QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Every QB that has played with this iteration of the offense (CMC, Kittle, Aiyuk, Deebo, etc.) has had instant success.

That's a sample size of two.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

So the highest rated passer in the NFL since he came in is 33rd best? I mean really lol.

Steven Ruiz didn't actually watch Purdy play beyond a few highlights here and there.

I don't know, he was on a 49ers podcast (the one with Chris Biderman I think?) just the other day and did a pretty thorough breakdown of what he liked and didn't like from his first 5 games.

Originally posted by thl408:
Oh he was on a podcast. Wow! Well in that case he does know what he's taking about. You should have said that in the first place.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:
Oh he was on a podcast. Wow! Well in that case he does know what he's taking about. You should have said that in the first place.

Grant Cohn-

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

Purdy isn't the 33rd best QB. I'm going to say it right now: He is better than Jimmy. He's a straight up better QB.

The thing these rankings tend to get wrong is forgetting how important just finding the open guy is. Burdy is ahead of Jimmy at that, and he's ahead of many QBs at that which are ranked above him in this list.

These "outsiders" aren't familiar enough with Shanahan's scheme to know when the QB plays above the scheme. For example, Kittle's second TD against the Seahawks. That play was designed for McCaffrey, and McCaffrey was opened, and Jimmy is throwing that 100% of the time. But the Seahawks busted the coverage, and Brock had the VISION to see it, and and nerve to pull the trigger.

I don't know. I give the outsiders the benefit of the doubt, because they're not invested in the result. I think Purdy is better than 33, but I haven't watched film of every other QB in the league and I'm not impartial. I'll defer to those that have watched every QB and don't have a specific rooting interest to put things into context.

They ranked him 10 spots below Jimmy G and below Colt McCoy. I'm sorry, but that's just a bad ranking.

UNLESS the reason they have him low is because they believe his play will DIP. If they believe he will turn into a pumpkin, that's different. If the ranking is based on how he's played so far, then it's a laughable ranking of him.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's adjusting for supporting cast and play caller. Purdy has the best supporting cast of any QB in the league and it's hard to separate what he's doing from that. The only QB you can really directly compare him to is Jimmy, and he's played better than Jimmy, so I'd put him ahead of Jimmy, but I haven't watched enough of everyone else to be able to say where he compares league wide.

Actually, it's not hard to separate a QB's play from the talent - unless you don't watch them play. A good read is a good read. A bad read is a bad read. An accurate throw is an accurate throw. An inaccurate throw is an inaccurate throw. A 30 yard screen pass is different than throwing a 30 yard Post. It's actually not that difficult to see the difference.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

Purdy isn't the 33rd best QB. I'm going to say it right now: He is better than Jimmy. He's a straight up better QB.

The thing these rankings tend to get wrong is forgetting how important just finding the open guy is. Burdy is ahead of Jimmy at that, and he's ahead of many QBs at that which are ranked above him in this list.

These "outsiders" aren't familiar enough with Shanahan's scheme to know when the QB plays above the scheme. For example, Kittle's second TD against the Seahawks. That play was designed for McCaffrey, and McCaffrey was opened, and Jimmy is throwing that 100% of the time. But the Seahawks busted the coverage, and Brock had the VISION to see it, and and nerve to pull the trigger.

I don't know. I give the outsiders the benefit of the doubt, because they're not invested in the result. I think Purdy is better than 33, but I haven't watched film of every other QB in the league and I'm not impartial. I'll defer to those that have watched every QB and don't have a specific rooting interest to put things into context.

They ranked him 10 spots below Jimmy G and below Colt McCoy. I'm sorry, but that's just a bad ranking.

UNLESS the reason they have him low is because they believe his play will DIP. If they believe he will turn into a pumpkin, that's different. If the ranking is based on how he's played so far, then it's a laughable ranking of him.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's adjusting for supporting cast and play caller. Purdy has the best supporting cast of any QB in the league and it's hard to separate what he's doing from that. The only QB you can really directly compare him to is Jimmy, and he's played better than Jimmy, so I'd put him ahead of Jimmy, but I haven't watched enough of everyone else to be able to say where he compares league wide.

Actually, it's not hard to separate a QB's play from the talent - unless you don't watch them play. A good read is a good read. A bad read is a bad read. An accurate throw is an accurate throw. An inaccurate throw is an inaccurate throw. A 30 yard screen pass is different than throwing a 30 yard Post. It's actually not that difficult to see the difference.

Yet, all of those things are impacted by the supporting cast. If the QB is constantly under pressure or there's nobody open or if the WRs run the wrong routes, etc. is it easy to evaluate that QB vs. one that is on a well coached team that doesn't have those problems? If it is, then why do NFL teams repeatedly fail at evaluating QBs?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

So the highest rated passer in the NFL since he came in is 33rd best? I mean really lol.

Steven Ruiz didn't actually watch Purdy play beyond a few highlights here and there.

I don't know, he was on a 49ers podcast (the one with Chris Biderman I think?) just the other day and did a pretty thorough breakdown of what he liked and didn't like from his first 5 games.

Oh he was on a podcast. Wow! Well in that case he does know what he's taking about. You should have said that in the first place.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

So the highest rated passer in the NFL since he came in is 33rd best? I mean really lol.

Steven Ruiz didn't actually watch Purdy play beyond a few highlights here and there.

I don't know, he was on a 49ers podcast (the one with Chris Biderman I think?) just the other day and did a pretty thorough breakdown of what he liked and didn't like from his first 5 games.

