QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Just imagine the hype if this dude sustains his current level of play during a deep playoff run. His face will be everywhere, and he'll deserve it.

Winning playoff games is tough, so I'll take wins any way we can get them. But yeah, if we're winning and he keeps doing what he's been doing, his stardom will rise very quickly. So far I think there are a good amount of people still dismissing this as Purdy getting carried by the defense and run game, because that's been the narrative for Jimmy for so long. If you're not watching Niners games and just looking at stats, it's not all that impressive. But for those of us who are actually watching, it's obviously a different story.

I don't know about that. His efficiency stats are near the top of the league across the board.

And now that we've had a few games, the stats have finally caught up with the eye test with respect to down the field passing. Brock's completed air yards per pass attempt is 5.9, while Jimmy's is 4.8. His completed air yards per pass attempt is 3.9 compared to 3.2 for Jimmy. Not slamming Jimmy, just pointing out his numbers as a reference point to compare in order to highlight just how good even the advanced stats look for Purdy. Granted, neither one of those numbers are elite (CAY/PA would be tied with Lamar Jackson for 14th), but they do represent an improvement in the offense in terms of quarterback contribution to big passing plays. And that means defenses are having to cover slightly deeper routes.

I meant more so the casual fan looking at yards, TD's, etc. They aren't eye popping fantasy numbers, essentially. I 100% agree that from an efficiency standpoint, he has been stellar. If anything, he has carried the defense which has looked very average towards the end of the season.

Yes the eye test is obvious that he's been an improvement over Jimmy, especially down field. Those are significant differences that you're pointing out as well which backs up what we're all seeing.

some post tweets like this and claim Brock is just Jimmy

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Just imagine the hype if this dude sustains his current level of play during a deep playoff run. His face will be everywhere, and he'll deserve it.

Winning playoff games is tough, so I'll take wins any way we can get them. But yeah, if we're winning and he keeps doing what he's been doing, his stardom will rise very quickly. So far I think there are a good amount of people still dismissing this as Purdy getting carried by the defense and run game, because that's been the narrative for Jimmy for so long. If you're not watching Niners games and just looking at stats, it's not all that impressive. But for those of us who are actually watching, it's obviously a different story.

I don't know about that. His efficiency stats are near the top of the league across the board.

And now that we've had a few games, the stats have finally caught up with the eye test with respect to down the field passing. Brock's completed air yards per pass attempt is 5.9, while Jimmy's is 4.8. His completed air yards per pass attempt is 3.9 compared to 3.2 for Jimmy. Not slamming Jimmy, just pointing out his numbers as a reference point to compare in order to highlight just how good even the advanced stats look for Purdy. Granted, neither one of those numbers are elite (CAY/PA would be tied with Lamar Jackson for 14th), but they do represent an improvement in the offense in terms of quarterback contribution to big passing plays. And that means defenses are having to cover slightly deeper routes.

I meant more so the casual fan looking at yards, TD's, etc. They aren't eye popping fantasy numbers, essentially. I 100% agree that from an efficiency standpoint, he has been stellar. If anything, he has carried the defense which has looked very average towards the end of the season.

Yes the eye test is obvious that he's been an improvement over Jimmy, especially down field. Those are significant differences that you're pointing out as well which backs up what we're all seeing.

Fair enough dude you're right on that count. Not TDs, but yards (he's actually killing it in TDs tbh).

Originally posted by libertyforever:
fivethirtyeight.com/features/brock-purdy-was-mr-irrelevant-now-hes-mr-impossible/

Originally posted by libertyforever:
fivethirtyeight.com/features/brock-purdy-was-mr-irrelevant-now-hes-mr-impossible/

Thats a good ass name for the movie they'll eventually make about this. "Mr. Impossible."

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Just imagine the hype if this dude sustains his current level of play during a deep playoff run. His face will be everywhere, and he'll deserve it.

Winning playoff games is tough, so I'll take wins any way we can get them. But yeah, if we're winning and he keeps doing what he's been doing, his stardom will rise very quickly. So far I think there are a good amount of people still dismissing this as Purdy getting carried by the defense and run game, because that's been the narrative for Jimmy for so long. If you're not watching Niners games and just looking at stats, it's not all that impressive. But for those of us who are actually watching, it's obviously a different story.

