QB Brock Purdy Thread

https://sports.yahoo.com/brock-purdys-unapologetic-swagger-encapsulated-174345750.html

I saw the ice water in his veins thing on TV. Funny Shanny could only chuckle after being mad it wasn't ran like he wanted

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
I recall one play where this happened (Brock checked down when there was an open deeper target) and it was because LVR ran a presnap disguise. My guess is Brock got a bit confused postsnap, and made the safe play and checked it down. I have no problem with that, on that play.

That's smart football. I love it. A lot of people miss big plays and then try to force it. I'm glad he is playing conservative when the time is right. It's all about balance

depends which play.. there were times he had plenty of time but locked on one option.. stop owing teammates and hit the open guy

He usually hits the open guy, just doesn't always hit the biggest play opportunity. I'm sure most plays you can say that there are better options, I see CMC cut the wrong way on big runs a few times. It happens - as long as he keeps putting up 30+ and growing, I'm all for it!

Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
Great call Kolohe! You knew it all along.

I was at the game for Brock Purdy's first NFL game vs the Dolphins and I was at this first NFL start vs the Bucs and Tom Brady. I was part of the crowd chanting, Purdy! Purdy! Purdy! Good times!

How cool:) I think during the Raiders game, ppl chanted Purdy loudly and it was on a 9ers possession lol shhh. The Niners crowd got pretty loud during Niners' possessions & I was like...shhh simmer down guys haha. I was above the 9ers tunnel at the Raiders game and we all chanted "Purdy!" as he came off the field and headed into the tunnel:). We chanted a lot of names as they came in & out lol. Kittle was really awesome, taking time to sign autos to kids. What a fun energy that guy has:). Good times all around.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
Nice Job Lynch. Still could of used someone like McKinley at Safety or Jobe to compete at the CB position. Career practice squad player with NO potential.

^^ this didn't age well lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
I recall one play where this happened (Brock checked down when there was an open deeper target) and it was because LVR ran a presnap disguise. My guess is Brock got a bit confused postsnap, and made the safe play and checked it down. I have no problem with that, on that play.

That's smart football. I love it. A lot of people miss big plays and then try to force it. I'm glad he is playing conservative when the time is right. It's all about balance

depends which play.. there were times he had plenty of time but locked on one option.. stop owing teammates and hit the open guy

Wait, now fans are OK with the conservative plays? You motherf**kers! LOL j/k

Go get 'em All. Keep 'em accountable.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
I recall one play where this happened (Brock checked down when there was an open deeper target) and it was because LVR ran a presnap disguise. My guess is Brock got a bit confused postsnap, and made the safe play and checked it down. I have no problem with that, on that play.

That's smart football. I love it. A lot of people miss big plays and then try to force it. I'm glad he is playing conservative when the time is right. It's all about balance

depends which play.. there were times he had plenty of time but locked on one option.. stop owing teammates and hit the open guy

Wait, now fans are OK with the conservative plays? You motherf**kers! LOL j/k

Go get 'em All. Keep 'em accountable.

It's okay to be conservative on some plays when the QB has shown he is capable of making big plays. If a QB rarely makes the big throw and shows a high frequency of resorting to the conservative play, that's a problem.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
I recall one play where this happened (Brock checked down when there was an open deeper target) and it was because LVR ran a presnap disguise. My guess is Brock got a bit confused postsnap, and made the safe play and checked it down. I have no problem with that, on that play.

That's smart football. I love it. A lot of people miss big plays and then try to force it. I'm glad he is playing conservative when the time is right. It's all about balance

depends which play.. there were times he had plenty of time but locked on one option.. stop owing teammates and hit the open guy

Wait, now fans are OK with the conservative plays? You motherf**kers! LOL j/k

Go get 'em All. Keep 'em accountable.

It's okay to be conservative on some plays when the QB has shown he is capable of making big plays. If a QB rarely makes the big throw and shows a high frequency of resorting to the conservative play, that's a problem.

I think in Jonnys offense breakdown it shows that he did learn from those early miss throws and was hitting them later in the game.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Wait, now fans are OK with the conservative plays? You motherf**kers! LOL j/k

Go get 'em All. Keep 'em accountable.

