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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:

Nice. We already know he understands zone, and we've seen him not get rattled with a free rusher barreling down on him as he throws. I think the only thing that might stump him is exotic presnap disguises which he is seeing for the first time since he's a rookie starter. I think CMC and Kittle has been great options versus man coverage.

I'm of the opinion that Zone coverage is a stronger bet against the 49ers---given the propensity for YAC, teams need to keep our pass-catchers in front of them, so zone coverages work better to ensure they have tacklers. Sure, maybe a team could feel confident in man coverage against Deebo/Aiyuk, but if they catch it and break one tackle, it could be off to the races.

And then Kittle, CMC, Juice, particularly... those three in man coverages against linebackers would feast... I can't think of a defense that has the cover linebackers that could go against them... maybe just our own defense.
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Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

Jennings is wide open and was supposed to be option 1, Kyle didn't like the bailout in postgame interviews

Jennings is not wide open. The CB does not follow Aiyuk, he sits in the flat. He could absolutely make that play on Jennings. Purdy sees the CB squat and also sees the LB inside and the safety over the top of Aiyuk. Could he have held on a little longer? Perhaps. But #69 gonna #69.
just relaying what Kyle thought and expected.. If Purdy stepped up, JJ was wide open. but he bailed and also made up for it.

Again, JJ was not wide open. The CB squatted in the flat which is where JJ was going. Do you understand what it means for a CB to squat in the flat? Plus add the LB to the inside. Plus add Crosby dominating McG as he was doing all game. That pass would have been infinitely more difficult than the throw to Kittle.

But proceed to continue criticizing Purdy on a play that ended up being amazing. I swear you, Ring, and random would probably have gotten mad at Montana for throwing it to Dwight Clark instead of Freddie Solomon in the '81 NFCCG against Dallas lol.
lol Do i understand..,you saying that Kyle doesn't know or understand ? does Kyle need to be on a podcast ?

the film is there and matches to what Kyle wanted.. stop being so sensitive.. unless you think Kyle is a Purdy hater lol

Did Kyle say JJ was wide open? No. Does he want Purdy to stay within the play structure and make plays from within that play structure? Of course. It's his offense, he designed it. His ego WANTS to get credit for it. Purdy told him to sit down and relax, he got this. This is the give and take between play caller and QB that we've been missing. You, random, and Ring should be ecstatic about finally having a QB willing to do this, but instead you're holding onto to the notion that the QB should be a robot.

Although something tells me if it was Trey doing this, you'd be okay with it.
Yes he did and Lynch also confirmed it.. you even posted the YT vid .. i bet you think Kyle and lynch are haters now lol

I'm fine with Purdy.. i can also handle people's takes on him..

He said "open route." I don't disagree, he COULD have thrown it there. It wasn't "wide open" as you've been claiming, nor did Lynch say that.

Freddie Solomon was open in the '81 NFCCG, did Montana make "the wrong play" by throwing to Clark?

As someone has already mentioned, a few of you just want to be negative no matter what happens.
theres nothing negative about it, we have film, GM and HC confirming this.. it's just one football play being discussed on a football forum

all you have is your feelings, Kyle's ego i guess and freddie Soloman..

dude it's ok, you will live

You sure talk about feelings a lot. More appropriate forums for that. Keep it to football, even if you're not very good at it.
would like to talk football but all you do is talk about posters..

Oh is this you baiting me? Lol. "Feelings."
Baiting? Just the truth, last few pages/years is pretty evident.

You can't possibly know anything about my feelings based on responses today. If what I'm saying makes you feel a certain type of way though, take that up with the mirror. As far as you, Ring, and random's non-stop negativity, the rest of the responses to you should explain what everyone else thinks.
Lol what negativity? A play was discussed and your sensitivity got the best of you. If you knew how to handle your feelings, there wouldn't be pages of you talking about posters. football please

Here you go talking about my feelings again. Let it go, man. If I don't agree with someone's take, that means I'm sensitive? Well then you must be REALLY sensitive because you disagree with almost everyone every single day. That's a very feminine way of arguing, man up, dude.

The negativity I'm speaking of is you, Ring, and random constantly criticizing - even when the result of the play is positive. We're talking about one of the best highlights of this season, from our rookie QB, and the three of you are going on and on about "leaving the pocket early." There are so many other things that we could be discussing about Purdy's game, or what he can improve on. Yet you're choosing a play that had an amazingly positive result. It's weird.

No feelings, 100% logic.
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Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:

Nice. We already know he understands zone, and we've seen him not get rattled with a free rusher barreling down on him as he throws. I think the only thing that might stump him is exotic presnap disguises which he is seeing for the first time since he's a rookie starter. I think CMC and Kittle has been great options versus man coverage.

