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QB Brock Purdy Thread
Jan 12, 2023 at 12:31 PM
- LetsRoll
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It would be a bonus if Purdy were a few inches taller, but so far he has dealt with it well. I think his mobility in and out of the pocket allows him to slide to a spot where he can see the field better. Will some of his throws still be affected? Probably. Just like every single QB on the field is affected by whatever their problem area is whether that be slow mental processing, lack of accuracy etc. Until Purdy starts losing games because he's short, I'm not going to worry about it.
Jan 12, 2023 at 12:35 PM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by boast:
One more Brock nugget per @NextGenStats:
— Rob "Stats" Guerrera (@StatsOnFire) January 12, 2023
All 3 of his TD passes last week came against man coverage.
Since Week 14, Purdy has a NGS Passing Score of 92 against man coverage, 2nd-highest in the NFL.
Against man coverage, BCB and Shanahan will make you pay.#49ers
Nice. We already know he understands zone, and we've seen him not get rattled with a free rusher barreling down on him as he throws. I think the only thing that might stump him is exotic presnap disguises which he is seeing for the first time since he's a rookie starter. I think CMC and Kittle has been great options versus man coverage.
I'm of the opinion that Zone coverage is a stronger bet against the 49ers---given the propensity for YAC, teams need to keep our pass-catchers in front of them, so zone coverages work better to ensure they have tacklers. Sure, maybe a team could feel confident in man coverage against Deebo/Aiyuk, but if they catch it and break one tackle, it could be off to the races.
And then Kittle, CMC, Juice, particularly... those three in man coverages against linebackers would feast... I can't think of a defense that has the cover linebackers that could go against them... maybe just our own defense.
I agree with your points about playing man and possibly giving up more YAC. I think against a QB that shows no glaring weakness when it comes to man versus zone coverage is to throw variety at the QB. Zone, man, blitz, drop 8, disguise, don't disguise, all of it. It's crazy to think it's hard to confuse a rookie QB, but Brock has yet to show he struggles against any one particular thing.
Agree 💯%, and I'll just add that its tough to play man against a QB that has such a powerful ground game. Usually you play zone in the back and the front seven read and react. That makes Brock's job easier to read the defense on pass plays.
It's incredible that he is understands what is going on well enough to not make mistakes even when he reads the defense wrong - dolphins changed their whole game plan against him and he adjusted. His football IQ is special. I'm hoping his calmness and poise continue, I don't see a reason why he wouldn't!
very excited for this young man and the potential he brings to our franchise going forward! Let's go!
Lots of factors why he dropped to us. Scouts underestimated how bad his college offensive coordinator was, and that he was playing too much hero ball and making some spectacular errors that made the highlight reels, to his draft value detriment. But, you can't measure football IQ very easily. You can measure throw MPH, forty yard dash, 10 yard split, etc... but football IQ is - you just know it when you see it - that's pretty much the only way to measure it. Even if you are Tom Brady, if you don't have a good OLine and a good RB to bail you out of some mistakes or bad situations - it's still going to be bad day for the QB. The nice thing about Purdy's situation is that he has a brilliant OC, with a particular genius in spotting undervalued running backs. He'll always, I predict, have a great run game to lean on in bad weather and when he has a bad day.
Jan 12, 2023 at 12:35 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by LetsRoll:
It would be a bonus if Purdy were a few inches taller, but so far he has dealt with it well. I think his mobility in and out of the pocket allows him to slide to a spot where he can see the field better. Will some of his throws still be affected? Probably. Just like every single QB on the field is affected by whatever their problem area is whether that be slow mental processing, lack of accuracy etc. Until Purdy starts losing games because he's short, I'm not going to worry about it.
If he were a few inches taller; he may not be a 49er..
Jan 12, 2023 at 12:36 PM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by LetsRoll:
It would be a bonus if Purdy were a few inches taller, but so far he has dealt with it well. I think his mobility in and out of the pocket allows him to slide to a spot where he can see the field better. Will some of his throws still be affected? Probably. Just like every single QB on the field is affected by whatever their problem area is whether that be slow mental processing, lack of accuracy etc. Until Purdy starts losing games because he's short, I'm not going to worry about it.
Drew Brees was shorter and he dominated the passing game. Same thing with Brees that Steve Young had - both didn't have top of the line defenses.
Jan 12, 2023 at 12:41 PM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:wow first O 49er eh.. didn't think we never had one before
Originally posted by NYniner85:
#49ers QB Brock Purdy named the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Month for December/January.
— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) January 12, 2023
He's the first-ever 49er to win Offensive Rookie of the Month honors and is the first QB to win the award this season. Also first former Iowa State player to win a Rookie of the Month award.
Time to get some Postseason awards now.
https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/Rookies-of-the-Month---December-January.aspxhttps://nflcommunications.com/Pages/Rookies-of-the-Month---December-January.aspx
- He is the third rookie quarterback ever to win each of his first five career starts joining BEN ROETHLISBERGER (won first 13 starts in 2004) and MIKE KRUCZEK (first six in 1976) and is the second rookie in NFL history with at least two touchdown passes in six consecutive games (JUSTIN HERBERT, seven consecutive games in 2020).
Just for comparison, Big Ben was 11 pick in the draft and Justin was 6th pick in the draft.
Mike Kruczek was a 2nd round pick. All these QB's drafted in the Top 10 and the 2nd round. Then you have Brock Purdy, the last pick in the draft. Much more impressive than the ones above him.
