QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's so annoying that people think the offensive rookie of the year award should go to players who had average-above average season all because they played more games? None of the other rookies did ANYTHING unique or special. Purdy has in limited time while also having all the pressure and expectations of the world for this on his shoulders.

i know it's not that many games but this kid came in and has been special, unique, and outright exponentially better than any other rookie.

seahawks RB - barely breaks 1k yards as the primary running back on a playoff team? What's special and unique about that. You should do that?

garret wilson & Olave - both had good seasons, no doubt, but they're the PRIMARY options for their offense. So they barely broke 1k yards? What's great about that?

purdy - leads the league in every passing statistic besides yards since he became a starter. Hasn't lost a game (something only one other plays has done through five games - really he's won 6). Second best QBR ever for first five starts. THATS AMAZING. THAT DESERVES AN AWARD.

awards shouldn't be given to anyone who has a mediocre season, especially as the primary option for their offense.

just my opinion. I don't think he will win it but it just bugs the s**t out of me that everyone's excuse is how many games?

My inside source says he was DQd for having happy feet and poor mechanics.

It's like, all over the internet, man.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Moving along...

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's so annoying that people think the offensive rookie of the year award should go to players who had average-above average season all because they played more games? None of the other rookies did ANYTHING unique or special. Purdy has in limited time while also having all the pressure and expectations of the world for this on his shoulders.

i know it's not that many games but this kid came in and has been special, unique, and outright exponentially better than any other rookie.

seahawks RB - barely breaks 1k yards as the primary running back on a playoff team? What's special and unique about that. You should do that?

garret wilson & Olave - both had good seasons, no doubt, but they're the PRIMARY options for their offense. So they barely broke 1k yards? What's great about that?

purdy - leads the league in every passing statistic besides yards since he became a starter. Hasn't lost a game (something only one other plays has done through five games - really he's won 6). Second best QBR ever for first five starts. THATS AMAZING. THAT DESERVES AN AWARD.

awards shouldn't be given to anyone who has a mediocre season, especially as the primary option for their offense.

just my opinion. I don't think he will win it but it just bugs the s**t out of me that everyone's excuse is how many games?

My inside source says he was DQd for having happy feet and poor mechanics.

It's like, all over the internet, man.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Moving along...

Lol I love the feedback to my post and hearing your guys perspective! Very enlightening! Hahaha

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
https://www.outkick.com/49ers-quarterback-brock-purdy-backs-up-his-test-results/

Among all of NFL players and specifically the quarterbacks, Purdy tested in the top 3 percent. His results rate with the likes of Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, and, in a particularly important way, with Drew Brees.

Hmm https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2941963-report-justin-fields-scored-similarly-to-joe-burrow-on-nfl-draft-cognitive-test.amp.html

You seem hellbent on putting Purdy down in any way possible. Not sure what the motivation is?

Not putting him down, just wish there was a list of scores available to help know what to make of this test. It's one thing to say he scored near the top with guys like Josh Allen, Burrow, and Brees, but who are the other guys at the top? Where did guys like Mahomes rank (if they took it at all).

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Not putting him down, just wish there was a list of scores available to help know what to make of this test. It's one thing to say he scored near the top with guys like Josh Allen, Burrow, and Brees, but who are the other guys at the top? Where did guys like Mahomes rank (if they took it at all).

My guess would be that the company doesn't have the ability to publicly release these test scores. They said they work with specific teams - so it's not a league wide thing.

there are also a few tests like this. I remember fields took one and apparently scored really high - which I still really like him. He is just on a god awful talentless offense. I was really hoping we would draft him that year.

i don't necessarily care how he scored in comparison to others because they're all just such different players - I just like that he scored really well on a these kind of tests in general. (Apparently). Lol

Im sure there are some players that scored well but didn't work out in the league, which makes sense. There is much more than mental acuity to play really good football.

This test doesn't tell us anything in and of itself, you just take this info and add context with him as a player - it helps you evaluate them but none of it is a perfect science yet.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
BCB's success is tearing the fan base apart.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
https://www.outkick.com/49ers-quarterback-brock-purdy-backs-up-his-test-results/

Among all of NFL players and specifically the quarterbacks, Purdy tested in the top 3 percent. His results rate with the likes of Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, and, in a particularly important way, with Drew Brees.

Hmm https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2941963-report-justin-fields-scored-similarly-to-joe-burrow-on-nfl-draft-cognitive-test.amp.html

You seem hellbent on putting Purdy down in any way possible. Not sure what the motivation is?

Not putting him down, just wish there was a list of scores available to help know what to make of this test. It's one thing to say he scored near the top with guys like Josh Allen, Burrow, and Brees, but who are the other guys at the top? Where did guys like Mahomes rank (if they took it at all).

All other things being equal, do you think it helps a QB to be more or less intelligent? No one said that the test was the ONLY aspect that makes a QB good. So you inserting Fields in this discussion to undermine the importance of Purdy's intelligence is yet another example of passive aggressive negativity.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Not putting him down, just wish there was a list of scores available to help know what to make of this test. It's one thing to say he scored near the top with guys like Josh Allen, Burrow, and Brees, but who are the other guys at the top? Where did guys like Mahomes rank (if they took it at all).

