson can, well at least I haven't really seen it yet.

Jake locker and Wilson both had cannon arms. Locker was not close to as accurate as Purdy either. Honestly the only thing they have in common is being white. Horrible comparison.

I don't see Wilson at all either. Wilson is a better athlete with a much better arm. He was never a pure in the pocket guy in college though. Brock is a better timing based QB.

Are we comparing Brock to what he looked like coming out of the draft vs right now?

Well fwiw he was comparing Purdy to Locker coming outta college. I was comparing Purdy to Wilson to what they look like in the NFL. But I also noted that Wilson has the stronger arm. But I compared elusiveness and ability to throw outside the pocket, which I thought Purdy showed some similarities. Other than that, Purdy doesn't have any closer comparisons.