49ers win the Super Bowl next month, you give this young man $100 mil the next day dammit!!
Agree 💯%, and Big Ben and Prudy have the same kind of talent surrounding them. So I think the streak can extend longer simply because of the talent on both teams. Ben did 13, why not Purdy? 🤷♀️
Jan 12, 2023 at 12:43 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Mike Kruczek was a 2nd round pick. All these QB's drafted in the Top 10 and the 2nd round. Then you have Brock Purdy, the last pick in the draft. Much more impressive than the ones above him.
49ers win the Super Bowl next month, you give this young man $100 mil the next day dammit!!
How does that work? I don't think you can do extensions with young rook contract guys until a certain number of years. That's why it doesn't happen.
Jan 12, 2023 at 12:51 PM
- pdfortune
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Some joke on the Ringer claims Purdy is the 33rd best QB in the NFL (behind Jimmy G). First, he definitely isn't worse than 32 QBs that are played in the last few weeks. He also ranked Purdy 14th of playoff QBs (he included Tua which isn't playing and Jackson that appears to not be playing) even though the aforementioned information was announced before the article posted yesterday.
I hope people keep doubting him. I hope it fuels him like Brady and Rodgers that still have chips on their shoulders.
I hope people keep doubting him. I hope it fuels him like Brady and Rodgers that still have chips on their shoulders.
[ Edited by pdfortune on Jan 12, 2023 at 12:52 PM ]
Jan 12, 2023 at 12:56 PM
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Mike Kruczek was a 2nd round pick. All these QB's drafted in the Top 10 and the 2nd round. Then you have Brock Purdy, the last pick in the draft. Much more impressive than the ones above him.
49ers win the Super Bowl next month, you give this young man $100 mil the next day dammit!!
How does that work? I don't think you can do extensions with young rook contract guys until a certain number of years. That's why it doesn't happen.
I know, I'm just talking outta my ass.
Jan 12, 2023 at 12:59 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Mike Kruczek was a 2nd round pick. All these QB's drafted in the Top 10 and the 2nd round. Then you have Brock Purdy, the last pick in the draft. Much more impressive than the ones above him.
49ers win the Super Bowl next month, you give this young man $100 mil the next day dammit!!
How does that work? I don't think you can do extensions with young rook contract guys until a certain number of years. That's why it doesn't happen.
I know, I'm just talking outta my ass.
I'm with you man.. if this was MLB I would be coming to him now with a new deal
Jan 12, 2023 at 1:08 PM
- 49ers81
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Why does ESPN allow a guy that wasn't ever even a starting QB rank all of the playoff QBs? Dude has Purdy at #15 out of 16. Only the fins QB ranked below him.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35413498/ranking-nfl-playoff-quarterbacks-2023-dan-orlovsky-stacks-strengths-weaknesses-all-14
Cause this guy wants you to do exactly what you just did - share it and get him more clicks/notoriety. I usually ignore these because did that, even though they annoy me too. It's obvious he doesn't watch many games and just goes for clickbait
yeah, I'm not very big on Orlovsky. He's another guy who likes to rip Jimmy's play a lot and every time he does I keep thinking, well, Dan, how many NFC Championship games did you take your teams to. Not saying he isn't entitled to his opinion about a player but he is just so effing condescending about it. Him and Mina Kimes.
Jan 12, 2023 at 1:20 PM
- Goatie
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Mike Kruczek was a 2nd round pick. All these QB's drafted in the Top 10 and the 2nd round. Then you have Brock Purdy, the last pick in the draft. Much more impressive than the ones above him.
49ers win the Super Bowl next month, you give this young man $100 mil the next day dammit!!
How does that work? I don't think you can do extensions with young rook contract guys until a certain number of years. That's why it doesn't happen.
I know, I'm just talking outta my ass.
He will get a big pay day in a couple of more years. And that won't leave much money for Trey
Jan 12, 2023 at 1:39 PM
- Hysterikal
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Jan 12, 2023 at 1:57 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by pdfortune:
Some joke on the Ringer claims Purdy is the 33rd best QB in the NFL (behind Jimmy G). First, he definitely isn't worse than 32 QBs that are played in the last few weeks. He also ranked Purdy 14th of playoff QBs (he included Tua which isn't playing and Jackson that appears to not be playing) even though the aforementioned information was announced before the article posted yesterday.
I hope people keep doubting him. I hope it fuels him like Brady and Rodgers that still have chips on their shoulders.
I agree with a lot of this, but I dont think QBs not playing should disqualify them from being ranked. I just think that's faulty logic. If Justin Jefferson was out this weekend, would he still not be the best (or one of the best WRs) in the playoffs?
Jan 12, 2023 at 2:22 PM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
This means he's not gonna win ROTY
Purdy has played well but I haven't really looked at the other offensive rookies so I can't compare him. His small sample size could work against him. If he had played all season and the Niners had this same record, he would likely be a shoe in.
He's played the best of all of them. But the sample size isn't enough.
Jan 12, 2023 at 3:04 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:Sample size is large enough, he touched the ball every snap
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
This means he's not gonna win ROTY
Purdy has played well but I haven't really looked at the other offensive rookies so I can't compare him. His small sample size could work against him. If he had played all season and the Niners had this same record, he would likely be a shoe in.
He's played the best of all of them. But the sample size isn't enough.