My guess would be that the company doesn't have the ability to publicly release these test scores. They said they work with specific teams - so it's not a league wide thing.

there are also a few tests like this. I remember fields took one and apparently scored really high - which I still really like him. He is just on a god awful talentless offense. I was really hoping we would draft him that year.

i don't necessarily care how he scored in comparison to others because they're all just such different players - I just like that he scored really well on a these kind of tests in general. (Apparently). Lol

Im sure there are some players that scored well but didn't work out in the league, which makes sense. There is much more than mental acuity to play really good football.

This test doesn't tell us anything in and of itself, you just take this info and add context with him as a player - it helps you evaluate them but none of it is a perfect science yet.

I mean the article even says what you're describing here. "There is, of course, Ally's caveat that "there's a lot more to it than just the test results." Size, strength and arm talent can't be ignored." It makes no sense to bring up Fields to downplay Purdy's intelligence. Not to mention I agree that Fields doesn't even look bad. I was hoping for him as well.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by cortana49:
Ok, I'm not a great observational fan of QB skills, but I DO have eyes. I read this snippet in an article...

It's never easy playing quarterback in the NFL, but Purdy might as well have the softest landing pad to work with. The 49ers are so good that Purdy's evident limitations (happy feet and poor mechanics, hello!) in the pocket probably won't come back to bite them against the Seahawks.

and was like … really? That's NOT what I see at all. Someone tell me this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. (full article here)

Thanks.

To be more specific, his comment about the "happy feet and poor mechanics" had me doing the Jordan laugh.

I don't think it can be discounted how good of a situation Purdy has been put into with guys like CMC, Deebo (though he's mostly been absent during Purdy's tenure), Kittle, Aiyuk, Kyle's offense etc. He's been helped tremendously by that as any QB would be. That said, I'm not sure what the dude is talking about in terms of Purdy's mechanics or happy feet. They seem at worst fine, and actually seem pretty good. He has a very natural throwing motion and seems comfortable throwing from different arm angles. He does have a tendency to break the pocket too soon, but he is a rookie, so not that surprising.

No he doesn't.

You're right. He's perfect.

Not perfect. He just doesn't have a tendency to break the pocket too soon. Like, at all.

Independent of the result of this play (which was a great throw to Kittle) do you think it was necessary for him to abandon the pocket on this play?

This was very important to break out: I'll enlighten you.

the way the defense was set up on that play - the defense had great angles in the routes if he stayed in the pocket.
since he missed his first read - he immediately rolled out to be able to get away from the angles the defenders were doing.

i watched a breakdown on this play specifically and I thought it was pretty cool

if he stayed in the pocket - the throw would of been right over the defender and have to be dropped into the back corner of the end zone. Very very difficult throw and catch - also risky. So his instincts and reaction to the play was actually incredible.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Brock Purdy is PFT's choice for offensive rookie of the year. https://t.co/gJbAwPDyhL

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) January 10, 2023

😍😍 this is all I want for Valentine's Day this year 😍😍

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Not putting him down, just wish there was a list of scores available to help know what to make of this test. It's one thing to say he scored near the top with guys like Josh Allen, Burrow, and Brees, but who are the other guys at the top? Where did guys like Mahomes rank (if they took it at all).

My guess would be that the company doesn't have the ability to publicly release these test scores. They said they work with specific teams - so it's not a league wide thing.

there are also a few tests like this. I remember fields took one and apparently scored really high - which I still really like him. He is just on a god awful talentless offense. I was really hoping we would draft him that year.

i don't necessarily care how he scored in comparison to others because they're all just such different players - I just like that he scored really well on a these kind of tests in general. (Apparently). Lol

Im sure there are some players that scored well but didn't work out in the league, which makes sense. There is much more than mental acuity to play really good football.

This test doesn't tell us anything in and of itself, you just take this info and add context with him as a player - it helps you evaluate them but none of it is a perfect science yet.

I mean the article even says what you're describing here. "There is, of course, Ally's caveat that "there's a lot more to it than just the test results." Size, strength and arm talent can't be ignored." It makes no sense to bring up Fields to downplay Purdy's intelligence. Not to mention I agree that Fields doesn't even look bad. I was hoping for him as well.

If he was trying to knock Purdy by saying Fields is dumb - yet scored on the test, then that's ridiculous. It's clear that fields belongs at this level. I was pretty bummed we didn't take him - I thought he was the perfect fit for kyles system.

i always wondered what his analysis on Fields was.

Apparently the athletic is dropping a big time article tomorrow about the 49ers that features Bosa, CMC, Trent Williams etc. supposedly it's going to be awesome. I'm excited

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
https://www.outkick.com/49ers-quarterback-brock-purdy-backs-up-his-test-results/

Among all of NFL players and specifically the quarterbacks, Purdy tested in the top 3 percent. His results rate with the likes of Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, and, in a particularly important way, with Drew Brees.

Hmm https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2941963-report-justin-fields-scored-similarly-to-joe-burrow-on-nfl-draft-cognitive-test.amp.html

You seem hellbent on putting Purdy down in any way possible. Not sure what the motivation is?