I'm of the opinion that Zone coverage is a stronger bet against the 49ers---given the propensity for YAC, teams need to keep our pass-catchers in front of them, so zone coverages work better to ensure they have tacklers. Sure, maybe a team could feel confident in man coverage against Deebo/Aiyuk, but if they catch it and break one tackle, it could be off to the races.

And then Kittle, CMC, Juice, particularly... those three in man coverages against linebackers would feast... I can't think of a defense that has the cover linebackers that could go against them... maybe just our own defense.

I agree with your points about playing man and possibly giving up more YAC. I think against a QB that shows no glaring weakness when it comes to man versus zone coverage is to throw variety at the QB. Zone, man, blitz, drop 8, disguise, don't disguise, all of it. It's crazy to think it's hard to confuse a rookie QB, but Brock has yet to show he struggles against any one particular thing.
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
All-22 view of the infamous play where Purdy "bailed from the pocket too soon." Aiyuk and Jennings are the primary read on the right, but they have 3 guys covering them in a bracket. Kittle is one on one with a LB. Purdy knows that Kittle is going to work his way across the back of the end zone, so Purdy moves left to make an easier throw.

Jennings is wide open and was supposed to be option 1, Kyle didn't like the bailout in postgame interviews

Jennings is not wide open. The CB does not follow Aiyuk, he sits in the flat. He could absolutely make that play on Jennings. Purdy sees the CB squat and also sees the LB inside and the safety over the top of Aiyuk. Could he have held on a little longer? Perhaps. But #69 gonna #69.
just relaying what Kyle thought and expected.. If Purdy stepped up, JJ was wide open. but he bailed and also made up for it.

Again, JJ was not wide open. The CB squatted in the flat which is where JJ was going. Do you understand what it means for a CB to squat in the flat? Plus add the LB to the inside. Plus add Crosby dominating McG as he was doing all game. That pass would have been infinitely more difficult than the throw to Kittle.

But proceed to continue criticizing Purdy on a play that ended up being amazing. I swear you, Ring, and random would probably have gotten mad at Montana for throwing it to Dwight Clark instead of Freddie Solomon in the '81 NFCCG against Dallas lol.
lol Do i understand..,you saying that Kyle doesn't know or understand ? does Kyle need to be on a podcast ?

the film is there and matches to what Kyle wanted.. stop being so sensitive.. unless you think Kyle is a Purdy hater lol

Did Kyle say JJ was wide open? No. Does he want Purdy to stay within the play structure and make plays from within that play structure? Of course. It's his offense, he designed it. His ego WANTS to get credit for it. Purdy told him to sit down and relax, he got this. This is the give and take between play caller and QB that we've been missing. You, random, and Ring should be ecstatic about finally having a QB willing to do this, but instead you're holding onto to the notion that the QB should be a robot.

Although something tells me if it was Trey doing this, you'd be okay with it.
Yes he did and Lynch also confirmed it.. you even posted the YT vid .. i bet you think Kyle and lynch are haters now lol

I'm fine with Purdy.. i can also handle people's takes on him..

He said "open route." I don't disagree, he COULD have thrown it there. It wasn't "wide open" as you've been claiming, nor did Lynch say that.

Freddie Solomon was open in the '81 NFCCG, did Montana make "the wrong play" by throwing to Clark?

As someone has already mentioned, a few of you just want to be negative no matter what happens.
theres nothing negative about it, we have film, GM and HC confirming this.. it's just one football play being discussed on a football forum

all you have is your feelings, Kyle's ego i guess and freddie Soloman..

dude it's ok, you will live

You sure talk about feelings a lot. More appropriate forums for that. Keep it to football, even if you're not very good at it.
would like to talk football but all you do is talk about posters..

Oh is this you baiting me? Lol. "Feelings."
Baiting? Just the truth, last few pages/years is pretty evident.

You can't possibly know anything about my feelings based on responses today. If what I'm saying makes you feel a certain type of way though, take that up with the mirror. As far as you, Ring, and random's non-stop negativity, the rest of the responses to you should explain what everyone else thinks.
Lol what negativity? A play was discussed and your sensitivity got the best of you. If you knew how to handle your feelings, there wouldn't be pages of you talking about posters. football please

Here you go talking about my feelings again. Let it go, man. If I don't agree with someone's take, that means I'm sensitive? Well then you must be REALLY sensitive because you disagree with almost everyone every single day. That's a very feminine way of arguing, man up, dude.

