QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Lawrence ain't ice in the vein calm as Brock . A little pressure and he missed an open guy that's 10yards open by 15

Having CMac as your outlet, Trent Williams as your tackle, and Shanahan as your playcaller probably helps. #JustSayin

No question. Those guys definitely give the rookie a chance to 'go back to center'. Can't ignore Brocks ability to deliver an accurate ball with free rusher coming for him either.

Originally posted by genus49:
Are you ok? You claim to have watched the Seattle game(I didn't say highlights, there weren't many in that game) and think that game doesn't show Lance to be mobile.

Then you read my post and see me claim "he's an elite level mobile player"

Care to highlight where I said he's an elite level mobile player?

Your whole discussion here has been he's not mobile period.

Yesterday, you did. I asked you if you thought he was on the level of Herbert and Allen and you said yes. Then ridiculed me for mentioning other QBs for some reason. Lol my question was if you thought Lance was as mobile as the other elite level mobility QBs and you said yes.

you may of meant that you think he has that ability but isn't on their level yet, I could of misunderstood.

you feel how you feel. I want to see him do it more often and consistently before I say he is any kind of qb, mobile included. You feel like he's proven that from the Seattle game. That's perfectly fine.

i also am concerned about what kind of mobility issue the surgically repaired ankle will bring, if any. I really don't know if it's that kind of injury.
will the ankle take a little bit of time for him to get comfy on and trust? Similar to an ACL injury?

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yesterday, you did. I asked you if you thought he was on the level of Herbert and Allen and you said yes. Then ridiculed me for mentioning other QBs for some reason. Lol my question was if you thought Lance was as mobile as the other elite level mobility QBs and you said yes.

you may of meant that you think he has that ability but isn't on their level yet, I could of misunderstood.

you feel how you feel. I want to see him do it more often and consistently before I say he is any kind of qb, mobile included. You feel like he's proven that from the Seattle game. That's perfectly fine.

i also am concerned about what kind of mobility issue the surgically repaired ankle will bring, if any. I really don't know if it's that kind of injury.
will the ankle take a little bit of time for him to get comfy on and trust? Similar to an ACL injury?

I ridiculed you for listing Allen and Herbert along with Lamar, Fields and Prime Russell Wilson because those guys ARE elite level mobile QBs.

Allen and to a lesser extent Herbert are mobile, not elite mobile QBs. And yes Trey is on their level talent wise.

He's not on Allen's level as a runner because he hasn't had enough experience in the NFL to learn the full game speed, to know when he should slide, dive, hurdle, etc…

But as I brought up in the Trey thread since that's really where this convo should go, I do think there is something to be said that he looked much better as a runner in that Seahawks game when the gameplan wasn't for him. When he just reacts - like on scramble drills, he appears to be much better. That's why I keep bringing up that game for you to refresh your memory on.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yesterday, you did. I asked you if you thought he was on the level of Herbert and Allen and you said yes. Then ridiculed me for mentioning other QBs for some reason. Lol my question was if you thought Lance was as mobile as the other elite level mobility QBs and you said yes.

you may of meant that you think he has that ability but isn't on their level yet, I could of misunderstood.

you feel how you feel. I want to see him do it more often and consistently before I say he is any kind of qb, mobile included. You feel like he's proven that from the Seattle game. That's perfectly fine.

i also am concerned about what kind of mobility issue the surgically repaired ankle will bring, if any. I really don't know if it's that kind of injury.
will the ankle take a little bit of time for him to get comfy on and trust? Similar to an ACL injury?

I ridiculed you for listing Allen and Herbert along with Lamar, Fields and Prime Russell Wilson because those guys ARE elite level mobile QBs.

Allen and to a lesser extent Herbert are mobile, not elite mobile QBs. And yes Trey is on their level talent wise.

He's not on Allen's level as a runner because he hasn't had enough experience in the NFL to learn the full game speed, to know when he should slide, dive, hurdle, etc…

But as I brought up in the Trey thread since that's really where this convo should go, I do think there is something to be said that he looked much better as a runner in that Seahawks game when the gameplan wasn't for him. When he just reacts - like on scramble drills, he appears to be much better. That's why I keep bringing up that game for you to refresh your memory on.