The definition of "conservative" infers that plays that are not conservative carry more risk.

Now of all the ones that post here,...not calling out any names but I'll just say that there are several here that rush in line @ any hint of a possible mistake in playcalls that didnt capitalize and instead may have put games in unnecessary danger.

They rush here and pile on Kyle nonstop.

Playing with more risk all the time isin't some magical formula in football to winning. In fact, statistically, it's exactly the opposite.

It's a coach potato formula if anything. Mention it over and over on a forum and I guess, to a few people, you sound like you'd be more successful playcaller? I dunno,...just dont get the rationale.

This "conservative" talk is just a case of that stuff where we're trying to paint everything with a broad brush so as to ignore what's really going on.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
I recall one play where this happened (Brock checked down when there was an open deeper target) and it was because LVR ran a presnap disguise. My guess is Brock got a bit confused postsnap, and made the safe play and checked it down. I have no problem with that, on that play.

That's smart football. I love it. A lot of people miss big plays and then try to force it. I'm glad he is playing conservative when the time is right. It's all about balance

depends which play.. there were times he had plenty of time but locked on one option.. stop owing teammates and hit the open guy

Wait, now fans are OK with the conservative plays? You motherf**kers! LOL j/k

Go get 'em All. Keep 'em accountable.

It's okay to be conservative on some plays when the QB has shown he is capable of making big plays. If a QB rarely makes the big throw and shows a high frequency of resorting to the conservative play, that's a problem.

For real. I honestly saw it more that he was down 10 and playing a bit more conservative to ensure we got back in it. One mistake and the game is over. And I don't think that's easy for a young gun. It showed a ton of maturity if you ask me.

Maholmes - 31 pts against the Raiders

Big Cock Brock - 37 pts against the Raiders

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
I recall one play where this happened (Brock checked down when there was an open deeper target) and it was because LVR ran a presnap disguise. My guess is Brock got a bit confused postsnap, and made the safe play and checked it down. I have no problem with that, on that play.

That's smart football. I love it. A lot of people miss big plays and then try to force it. I'm glad he is playing conservative when the time is right. It's all about balance

depends which play.. there were times he had plenty of time but locked on one option.. stop owing teammates and hit the open guy

Wait, now fans are OK with the conservative plays? You motherf**kers! LOL j/k

Go get 'em All. Keep 'em accountable.

I hate conservative play as a strategy, but there is a time and a place to take chances - when you're confused is not one of them. So I'm fine with that.

Originally posted by random49er:
The definition of "conservative" infers that plays that are not conservative carry more risk.

Now of all the ones that post here,...not calling out any names but I'll just say that there are several here that rush in line @ any hint of a possible mistake in playcalls that didnt capitalize and instead may have put games in unnecessary danger.

They rush here and pile on Kyle nonstop.

Playing with more risk all the time isin't some magical formula in football to winning. In fact, statistically, it's exactly the opposite.

It's a coach potato formula if anything. Mention it over and over on a forum and I guess, to a few people, you sound like you'd be more successful playcaller? I dunno,...just dont get the rationale.

This "conservative" talk is just a case of that stuff where we're trying to paint everything with a broad brush so as to ignore what's really going on.

The biggest issue I see with fans on here, and I'm sure this isn't unique to the 49ers fan base, is that a lot of people have a black and white mentality. If the person doesn't take a risk, they're conservative. If they do risk, they're turnover prone.

it's like when I was trying to tell someone that I don't consider Lance a mobile QB at this time. Being mobile is more than the ability to rush for yards - it's all encompassing of someone's ability to move/agile/quick/avoid sacks/extend plays etc. that doesn't mean I think Lance is a statue. I just think he needs to improve in that area if he wants to be considered "mobile" like Josh Allen or Herbert etc but some folks are like "you don't know what it means!" Or "oh so he's a statue?". It's weird. It's like all or nothing with a lot of folks on here - there is much more to a player than GREAT or TERRIBLE. Lol

also, I love it when I say two players have similar TRAITS, but then some people think that means I'm comparing everything about them and their style. I said do you think Lance is as mobile as Fields, Mahommes, Allen, etc. and the answer I was given was "I am just talking to talk if I think fields is the same as Lance". Lol it's unbelievable, sad, and hilarious all at the same time.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I hate conservative play as a strategy, but there is a time and a place to take chances - when you're confused is not one of them. So I'm fine with that.