Oh he was on a podcast. Wow! Well in that case he does know what he's taking about. You should have said that in the first place.

I'm sorry, but the assertion was that he had never watched him play and so that was what I was responding to. You knew that though.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

Purdy isn't the 33rd best QB. I'm going to say it right now: He is better than Jimmy. He's a straight up better QB.

The thing these rankings tend to get wrong is forgetting how important just finding the open guy is. Burdy is ahead of Jimmy at that, and he's ahead of many QBs at that which are ranked above him in this list.

These "outsiders" aren't familiar enough with Shanahan's scheme to know when the QB plays above the scheme. For example, Kittle's second TD against the Seahawks. That play was designed for McCaffrey, and McCaffrey was opened, and Jimmy is throwing that 100% of the time. But the Seahawks busted the coverage, and Brock had the VISION to see it, and and nerve to pull the trigger.

I don't know. I give the outsiders the benefit of the doubt, because they're not invested in the result. I think Purdy is better than 33, but I haven't watched film of every other QB in the league and I'm not impartial. I'll defer to those that have watched every QB and don't have a specific rooting interest to put things into context.

They ranked him 10 spots below Jimmy G and below Colt McCoy. I'm sorry, but that's just a bad ranking.

UNLESS the reason they have him low is because they believe his play will DIP. If they believe he will turn into a pumpkin, that's different. If the ranking is based on how he's played so far, then it's a laughable ranking of him.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's adjusting for supporting cast and play caller. Purdy has the best supporting cast of any QB in the league and it's hard to separate what he's doing from that. The only QB you can really directly compare him to is Jimmy, and he's played better than Jimmy, so I'd put him ahead of Jimmy, but I haven't watched enough of everyone else to be able to say where he compares league wide.

Actually, it's not hard to separate a QB's play from the talent - unless you don't watch them play. A good read is a good read. A bad read is a bad read. An accurate throw is an accurate throw. An inaccurate throw is an inaccurate throw. A 30 yard screen pass is different than throwing a 30 yard Post. It's actually not that difficult to see the difference.

Yet, all of those things are impacted by the supporting cast. If the QB is constantly under pressure or there's nobody open or if the WRs run the wrong routes, etc. is it easy to evaluate that QB vs. one that is on a well coached team that doesn't have those problems? If it is, then why do NFL teams repeatedly fail at evaluating QBs?

No idea what you are talking about.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by thl408:
Oh he was on a podcast. Wow! Well in that case he does know what he's taking about. You should have said that in the first place.

Grant Cohn-

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

Purdy isn't the 33rd best QB. I'm going to say it right now: He is better than Jimmy. He's a straight up better QB.

The thing these rankings tend to get wrong is forgetting how important just finding the open guy is. Burdy is ahead of Jimmy at that, and he's ahead of many QBs at that which are ranked above him in this list.

These "outsiders" aren't familiar enough with Shanahan's scheme to know when the QB plays above the scheme. For example, Kittle's second TD against the Seahawks. That play was designed for McCaffrey, and McCaffrey was opened, and Jimmy is throwing that 100% of the time. But the Seahawks busted the coverage, and Brock had the VISION to see it, and and nerve to pull the trigger.

I don't know. I give the outsiders the benefit of the doubt, because they're not invested in the result. I think Purdy is better than 33, but I haven't watched film of every other QB in the league and I'm not impartial. I'll defer to those that have watched every QB and don't have a specific rooting interest to put things into context.

They ranked him 10 spots below Jimmy G and below Colt McCoy. I'm sorry, but that's just a bad ranking.

UNLESS the reason they have him low is because they believe his play will DIP. If they believe he will turn into a pumpkin, that's different. If the ranking is based on how he's played so far, then it's a laughable ranking of him.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's adjusting for supporting cast and play caller. Purdy has the best supporting cast of any QB in the league and it's hard to separate what he's doing from that. The only QB you can really directly compare him to is Jimmy, and he's played better than Jimmy, so I'd put him ahead of Jimmy, but I haven't watched enough of everyone else to be able to say where he compares league wide.

Actually, it's not hard to separate a QB's play from the talent - unless you don't watch them play. A good read is a good read. A bad read is a bad read. An accurate throw is an accurate throw. An inaccurate throw is an inaccurate throw. A 30 yard screen pass is different than throwing a 30 yard Post. It's actually not that difficult to see the difference.

Yet, all of those things are impacted by the supporting cast. If the QB is constantly under pressure or there's nobody open or if the WRs run the wrong routes, etc. is it easy to evaluate that QB vs. one that is on a well coached team that doesn't have those problems? If it is, then why do NFL teams repeatedly fail at evaluating QBs?

No idea what you are talking about.

You asserted that it's not hard to accurately evaluate and compare QBs independent of their supporting cast. I don't agree and the amount of times that NFL teams fail at doing that, seems to indicate that it's not easy.

Originally posted by pdc20:
I would be ashamed to think that Baker Mayfield is better than Purdy. I saw Baker Sunday at Seattle. And I saw Purdy at Seattle. I can tell you somebody is way way better than the other.
This guy is a troll or a moron. Or both.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's the only sample size we have and the one guy in that group that played with the non-CMC version was not playing well before then. (3-4 record, running out of the back of end zones, offense scoring less than 20 points a game, etc.)

Which makes it a b******t argument. We've seen other QB's struggle immensely in this same offense and with plenty of talent around them.