I think Allen easily is elite mobility.

im not saying that everyone has be to Lamar jackson, he's unique. But the reason they say a lot of people want a "mobile" qb is because they're difficult to get and it's a special skill set, that no matter your size/speed, doesn't mean you have it. He has to develop it.

yeah, we can take it the Trey thread. That's my bad.

well we saw that with Jimmy too in his first five games. Once he had to use the system - it was like he was thinking too much and looked like his natural instincts were gone. Maybe that is part of what Lance is struggling with - which would make sense.

Purdy is just one of those rare ones and it's been seem less.

After watching tonight's game, I'm very grateful to have Purdy and not those guys. Lawrence has all the potential in the world but I still think Purdy looks better than him.

Although im not saying I wouldn't trade. Lol

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yesterday, you did. I asked you if you thought he was on the level of Herbert and Allen and you said yes. Then ridiculed me for mentioning other QBs for some reason. Lol my question was if you thought Lance was as mobile as the other elite level mobility QBs and you said yes.

you may of meant that you think he has that ability but isn't on their level yet, I could of misunderstood.

you feel how you feel. I want to see him do it more often and consistently before I say he is any kind of qb, mobile included. You feel like he's proven that from the Seattle game. That's perfectly fine.

i also am concerned about what kind of mobility issue the surgically repaired ankle will bring, if any. I really don't know if it's that kind of injury.
will the ankle take a little bit of time for him to get comfy on and trust? Similar to an ACL injury?

I ridiculed you for listing Allen and Herbert along with Lamar, Fields and Prime Russell Wilson because those guys ARE elite level mobile QBs.

Allen and to a lesser extent Herbert are mobile, not elite mobile QBs. And yes Trey is on their level talent wise.

He's not on Allen's level as a runner because he hasn't had enough experience in the NFL to learn the full game speed, to know when he should slide, dive, hurdle, etc…

But as I brought up in the Trey thread since that's really where this convo should go, I do think there is something to be said that he looked much better as a runner in that Seahawks game when the gameplan wasn't for him. When he just reacts - like on scramble drills, he appears to be much better. That's why I keep bringing up that game for you to refresh your memory on.

I think Allen easily is elite mobility.

im not saying that everyone has be to Lamar jackson, he's unique. But the reason they say a lot of people want a "mobile" qb is because they're difficult to get and it's a special skill set, that no matter your size/speed, doesn't mean you have it. He has to develop it.

yeah, we can take it the Trey thread. That's my bad.

well we saw that with Jimmy too in his first five games. Once he had to use the system - it was like he was thinking too much and looked like his natural instincts were gone. Maybe that is part of what Lance is struggling with - which would make sense.

Purdy is just one of those rare ones and it's been seem less.

What people consider elite mobility is pretty subjective.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Agree.Almost every pass play in the nfl you can find a receiver who's "open" that the qb "missed". Yawn. Unless the analysis gets more sophisticated, we can't keep pointing at that like it's meaningful. Everyone loves Brock because he hits downfield chances, unlocking touchdowns from shanny's field goal cupboard. To me, it's likely that Purdy "missing" shots is due the coaching staff (i.e. shanny) preaching safety. He's got 4 picks in 5 games. Jimmy had 4 picks in 9 games. AFAIAC, that's fine. if he throws 1 pick every 5 quarters, we are strolling to the promised land.

The field goal cupboard was stocked by a guy with zero confidence in his own arm not being able to attack downfield with success mixed with an inability to consistently read defenses properly.

Luckily that has now changed.

That could be the right analysis for why we were a field goal scoring team.. Or it could be an artifact of risk averse coaching. Or a little bit of both. Purdy is throwing twice as many ints as Jimmy this season. That's with McCaffrey in the lineup. What to do? I wouldn't shut down the deep options imo.

Over the course of a season Jimmy was on pace for 25 TD's and 6 INT's this season. Purdy would be on pace for 34 TD's and 14 INT's. We have seen Jimmy throw 12 and 13 INT's and the season still be a success as far as playoff berths and deep playoff runs are concerned. We have never seen Jimmy throw more than 27 TD passes in a season though.

