QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
college tape lol

The guy said he wanted to see this tendency to his game. If it's a rook then yea, going to include college tape and evaluations instead of pretending like those things just never happened.

We were discussing his tendency to do this in the NFL this season, hence the discussion of his 170 pass attempts. YOU decided to bring his college tape into the discussion.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
college tape lol

The guy said he wanted to see this tendency to his game. If it's a rook then yea, going to include college tape and evaluations instead of pretending like those things just never happened.

What if – and I'm just spitballin here – there is a middle ground between a tendency and something never ever happening? Crazy talk, I know. But that seems to be the disconnect between our two pals over the past 10 or more pages of this thread.

I'll chalk you up for being on team tendency with ring. Others may hold different opinions. .and that's ok.

I mean, it's pretty clear that's what I've been trying to get him to admit lol.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
college tape lol

The guy said he wanted to see this tendency to his game. If it's a rook then yea, going to include college tape and evaluations instead of pretending like those things just never happened.

What if – and I'm just spitballin here – there is a middle ground between a tendency and something never ever happening? Crazy talk, I know. But that seems to be the disconnect between our two pals over the past 10 or more pages of this thread.

I'll chalk you up for being on team tendency with ring. Others may hold different opinions. .and that's ok.

We are all in the early stages of the Brock Purdy era.. why can't we just take everything for what it is and just watch.. does it turn into something or it doesn't, but we all can look out for it and go from there. Why does there have to be such denial or getting upset cause of this take or any take.

He's still a rookie. All QBs leave the pocket early at least once in their career. we don't need to defend anyone this early. Just sit back and observe. its not that serious

So you mean it's too early to say that something is a tendency?

Originally posted by Furlow:
Dude you're having to go back to college tape to back up a claim about his current play. Which you yourself said he's cleaned up through coaching. Do you know which side of this argument you're on?

"Having to" -- Not having to do anything. And it looks like you skipped or missed the recent stuff posted and discussed as well. Like it or not,...he's had a tendency to needlessly take off sometimes. You can't erase the past like it never happened.

If we were talking any other player's tendencies I'd look @ their last several years as well.

You're getting kind of lost at sea here, however, which is common.

I'm not making an argument of anything, yet you are falling into the trap of thinking I am.

You pretended like no one's ever said or thought this stuff but Rings,...but it's literally littered all over the net. Open and shut case, in that regard. It's not "one play." You wanted evidence? Well watch what you wish for, because now you have it from multiple sources and in multiple formats. This is over.

As good as Purdy was with his running, Iowa State coaches felt like he could improve on his game if he cut down on it some this season.

Iowa State coach Matt Campbell wanted Purdy to stay in the pocket more and look downfield before giving up so quickly on plays. It was something that Purdy took to heart during Iowa State's first game of the season.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/2019/09/10/iowa-state-cyclones-brock-purdy-matt-campbell-northern-iowa-panthers-big-12-conference/2272477001/

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
college tape lol

The guy said he wanted to see this tendency to his game. If it's a rook then yea, going to include college tape and evaluations instead of pretending like those things just never happened.

What if – and I'm just spitballin here – there is a middle ground between a tendency and something never ever happening? Crazy talk, I know. But that seems to be the disconnect between our two pals over the past 10 or more pages of this thread.

I'll chalk you up for being on team tendency with ring. Others may hold different opinions. .and that's ok.

When I said he had a tendency I meant it in the sense that he has shown an inclination to sometimes unnecessarily bailout of a clean pocket. Not that this was something he was doing constantly (like 10% of all passing plays which would be absurd) which is apparently the threshold for some to use the word tendency. I was saying that in the context of why I thought the author of the article that was being discussed might be saying Purdy had happy feet. He showed it in college enough for it to appear on his scouting reports and so it stood out to me the couple of times that I saw him doing it in the pros. That's all. I stated then that it was a mild criticism and not a massive problem. If I had known I needed to have every clip of every time I remembered seeing it ready to go, I probably wouldn't have bothered.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Dude you're having to go back to college tape to back up a claim about his current play. Which you yourself said he's cleaned up through coaching. Do you know which side of this argument you're on?

"Having to" -- Not having to do anything. And it looks like you skipped or missed the recent stuff posted and discussed as well. Like it or not,...he's had a tendency to needlessly take off sometimes. You can't erase the past like it never happened.

If we were talking any other player's tendencies I'd look @ their last several years as well.

You're getting kind of lost at sea here, however, which is common.

I'm not making an argument of anything, yet you are falling into the trap of thinking I am.

You pretended like no one's ever said or thought this stuff but Rings,...but it's literally littered all over the net. Open and shut case, in that regard. It's not "one play." You wanted evidence? Well watch what you wish for, because now you have it from multiple sources and in multiple formats. This is over.

