QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

Jennings was open to his right out of that 3 receiver group. But the double team of the edge rusher got all in the passing lane. Glad he didn't stay with it and try to make that throw from the far hash.

These rationalizations all seem to start with the conclusion that the play Brock made on this play was the only one that could be made and thus his process for getting to result has to be sound. Don't agree and I see the roll out as still unnecessary, but Purdy rescues the play by making a more difficult throw. There's a lot of analysts out there, but I think most people here would say that jonnydel is held in regard and his explanation seems like a much more succinct and reasonable take on the play, which I won't try to paraphrase:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
This fan base was split a couple of years ago. Many posters on the webzone wanted an upgrade to Jimmy G and the other posters thought we should keep him and build the roster around him. I was in the camp that we should look to upgrade from Jimmy for a multitude of reasons, injuries being one of those reasons. Many posters have called me a hater of Jimmy g for not agreeing on his value to the team, but that's never stopped me from repeatedly saying I've always rooted for him to succeed, I really like him as person, as a leader, and I wish he could have won the super bowl with us. I've wanted to see a 49ers win the SB since I was a kid. That's always been my motivation for my stances on players.

But everything we've seen so far from Brock is exactly what this offense was lacking IMO. The camp that wanted to see better QB play is getting just that, and I feel like the results are proving that camps argument was justifiable. It's not the player most expected it to be, but Lance being that guy was never my main concern. I and many others wanted better QB play, period, and so far, he's improved our redzone offense, he's able to avoid pressure, he's able to run for first downs, he's much better at play action, and he's more accurate throwing deep (IMO).

Those are the same things we all wanted to see Lance provide to this offense, but unfortunately, we have only seen some flashes but it's nowhere near the same level consistency that we're seeing right now from Purdy.

I don't think it's fair to say after 6 games that Purdy is a better player than Jimmy. I do, however, think it's fair to say that Purdy is playing better than Jimmy... since becoming a 49er. Because we don't know what a 2017 Jimmy G would look like with this offense. I think that's an important distinction to make in fairness to Jimmy.

I see this situation as a win-win. I'd be happy if either Brock or Trey becomes our long-term franchise QB. I like both players skillsets and their personalities off the field. I think we'll need both going forward with how often we lose players to injury. Hopefully Trey and Brock both get better if they do have some sort of competition this offseason. I'd also be fine with naming Brock the starter if he performs at this current level in the playoffs.

Fantastic post, and I agree 100%.

I have been called a hater many times in regards to my opinion of Jimmy, and it has never been about disliking Jimmy the person. It has always been about the desire to get better play from the QB position. It has never been about "anyone but Jimmy." It has always been wanting better play. I even went as far as saying that better QB play doesnt even necessarily need to come from a different QB if Jimmy could step his game up. Well, Jimmy stepped his game up this season (in terms of not making bonehead plays and terrible turnovers). He still left some to be desired, but now we are now getting that from Brock. Lets just hope it continues throughout the playoffs!

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

I dont know why people care. Lets say that it is a 100% fact that Purdy bailed early. He threw a touchdown pass on that play, so what difference does it make?

It doesn't unless you're insistent that he never bails early.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Oh I haven't looked…rankings are dumb and super subjective.

I highly recommend. It's back a few pages (today).

The format is great. The list is awful.

Just saw it pinned on his page. Agree love the format…the rest is a head scratcher for sure.

Originally posted by Heroism:

.@QBKlass takes a look at the San Francisco 49ers offensive firepower, and how Brock Purdy's mobility gives them even more options to deal damage 💥 https://t.co/c97m1WTY5T

— Football Outsiders (@fboutsiders) January 11, 2023

Mobility? You mean it's a positive that a QB can move around? Shocking

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

Jennings is wide open and was supposed to be option 1, Kyle didn't like the bailout in postgame interviews

Jennings is not wide open. The CB does not follow Aiyuk, he sits in the flat. He could absolutely make that play on Jennings. Purdy sees the CB squat and also sees the LB inside and the safety over the top of Aiyuk. Could he have held on a little longer? Perhaps. But #69 gonna #69.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

I dont know why people care. Lets say that it is a 100% fact that Purdy bailed early. He threw a touchdown pass on that play, so what difference does it make?

It doesn't unless you're insistent that he never bails early.

It doesn't matter, but it matters.

Ring

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

I dont know why people care. Lets say that it is a 100% fact that Purdy bailed early. He threw a touchdown pass on that play, so what difference does it make?