Yea but what's really "conservative" is conjecture, though.

Just an errant example,...but if you've seen a guy complete a play 10x's out of 10 vs the best defense in the league in practice,....is it really a conservative playcall? The plays that don't work quite as much are really the ones that are "taking chances",...but that could even be running plays on the goal line.

It's conservative to you as a viewer at home, but not at all conservative to the team.

What is really conservative, and what is really aggressive? There really is no rule book for these terms that make it clear.

Again, as I see it, conservative refers to safety (less risk). There are 50 yard TD passes all the time that I guess "look" aggressive, but aren't risky at all to the ones pulling the string.

Originally posted by random49er:
Yea but what's really "conservative" is conjecture, though.

Just an errant example,...but if you've seen a guy complete a play 10x's out of 10 vs the best defense in the league in practice,....is it really a conservative playcall? The plays that don't work quite as much are really the ones that are "taking chances",...but that could even be running plays on the goal line.

It's conservative to you as a viewer at home, but not at all conservative to the team.

What is really conservative, and what is really aggressive? There really is no rule book for these terms that make it clear.

Again, as I see it, conservative refers to safety (less risk). There are 50 yard TD passes all the time that I guess "look" aggressive, but aren't risky at all to the ones pulling the string.

You bring up a good point regarding how most use the word "conservative" subjectively.

i can only speak for myself:
I my understanding is that a head coach/coordinator design their playbook (remove the idea of which players do they have - let's just say that every player is equal and we are strictly talking philosophy). If they're conservative, They'll design a lot of plays that mitigate risk of turnover or low completion routes and the run game is straightforward. They'll mainly stick to those. They really like to just constantly take what the defense gives you, but the plays aren't designed to force the ball down the field. Think Greg Roman or Singletary years, especially Jimmy Raye.

then you have conservative play or aggressive play by the QB. That can be done within an aggressive offense or conservative, because it depends a lot on how the qb reads the field and their comfort level. Alex smith once said "I don't even know what "make a play" even means". That tells you a lot about him, hence he rarely pushed the ball downfield. Constant check downs, never really challenged tight windows on a consistent basis. "Make a play" means a lot of things but it's as simple as "idc what the defense is doing, I'm getting that ball in the tight window because I want to force the ball down the field and get chunk plays".

i think Kyle can get conservative with his play calling depending on his trust in the qb and/or knows the qb won't take those tougher window/deeper throws. But his normal offense that he calls with jimmy and Brock, helps explain this.

Jimmy and Brock are really playing off the same plays - Brock is just more aggressive and confident than jimmy and goes for the potentially bigger play initially before anything else. Jimmy was never really one of those guys who forced the ball against a defense, outside of the saints game in 2019. I love jimmy and think he should be a starter in this league, but that's the difference when I'm watching these games.

When I said I'm okay with us taking the conservative check down if Purdy is confused, I'm just saying that id rather him live another play, go back to the sidelines, makes adjustments and hit those plays later. Instead of panicking and forcing it and potentially having a turnover.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
I recall one play where this happened (Brock checked down when there was an open deeper target) and it was because LVR ran a presnap disguise. My guess is Brock got a bit confused postsnap, and made the safe play and checked it down. I have no problem with that, on that play.

That's smart football. I love it. A lot of people miss big plays and then try to force it. I'm glad he is playing conservative when the time is right. It's all about balance

depends which play.. there were times he had plenty of time but locked on one option.. stop owing teammates and hit the open guy

Wait, now fans are OK with the conservative plays? You motherf**kers! LOL j/k

Go get 'em All. Keep 'em accountable.

I hate conservative play as a strategy, but there is a time and a place to take chances - when you're confused is not one of them. So I'm fine with that.

Same. And Kyle himself is great at dialing up a couple higher % calculated shots a game. But there are green areas within the game to take a shot or two or also, pull back a bit depending on how the game is going too.