The negativity I'm speaking of is you, Ring, and random constantly criticizing - even when the result of the play is positive. We're talking about one of the best highlights of this season, from our rookie QB, and the three of you are going on and on about "leaving the pocket early." There are so many other things that we could be discussing about Purdy's game, or what he can improve on. Yet you're choosing a play that had an amazingly positive result. It's weird.

No feelings, 100% logic.
again what negativity ? in no way was i negative.. it's you, that feels that way for some reason

you want to talk manning up.. you are the only one who's feelings are hurt because there was proof of him leaving the pocket. there is nothing wrong with that.. but you can't handle that ?
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:

Nice. We already know he understands zone, and we've seen him not get rattled with a free rusher barreling down on him as he throws. I think the only thing that might stump him is exotic presnap disguises which he is seeing for the first time since he's a rookie starter. I think CMC and Kittle has been great options versus man coverage.

I'm of the opinion that Zone coverage is a stronger bet against the 49ers---given the propensity for YAC, teams need to keep our pass-catchers in front of them, so zone coverages work better to ensure they have tacklers. Sure, maybe a team could feel confident in man coverage against Deebo/Aiyuk, but if they catch it and break one tackle, it could be off to the races.

And then Kittle, CMC, Juice, particularly... those three in man coverages against linebackers would feast... I can't think of a defense that has the cover linebackers that could go against them... maybe just our own defense.

I agree with your points about playing man and possibly giving up more YAC. I think against a QB that shows no glaring weakness when it comes to man versus zone coverage is to throw variety at the QB. Zone, man, blitz, drop 8, disguise, don't disguise, all of it. It's crazy to think it's hard to confuse a rookie QB, but Brock has yet to show he struggles against any one particular thing.

This coming from thl408 made me feel much more confident Purdy won't get figured out by DC once there are more film.
If the comment doesn't have to do with Purdy or in some way relates to Purdy and especially if its complaining about or attacking other posters/mods, any forum user, its a straight up TO.

Stop taking this thread into the weeds of personal bickering and complaining about one another and if you're just here to troll and aren't debating in good faith or are attempting to incite other posters, you will be dealt with also.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
If the comment doesn't have to do with Purdy or in some way relates to Purdy and especially if its complaining about or attacking other posters/mods, any forum user, its a straight up TO.

Stop taking this thread into the weeds of personal bickering and complaining about one another and if you're just here to troll and aren't debating in good faith or are attempting to incite other posters, you will be dealt with also.

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Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:

Nice. We already know he understands zone, and we've seen him not get rattled with a free rusher barreling down on him as he throws. I think the only thing that might stump him is exotic presnap disguises which he is seeing for the first time since he's a rookie starter. I think CMC and Kittle has been great options versus man coverage.

Do you notice anything about him not throwing the ball as well on the right side of the field?

I know that's what the NextGen charts indicate (that he is more effective throwing to the left side of the field). No idea why.

Ok. I want to see how Pete Carroll scheme against Purdy. This will be the first time in Purdy's NFL career to faced a team the second time.

Tough to do that against Purdy when CMC and Mitchell can road grade that run defense.
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Muhahaha hopefully this helps him make an unprecedented push for Offensice rookie of the year
If all the rookies were thrown back into a pool and a draft was held today, where would Purdy go?
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:

Nice. We already know he understands zone, and we've seen him not get rattled with a free rusher barreling down on him as he throws. I think the only thing that might stump him is exotic presnap disguises which he is seeing for the first time since he's a rookie starter. I think CMC and Kittle has been great options versus man coverage.

I'm of the opinion that Zone coverage is a stronger bet against the 49ers---given the propensity for YAC, teams need to keep our pass-catchers in front of them, so zone coverages work better to ensure they have tacklers. Sure, maybe a team could feel confident in man coverage against Deebo/Aiyuk, but if they catch it and break one tackle, it could be off to the races.

And then Kittle, CMC, Juice, particularly... those three in man coverages against linebackers would feast... I can't think of a defense that has the cover linebackers that could go against them... maybe just our own defense.

I agree with your points about playing man and possibly giving up more YAC. I think against a QB that shows no glaring weakness when it comes to man versus zone coverage is to throw variety at the QB. Zone, man, blitz, drop 8, disguise, don't disguise, all of it. It's crazy to think it's hard to confuse a rookie QB, but Brock has yet to show he struggles against any one particular thing.

Agree 💯%, and I'll just add that its tough to play man against a QB that has such a powerful ground game. Usually you play zone in the back and the front seven read and react. That makes Brock's job easier to read the defense on pass plays.
Originally posted by Midbay:
If all the rookies were thrown back into a pool and a draft was held today, where would Purdy go?

To Pittsburgh haha
kinda worried that seattle might defend better against brock after seeing him before. brock hasnt played the same team twice yet
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