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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.


I dont know why people care. Lets say that it is a 100% fact that Purdy bailed early. He threw a touchdown pass on that play, so what difference does it make?

It doesn't unless you're insistent that he never bails early.

Do you have any other examples of him "bailing early?"
Please no.

Please please no.

SWH, this was hashed and rehashed for pages already. I can summarize it this way: Ring and Random fall into the "tendency" to have happy feet / bail early group. This is based, in part, on a college video of a single play, the play above, and comments from a talking head. Others may agree with them.

Furlow, myself, Vinis, and others fall into the "no tendency, and if it is it is not detrimental" group. That is based on watching games and the track record of success. Others may agree with this group.

Suffice it to say that the groups will not see eye to eye.

Sorry. I am late to the conversation.

You didn't miss much yesterday. I tried to get just a few more examples of Purdy leaving the pocket too early but ended up just arguing about the definitions of words.

People forget that sometimes leaving the pocket is ultimately a result of a bad pre-snap read, and rookie QBs are going to do that. By that I mean, if you make a bad read pre-snap, then you're looking at the wrong thing immediately post-snap, and the defense has squashed your first or even your second read, and so then the young QB scrambles to buy time because the timing of the play is messed up DUE to their bad pre-snap read.

I don't consider that happy feet. I consider that the ability to overcome the weakness of being an inexperienced rookie.

Of course, that's not always the reason a guy might leave the pocket. But I'd argue for the TD to Kittle it is precisely why.
  • mayo49
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Brock better stay himself and not get a big head. That's not him.
Originally posted by LetsRoll:
As a Niner fan since the 70's, I can say its been a long, long time since I've had this much fun watching the games. There have been some bright spots, enough to give hope. But nothing like this Purdy kid. Man, I've got jeans older than him. Wherever this season goes, I'm going to sit back and enjoy the ride.

Bruh. Two things:
(1) You might want to update your wardrobe
(2) Congratulations for not getting significantly fatter in the last 22 years. Unless of course you kept pants that no longer fit you for weird reasons.
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Brock has an NFL arm. You can't tell me Brock has a weak arm with that throw from the far hash mark.

But his scouting report says he has a weak arm.
🤪

IIRC, Brock claims he improved his "arm strength" in the off-season, through improved mechanics.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/12/09/how-brock-purdy-was-built-from-undraftable-to-49ers-starter-daily-cover
Originally posted by Furlow:
You can't possibly know anything about my feelings based on responses today. If what I'm saying makes you feel a certain type of way though, take that up with the mirror. As far as you, Ring, and random's non-stop negativity, the rest of the responses to you should explain what everyone else thinks.

I'm sure most of the board here strives to be as positive and uplifting as you.

Football, though?
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

Jennings is wide open and was supposed to be option 1, Kyle didn't like the bailout in postgame interviews

Jennings is not wide open. The CB does not follow Aiyuk, he sits in the flat. He could absolutely make that play on Jennings. Purdy sees the CB squat and also sees the LB inside and the safety over the top of Aiyuk. Could he have held on a little longer? Perhaps. But #69 gonna #69.
just relaying what Kyle thought and expected.. If Purdy stepped up, JJ was wide open. but he bailed and also made up for it.

Again, JJ was not wide open. The CB squatted in the flat which is where JJ was going. Do you understand what it means for a CB to squat in the flat? Plus add the LB to the inside. Plus add Crosby dominating McG as he was doing all game. That pass would have been infinitely more difficult than the throw to Kittle.

But proceed to continue criticizing Purdy on a play that ended up being amazing. I swear you, Ring, and random would probably have gotten mad at Montana for throwing it to Dwight Clark instead of Freddie Solomon in the '81 NFCCG against Dallas lol.
lol Do i understand..,you saying that Kyle doesn't know or understand ? does Kyle need to be on a podcast ?

the film is there and matches to what Kyle wanted.. stop being so sensitive.. unless you think Kyle is a Purdy hater lol

Did Kyle say JJ was wide open? No. Does he want Purdy to stay within the play structure and make plays from within that play structure? Of course. It's his offense, he designed it. His ego WANTS to get credit for it. Purdy told him to sit down and relax, he got this. This is the give and take between play caller and QB that we've been missing. You, random, and Ring should be ecstatic about finally having a QB willing to do this, but instead you're holding onto to the notion that the QB should be a robot.