Not putting him down, just wish there was a list of scores available to help know what to make of this test. It's one thing to say he scored near the top with guys like Josh Allen, Burrow, and Brees, but who are the other guys at the top? Where did guys like Mahomes rank (if they took it at all).

All other things being equal, do you think it helps a QB to be more or less intelligent? No one said that the test was the ONLY aspect that makes a QB good. So you inserting Fields in this discussion to undermine the importance of Purdy's intelligence is yet another example of passive aggressive negativity.

Man, you sure read a lot of paragraphs out just those 4 sentences. The Fields article is the only other one that talks about a specific player that did well on the test that I could find. The article reads like a sales pitch for the company, so I'd like to know how well it actually corelates without just taking their word for it. Not that it matters. It obviously doesn't hurt that Purdy did well on it, but I'm not sure how impressive it is or isn't with just 3 names to compare it against.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Not putting him down, just wish there was a list of scores available to help know what to make of this test. It's one thing to say he scored near the top with guys like Josh Allen, Burrow, and Brees, but who are the other guys at the top? Where did guys like Mahomes rank (if they took it at all).

My guess would be that the company doesn't have the ability to publicly release these test scores. They said they work with specific teams - so it's not a league wide thing.

there are also a few tests like this. I remember fields took one and apparently scored really high - which I still really like him. He is just on a god awful talentless offense. I was really hoping we would draft him that year.

i don't necessarily care how he scored in comparison to others because they're all just such different players - I just like that he scored really well on a these kind of tests in general. (Apparently). Lol

Im sure there are some players that scored well but didn't work out in the league, which makes sense. There is much more than mental acuity to play really good football.

This test doesn't tell us anything in and of itself, you just take this info and add context with him as a player - it helps you evaluate them but none of it is a perfect science yet.

I mean the article even says what you're describing here. "There is, of course, Ally's caveat that "there's a lot more to it than just the test results." Size, strength and arm talent can't be ignored." It makes no sense to bring up Fields to downplay Purdy's intelligence. Not to mention I agree that Fields doesn't even look bad. I was hoping for him as well.

If he was trying to knock Purdy by saying Fields is dumb - yet scored on the test, then that's ridiculous. It's clear that fields belongs at this level. I was pretty bummed we didn't take him - I thought he was the perfect fit for kyles system.

i always wondered what his analysis on Fields was.

I wanted us to draft Fields.

But by a lot of advanced metrics, Fields has been the worst passer in the league these last two years, even worse than Zach Wilson. Dynamic runner though.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by cortana49:
Ok, I'm not a great observational fan of QB skills, but I DO have eyes. I read this snippet in an article...

It's never easy playing quarterback in the NFL, but Purdy might as well have the softest landing pad to work with. The 49ers are so good that Purdy's evident limitations (happy feet and poor mechanics, hello!) in the pocket probably won't come back to bite them against the Seahawks.

and was like … really? That's NOT what I see at all. Someone tell me this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. (full article here)

Thanks.

To be more specific, his comment about the "happy feet and poor mechanics" had me doing the Jordan laugh.

I don't think it can be discounted how good of a situation Purdy has been put into with guys like CMC, Deebo (though he's mostly been absent during Purdy's tenure), Kittle, Aiyuk, Kyle's offense etc. He's been helped tremendously by that as any QB would be. That said, I'm not sure what the dude is talking about in terms of Purdy's mechanics or happy feet. They seem at worst fine, and actually seem pretty good. He has a very natural throwing motion and seems comfortable throwing from different arm angles. He does have a tendency to break the pocket too soon, but he is a rookie, so not that surprising.

No he doesn't.

You're right. He's perfect.

Not perfect. He just doesn't have a tendency to break the pocket too soon. Like, at all.

Independent of the result of this play (which was a great throw to Kittle) do you think it was necessary for him to abandon the pocket on this play?

This was very important to break out: I'll enlighten you.

the way the defense was set up on that play - the defense had great angles in the routes if he stayed in the pocket.
since he missed his first read - he immediately rolled out to be able to get away from the angles the defenders were doing.

i watched a breakdown on this play specifically and I thought it was pretty cool

if he stayed in the pocket - the throw would of been right over the defender and have to be dropped into the back corner of the end zone. Very very difficult throw and catch - also risky. So his instincts and reaction to the play was actually incredible.

A difficult pass like this?


I don't think his reasoning for rolling out is that complex, he just started feeling the clock ticking and his inclination is to roll out to buy himself more time even though he didn't need to that time. No biggie, we've seen guys like Mahomes bail themselves out constantly late in the play by just making the higher difficultly throw.

He definitely abandoned some clean pockets and on the Kittle td against the Raiders even Kyle mentioned that he didn't like the early bail even though it ended up in a score.

Its OK though. Expecting perfection is unrealistic. The issue does arise if many of his bailouts result in loss of yards like against the cards. Can't afford to take these sacks in tight games or them taking us out of fg range. So far it hasn't been a pattern, but he definitely has propensity to spin out and he can get caught doing that.