As good as Purdy was with his running, Iowa State coaches felt like he could improve on his game if he cut down on it some this season.

Iowa State coach Matt Campbell wanted Purdy to stay in the pocket more and look downfield before giving up so quickly on plays. It was something that Purdy took to heart during Iowa State's first game of the season.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/2019/09/10/iowa-state-cyclones-brock-purdy-matt-campbell-northern-iowa-panthers-big-12-conference/2272477001/

The only "recent stuff" posted so far is the TD to Kittle and that ridiculous article about footwork and mechanics, which has nothing to do with a tendency to leave the pocket. Focus. Just need three more examples from this season.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
college tape lol

The guy said he wanted to see this tendency to his game. If it's a rook then yea, going to include college tape and evaluations instead of pretending like those things just never happened.

What if – and I'm just spitballin here – there is a middle ground between a tendency and something never ever happening? Crazy talk, I know. But that seems to be the disconnect between our two pals over the past 10 or more pages of this thread.

I'll chalk you up for being on team tendency with ring. Others may hold different opinions. .and that's ok.

When I said he had a tendency I meant it in the sense that he has shown an inclination to sometimes unnecessarily bailout of a clean pocket. Not that this was something he was doing constantly (like 10% of all passing plays which would be absurd) which is apparently the threshold for some to use the word tendency. I was saying that in the context of why I thought the author of the article that was being discussed might be saying Purdy had happy feet. He showed it in college enough for it to appear on his scouting reports and so it stood out to me the couple of times that I saw him doing it in the pros. That's all. I stated then that it was a mild criticism and not a massive problem. If I had known I needed to have every clip of every time I remembered seeing it ready to go, I probably wouldn't have bothered.

10% = constantly now? Dictionary.com is your friend.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
college tape lol

The guy said he wanted to see this tendency to his game. If it's a rook then yea, going to include college tape and evaluations instead of pretending like those things just never happened.

What if – and I'm just spitballin here – there is a middle ground between a tendency and something never ever happening? Crazy talk, I know. But that seems to be the disconnect between our two pals over the past 10 or more pages of this thread.

I'll chalk you up for being on team tendency with ring. Others may hold different opinions. .and that's ok.

We are all in the early stages of the Brock Purdy era.. why can't we just take everything for what it is and just watch.. does it turn into something or it doesn't, but we all can look out for it and go from there. Why does there have to be such denial or getting upset cause of this take or any take.

He's still a rookie. All QBs leave the pocket early at least once in their career. we don't need to defend anyone this early. Just sit back and observe. its not that serious

So you mean it's too early to say that something is a tendency?

pretty much.. too early to deny it won't become a habit also.. the only thing thats trending is the way he can overcome adversity when Drops, sacks, Defense giving up points Etc Etc happen. If he keeps this up then any tendency that is not favorable doesn't become an issue. too early to be upset about any take

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
college tape lol

The guy said he wanted to see this tendency to his game. If it's a rook then yea, going to include college tape and evaluations instead of pretending like those things just never happened.

What if – and I'm just spitballin here – there is a middle ground between a tendency and something never ever happening? Crazy talk, I know. But that seems to be the disconnect between our two pals over the past 10 or more pages of this thread.

I'll chalk you up for being on team tendency with ring. Others may hold different opinions. .and that's ok.

When I said he had a tendency I meant it in the sense that he has shown an inclination to sometimes unnecessarily bailout of a clean pocket. Not that this was something he was doing constantly (like 10% of all passing plays which would be absurd) which is apparently the threshold for some to use the word tendency. I was saying that in the context of why I thought the author of the article that was being discussed might be saying Purdy had happy feet. He showed it in college enough for it to appear on his scouting reports and so it stood out to me the couple of times that I saw him doing it in the pros. That's all. I stated then that it was a mild criticism and not a massive problem. If I had known I needed to have every clip of every time I remembered seeing it ready to go, I probably wouldn't have bothered.

10% = constantly now? Dictionary.com is your friend.

If a QB was being sacked on 10% of all passing plays would you give someone s**t for saying they were being sacked constantly? If a QB was throwing interceptions on 10% of all passing plays would you have a problem with someone saying they were throwing interceptions constantly? 10% can be a lot, especially when the circumstances that would even demonstrate this particular inclination wouldn't happen on 100% of passing plays.

BCB's success is tearing the fan base apart.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
BCB's success is tearing the fan base apart.

This is why we can't have nice things.

nah. It's just a long week.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
college tape lol

The guy said he wanted to see this tendency to his game. If it's a rook then yea, going to include college tape and evaluations instead of pretending like those things just never happened.