Although something tells me if it was Trey doing this, you'd be okay with it.
Yes he did and Lynch also confirmed it.. you even posted the YT vid .. i bet you think Kyle and lynch are haters now lol

I'm fine with Purdy.. i can also handle people's takes on him..

He said "open route." I don't disagree, he COULD have thrown it there. It wasn't "wide open" as you've been claiming, nor did Lynch say that.

Freddie Solomon was open in the '81 NFCCG, did Montana make "the wrong play" by throwing to Clark?

As someone has already mentioned, a few of you just want to be negative no matter what happens.
theres nothing negative about it, we have film, GM and HC confirming this.. it's just one football play being discussed on a football forum

all you have is your feelings, Kyle's ego i guess and freddie Soloman..

dude it's ok, you will live

You sure talk about feelings a lot. More appropriate forums for that. Keep it to football, even if you're not very good at it.
would like to talk football but all you do is talk about posters..

Oh is this you baiting me? Lol. "Feelings."
Baiting? Just the truth, last few pages/years is pretty evident.

You can't possibly know anything about my feelings based on responses today. If what I'm saying makes you feel a certain type of way though, take that up with the mirror. As far as you, Ring, and random's non-stop negativity, the rest of the responses to you should explain what everyone else thinks.
Lol what negativity? A play was discussed and your sensitivity got the best of you. If you knew how to handle your feelings, there wouldn't be pages of you talking about posters. football please
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Jan 12, 2023 at 7:13 AM ]
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
b******t, you know you said that in the Game day. If I didn't have a life I'd go back and flip through all those threads and pages.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/196399-san-francisco-49ers-washington-commanders-2022-game/page94/

'Might be time to see what Josh Johnson has. He was a decent QB when he was back at SD state'

I'm guessing this was what you were referring to. Shortly after this post, Purdy hit Kittle down the middle for a TD pass (which was intended for McCloud). Ring's first response was to sarcastically note the wobble on the pass, lol. Motivation clear as day.

Thanks bro.

You didn't answer the question about your phone. Did you actually break it in a rage during the Raiders game?

I did answer that. I said I whipped it at the wall. Refs piss me off, they ruin the game of football for me.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
b******t, you know you said that in the Game day. If I didn't have a life I'd go back and flip through all those threads and pages.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/196399-san-francisco-49ers-washington-commanders-2022-game/page94/

'Might be time to see what Josh Johnson has. He was a decent QB when he was back at SD state'

I'm guessing this was what you were referring to. Shortly after this post, Purdy hit Kittle down the middle for a TD pass (which was intended for McCloud). Ring's first response was to sarcastically note the wobble on the pass, lol. Motivation clear as day.

Thanks bro.

You didn't answer the question about your phone. Did you actually break it in a rage during the Raiders game?

I did answer that. I said I whipped it at the wall. Refs piss me off, they ruin the game of football for me.

Fair enough, I missed your initial reply.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
IIRC, Brock claims he improved his "arm strength" in the off-season, through improved mechanics.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/12/09/how-brock-purdy-was-built-from-undraftable-to-49ers-starter-daily-cover

• He needed to settle into a better pre-pass stance, which involved dropping his hips and engaging his glute muscles.

are we sure Brock met with legit people lol
[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Jan 12, 2023 at 1:06 AM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
You can't possibly know anything about my feelings based on responses today. If what I'm saying makes you feel a certain type of way though, take that up with the mirror. As far as you, Ring, and random's non-stop negativity, the rest of the responses to you should explain what everyone else thinks.

I'm sure most of the board here strives to be as positive and uplifting as you.

Football, though?

He learnt off you in the JG thread, you big ray of sunshine
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
IIRC, Brock claims he improved his "arm strength" in the off-season, through improved mechanics.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/12/09/how-brock-purdy-was-built-from-undraftable-to-49ers-starter-daily-cover

• He needed to settle into a better pre-pass stance, which involved dropping his hips and engaging his glute muscles.

are we sure Brock met with legit people lol


Maybe he just needed some, eh, release.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Jan 12, 2023 at 2:35 AM ]
Originally posted by Waterbear:
This fan base was split a couple of years ago. Many posters on the webzone wanted an upgrade to Jimmy G and the other posters thought we should keep him and build the roster around him. I was in the camp that we should look to upgrade from Jimmy for a multitude of reasons, injuries being one of those reasons. Many posters have called me a hater of Jimmy g for not agreeing on his value to the team, but that's never stopped me from repeatedly saying I've always rooted for him to succeed, I really like him as person, as a leader, and I wish he could have won the super bowl with us. I've wanted to see a 49ers win the SB since I was a kid. That's always been my motivation for my stances on players.