7 more passing TD's in a season is atleast 2 more wins and a possible #1 seed. Just think, when Jimmy took over this season, Brock was the primary backup since week 3. That means Kyle and John trusted Brock from very early on.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Lawrence ain't ice in the vein calm as Brock . A little pressure and he missed an open guy that's 10yards open by 15

Having CMac as your outlet, Trent Williams as your tackle, and Shanahan as your playcaller probably helps. #JustSayin

No question. Those guys definitely give the rookie a chance to 'go back to center'. Can't ignore Brocks ability to deliver an accurate ball with free rusher coming for him either.

Lawrence doesn´t have the team Brock has around him and certainly not the coaching staff. It´s hard to find a better playcaller than Kyle. It´s really impressive how much Lawrence has improved this year and the Jaguars are back in the POs. They were the worst team in the league last season. Still Purdy´s mobility has changed a lot of things for the Niners. He transforms a lot of negative plays in neutral plays or even positive plays with his athletiscm. And that´s because of him not the coaching staff or his teammates.

But I would say that for someone being the next big thing and perhaps the best prospect since Peyton, I was expecting more from Lawrence specially after his freshman season with Clemson. Burrow is way better for example and he´s not an athletic marvel and the Bengals were also a bad team. I like a lot Lawrence since College and think he has great future but he has a long way to go.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

#FTTB vs #BirdCityFootball ! Brock Purdy has made some big time "money down" throws since he has stepped up as QB1 for San Francisco. @gregcosell breaks down a tight window, between the numbers throw from Purdy on 3rd down!@DariusJButler | @PlaybooKFoley | @__bbell pic.twitter.com/jb6XcN0WQr

— NFL Matchup on ESPN (@NFLMatchup) January 8, 2023

I said it after the game. That was my favorite throw from him up to this point.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

#FTTB vs #BirdCityFootball ! Brock Purdy has made some big time "money down" throws since he has stepped up as QB1 for San Francisco. @gregcosell breaks down a tight window, between the numbers throw from Purdy on 3rd down!@DariusJButler | @PlaybooKFoley | @__bbell pic.twitter.com/jb6XcN0WQr

— NFL Matchup on ESPN (@NFLMatchup) January 8, 2023

I said it after the game. That was my favorite throw from him up to this point.

Same. I loved the breakdown on it as well so fans can understand the processing it took just to get there too.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

#FTTB vs #BirdCityFootball ! Brock Purdy has made some big time "money down" throws since he has stepped up as QB1 for San Francisco. @gregcosell breaks down a tight window, between the numbers throw from Purdy on 3rd down!@DariusJButler | @PlaybooKFoley | @__bbell pic.twitter.com/jb6XcN0WQr

— NFL Matchup on ESPN (@NFLMatchup) January 8, 2023

I said it after the game. That was my favorite throw from him up to this point.

Same. I loved the breakdown on it as well so fans can understand the processing it took just to get there too.

Yup. The brealdown was top notch. So was Purdy's ability to process the defense so quickly and to throw that ball with such accuracy and anticipation.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

#FTTB vs #BirdCityFootball ! Brock Purdy has made some big time "money down" throws since he has stepped up as QB1 for San Francisco. @gregcosell breaks down a tight window, between the numbers throw from Purdy on 3rd down!@DariusJButler | @PlaybooKFoley | @__bbell pic.twitter.com/jb6XcN0WQr

— NFL Matchup on ESPN (@NFLMatchup) January 8, 2023

I said it after the game. That was my favorite throw from him up to this point.

Same. I loved the breakdown on it as well so fans can understand the processing it took just to get there too.

Yup. The brealdown was top notch. So was Purdy's ability to process the defense so quickly and to throw that ball with such accuracy and anticipation.

Those kind of tight window throws, which Purdy seems to hit consistently- is something we haven't had since probably Garcia/Young. I love it.

we are going to see so many more awesome plays by our skill positions because of Brocks passing ability! Very excited! Let's hope he keeps it up and has a good game today