It doesn't unless you're insistent that he never bails early.

Do you have any other examples of him "bailing early?"

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

I dont know why people care. Lets say that it is a 100% fact that Purdy bailed early. He threw a touchdown pass on that play, so what difference does it make?

Because this particular play was used to justify the claim that "Purdy has a tendency to bail from the pocket too soon." Otherwise I agree, it's just fantastic play that isn't worthy of any criticism from fans.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

I dont know why people care. Lets say that it is a 100% fact that Purdy bailed early. He threw a touchdown pass on that play, so what difference does it make?

And he's a freaking rookie. There's plays you can point out of him missing reads for sure. Kid overall has played well beyond what we all could imagine.

folks in here are obsessed with trying to be right. s**tting on a QB they didn't believe in (based off next to nothing) or coming back to some weird Jimmy thinking.

not sure why it's so hard for fans to say Brock is playing pretty damn well AND Lance still has a chance to be damn good all the same? Doesn't have to be one or the other.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Heroism:

.@QBKlass takes a look at the San Francisco 49ers offensive firepower, and how Brock Purdy's mobility gives them even more options to deal damage 💥 https://t.co/c97m1WTY5T

— Football Outsiders (@fboutsiders) January 11, 2023

Mobility? You mean it's a positive that a QB can move around? Shocking

No. You need a statue QB with pass pro that holds up for 6.0+ seconds. That is the best way to go if you want to win a SB. That way the QB can stare down his first read as long as it takes for it to come open.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

I dont know why people care. Lets say that it is a 100% fact that Purdy bailed early. He threw a touchdown pass on that play, so what difference does it make?

It doesn't unless you're insistent that he never bails early.

Do you have any other examples of him "bailing early?"

Please no.

Please please no.

SWH, this was hashed and rehashed for pages already. I can summarize it this way: Ring and Random fall into the "tendency" to have happy feet / bail early group. This is based, in part, on a college video of a single play, the play above, and comments from a talking head. Others may agree with them.

Furlow, myself, Vinis, and others fall into the "no tendency, and if it is it is not detrimental" group. That is based on watching games and the track record of success. Others may agree with this group.

Suffice it to say that the groups will not see eye to eye.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

I dont know why people care. Lets say that it is a 100% fact that Purdy bailed early. He threw a touchdown pass on that play, so what difference does it make?

It doesn't unless you're insistent that he never bails early.

Do you have any other examples of him "bailing early?"

Please no.

Please please no.

SWH, this was hashed and rehashed for pages already. I can summarize it this way: Ring and Random fall into the "tendency" to have happy feet / bail early group. This is based, in part, on a college video of a single play, the play above, and comments from a talking head. Others may agree with them.

Furlow, myself, Vinis, and others fall into the "no tendency, and if it is it is not detrimental" group. That is based on watching games and the track record of success. Others may agree with this group.

Suffice it to say that the groups will not see eye to eye.

Perfectly summarized.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

I dont know why people care. Lets say that it is a 100% fact that Purdy bailed early. He threw a touchdown pass on that play, so what difference does it make?

It doesn't unless you're insistent that he never bails early.

Do you have any other examples of him "bailing early?"

Please no.

Please please no.

SWH, this was hashed and rehashed for pages already. I can summarize it this way: Ring and Random fall into the "tendency" to have happy feet / bail early group. This is based, in part, on a college video of a single play, the play above, and comments from a talking head. Others may agree with them.

Furlow, myself, Vinis, and others fall into the "no tendency, and if it is it is not detrimental" group. That is based on watching games and the track record of success. Others may agree with this group.

Suffice it to say that the groups will not see eye to eye.

Sorry. I am late to the conversation.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

I dont know why people care. Lets say that it is a 100% fact that Purdy bailed early. He threw a touchdown pass on that play, so what difference does it make?

It doesn't unless you're insistent that he never bails early.

Do you have any other examples of him "bailing early?"

Please no.

Please please no.

SWH, this was hashed and rehashed for pages already. I can summarize it this way: Ring and Random fall into the "tendency" to have happy feet / bail early group. This is based, in part, on a college video of a single play, the play above, and comments from a talking head. Others may agree with them.

Furlow, myself, Vinis, and others fall into the "no tendency, and if it is it is not detrimental" group. That is based on watching games and the track record of success. Others may agree with this group.

Suffice it to say that the groups will not see eye to eye.

Sorry. I am late to the conversation.

Be glad.