What if – and I'm just spitballin here – there is a middle ground between a tendency and something never ever happening? Crazy talk, I know. But that seems to be the disconnect between our two pals over the past 10 or more pages of this thread.

I'll chalk you up for being on team tendency with ring. Others may hold different opinions. .and that's ok.

We are all in the early stages of the Brock Purdy era.. why can't we just take everything for what it is and just watch.. does it turn into something or it doesn't, but we all can look out for it and go from there. Why does there have to be such denial or getting upset cause of this take or any take.

He's still a rookie. All QBs leave the pocket early at least once in their career. we don't need to defend anyone this early. Just sit back and observe. its not that serious

So you mean it's too early to say that something is a tendency?

pretty much.. too early to deny it won't become a habit also.. the only thing thats trending is the way he can overcome adversity when Drops, sacks, Defense giving up points Etc Etc happen. If he keeps this up then any tendency that is not favorable doesn't become an issue. too early to be upset about any take

Cool, because I didn't say that it couldn't become an issue. And I'm not upset at all, just looking to use dictionary.com definitions for words so that we all have at least that standard to be held to.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
college tape lol

The guy said he wanted to see this tendency to his game. If it's a rook then yea, going to include college tape and evaluations instead of pretending like those things just never happened.

What if – and I'm just spitballin here – there is a middle ground between a tendency and something never ever happening? Crazy talk, I know. But that seems to be the disconnect between our two pals over the past 10 or more pages of this thread.

I'll chalk you up for being on team tendency with ring. Others may hold different opinions. .and that's ok.

When I said he had a tendency I meant it in the sense that he has shown an inclination to sometimes unnecessarily bailout of a clean pocket. Not that this was something he was doing constantly (like 10% of all passing plays which would be absurd) which is apparently the threshold for some to use the word tendency. I was saying that in the context of why I thought the author of the article that was being discussed might be saying Purdy had happy feet. He showed it in college enough for it to appear on his scouting reports and so it stood out to me the couple of times that I saw him doing it in the pros. That's all. I stated then that it was a mild criticism and not a massive problem. If I had known I needed to have every clip of every time I remembered seeing it ready to go, I probably wouldn't have bothered.

10% = constantly now? Dictionary.com is your friend.

If a QB was being sacked on 10% of all passing plays would you give someone s**t for saying they were being sacked constantly? If a QB was throwing interceptions on 10% of all passing plays would you have a problem with someone saying they were throwing interceptions constantly? 10% can be a lot, especially when the circumstances that would even demonstrate this particular inclination wouldn't happen on 100% of passing plays.

Tendency is relative. Purdy does not have a tendency to leave the pocket early, as evidenced by only 1 such alleged example out of 170 attempts.

Moving along...

It's so annoying that people think the offensive rookie of the year award should go to players who had average-above average season all because they played more games? None of the other rookies did ANYTHING unique or special. Purdy has in limited time while also having all the pressure and expectations of the world for this on his shoulders.

i know it's not that many games but this kid came in and has been special, unique, and outright exponentially better than any other rookie.

seahawks RB - barely breaks 1k yards as the primary running back on a playoff team? What's special and unique about that. You should do that?

garret wilson & Olave - both had good seasons, no doubt, but they're the PRIMARY options for their offense. So they barely broke 1k yards? What's great about that?

purdy - leads the league in every passing statistic besides yards since he became a starter. Hasn't lost a game (something only one other plays has done through five games - really he's won 6). Second best QBR ever for first five starts. THATS AMAZING. THAT DESERVES AN AWARD.

awards shouldn't be given to anyone who has a mediocre season, especially as the primary option for their offense.

just my opinion. I don't think he will win it but it just bugs the s**t out of me that everyone's excuse is how many games?

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's so annoying that people think the offensive rookie of the year award should go to players who had average-above average season all because they played more games? None of the other rookies did ANYTHING unique or special. Purdy has in limited time while also having all the pressure and expectations of the world for this on his shoulders.

i know it's not that many games but this kid came in and has been special, unique, and outright exponentially better than any other rookie.

seahawks RB - barely breaks 1k yards as the primary running back on a playoff team? What's special and unique about that. You should do that?

garret wilson & Olave - both had good seasons, no doubt, but they're the PRIMARY options for their offense. So they barely broke 1k yards? What's great about that?

purdy - leads the league in every passing statistic besides yards since he became a starter. Hasn't lost a game (something only one other plays has done through five games - really he's won 6). Second best QBR ever for first five starts. THATS AMAZING. THAT DESERVES AN AWARD.

awards shouldn't be given to anyone who has a mediocre season, especially as the primary option for their offense.

just my opinion. I don't think he will win it but it just bugs the s**t out of me that everyone's excuse is how many games?

My inside source says he was DQd for having happy feet and poor mechanics.