But everything we've seen so far from Brock is exactly what this offense was lacking IMO. The camp that wanted to see better QB play is getting just that, and I feel like the results are proving that camps argument was justifiable. It's not the player most expected it to be, but Lance being that guy was never my main concern. I and many others wanted better QB play, period, and so far, he's improved our redzone offense, he's able to avoid pressure, he's able to run for first downs, he's much better at play action, and he's more accurate throwing deep (IMO).

Those are the same things we all wanted to see Lance provide to this offense, but unfortunately, we have only seen some flashes but it's nowhere near the same level consistency that we're seeing right now from Purdy.

I don't think it's fair to say after 6 games that Purdy is a better player than Jimmy. I do, however, think it's fair to say that Purdy is playing better than Jimmy... since becoming a 49er. Because we don't know what a 2017 Jimmy G would look like with this offense. I think that's an important distinction to make in fairness to Jimmy.

I see this situation as a win-win. I'd be happy if either Brock or Trey becomes our long-term franchise QB. I like both players skillsets and their personalities off the field. I think we'll need both going forward with how often we lose players to injury. Hopefully Trey and Brock both get better if they do have some sort of competition this offseason. I'd also be fine with naming Brock the starter if he performs at this current level in the playoffs.

Great post, Water!
GO BROCK PURDY!!

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
100% this. I think what we can ALL agree on is that Jimmy (because of his age and contract demands) is out of this equation. We will be left with the cheapest and one of the best overall QB rooms in the league next season, which will allow us to afford to extend all of our stars. Purdy's emergence is a HUGE development for this team.

Personally, I will eat a good helping of crow because I did not feel that Jimmy was holding the offense back. He clearly was. Now, I think a lot of that has to do with his personality rather than his talent, but the results are clear. Purdy Kyle >>>> Jimmy Kyle. For whatever reason, Jimmy Kyle just couldn't quite get over the hump, and I don't just mean the Super Bowl. They just didn't have that "magic" that it takes for sustained success. Purdy Kyle has that magic quality to them.

Oh I've eaten plenty of crow over the years in here lol. Debating is fine, but owning up after the fact should be part of the deal imo.

I just don't see why it's either Brock is great and Lance blows or the other way around. I gave Jimmy 4 yrs before coming to the conclusion that we needed to look elsewhere. People are giving Lance 3 games and Brock 6 games to come to conclusions on who they are and that's foolish. I'm just happy that we got some young blood in here that can grow/develop…we will see how it all shakes out later.

Jimmy made sense as Kyle's choice and so did upgrading the position.
Lance made sense as a high upside draft pick. I don't think he was a reach.
Purdy made sense to snag in the draft so as not to lose him in the UDFA market and the team hit the jackpot like some great teams have before late in the draft.

Purdy > Jimmy, he brings more to the table physically and processes better. Jimmy would make a great postseason backup this year.
Lance showed some really good flashes, I was excited to see him as the starter this year. He'll push Purdy and compete for the starting job and will give the team at minimum a great backup and a potential upgrade as a starter. I'd like to see him with similar play calling to what we are seeing for Purdy, it seems like a fit for him and less injury risk.

Jimmy will move on after the season and the 49ers will be left with two young and dynamic QBs on the cheap. Trading either Lance or Purdy at this point would be silly.

Works for me
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
You can't possibly know anything about my feelings based on responses today. If what I'm saying makes you feel a certain type of way though, take that up with the mirror. As far as you, Ring, and random's non-stop negativity, the rest of the responses to you should explain what everyone else thinks.

I'm sure most of the board here strives to be as positive and uplifting as you.

Football, though?

He learnt off you in the JG thread, you big ray of sunshine

Always included some kind of discussion of the 49ers in there, however.

Big day in 2 days. Maybe we can discuss the guys actually involved in that process?
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