I don't know about that. His efficiency stats are near the top of the league across the board.

And now that we've had a few games, the stats have finally caught up with the eye test with respect to down the field passing. Brock's completed air yards per pass attempt is 5.9, while Jimmy's is 4.8. His completed air yards per pass attempt is 3.9 compared to 3.2 for Jimmy. Not slamming Jimmy, just pointing out his numbers as a reference point to compare in order to highlight just how good even the advanced stats look for Purdy. Granted, neither one of those numbers are elite (CAY/PA would be tied with Lamar Jackson for 14th), but they do represent an improvement in the offense in terms of quarterback contribution to big passing plays. And that means defenses are having to cover slightly deeper routes.

I meant more so the casual fan looking at yards, TD's, etc. They aren't eye popping fantasy numbers, essentially. I 100% agree that from an efficiency standpoint, he has been stellar. If anything, he has carried the defense which has looked very average towards the end of the season.

Yes the eye test is obvious that he's been an improvement over Jimmy, especially down field. Those are significant differences that you're pointing out as well which backs up what we're all seeing.

some post tweets like this and claim Brock is just Jimmy

Jimmy Garoppolo vs Brock Purdy, per @NextGenStats:

Time to throw: Brock 2.84, Jimmy 2.66
Air Yards/Completion: Brock 5.9, Jimmy 4.7
Air Yards/Attempt: Brock 6.7, Jimmy 6.8
Aggression %: Brock 9.4%, Jimmy 14%#49ers

— Rob "Stats" Guerrera (@StatsOnFire) January 12, 2023

WTF is Aggression %?

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Just imagine the hype if this dude sustains his current level of play during a deep playoff run. His face will be everywhere, and he'll deserve it.

Winning playoff games is tough, so I'll take wins any way we can get them. But yeah, if we're winning and he keeps doing what he's been doing, his stardom will rise very quickly. So far I think there are a good amount of people still dismissing this as Purdy getting carried by the defense and run game, because that's been the narrative for Jimmy for so long. If you're not watching Niners games and just looking at stats, it's not all that impressive. But for those of us who are actually watching, it's obviously a different story.

I don't know about that. His efficiency stats are near the top of the league across the board.

And now that we've had a few games, the stats have finally caught up with the eye test with respect to down the field passing. Brock's completed air yards per pass attempt is 5.9, while Jimmy's is 4.8. His completed air yards per pass attempt is 3.9 compared to 3.2 for Jimmy. Not slamming Jimmy, just pointing out his numbers as a reference point to compare in order to highlight just how good even the advanced stats look for Purdy. Granted, neither one of those numbers are elite (CAY/PA would be tied with Lamar Jackson for 14th), but they do represent an improvement in the offense in terms of quarterback contribution to big passing plays. And that means defenses are having to cover slightly deeper routes.

I meant more so the casual fan looking at yards, TD's, etc. They aren't eye popping fantasy numbers, essentially. I 100% agree that from an efficiency standpoint, he has been stellar. If anything, he has carried the defense which has looked very average towards the end of the season.

Yes the eye test is obvious that he's been an improvement over Jimmy, especially down field. Those are significant differences that you're pointing out as well which backs up what we're all seeing.

some post tweets like this and claim Brock is just Jimmy

Jimmy Garoppolo vs Brock Purdy, per @NextGenStats:

Time to throw: Brock 2.84, Jimmy 2.66
Air Yards/Completion: Brock 5.9, Jimmy 4.7
Air Yards/Attempt: Brock 6.7, Jimmy 6.8
Aggression %: Brock 9.4%, Jimmy 14%#49ers

— Rob "Stats" Guerrera (@StatsOnFire) January 12, 2023

WTF is Aggression %?

My thoughts exactly. How do they generate a rating for it as well?

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Just imagine the hype if this dude sustains his current level of play during a deep playoff run. His face will be everywhere, and he'll deserve it.

Winning playoff games is tough, so I'll take wins any way we can get them. But yeah, if we're winning and he keeps doing what he's been doing, his stardom will rise very quickly. So far I think there are a good amount of people still dismissing this as Purdy getting carried by the defense and run game, because that's been the narrative for Jimmy for so long. If you're not watching Niners games and just looking at stats, it's not all that impressive. But for those of us who are actually watching, it's obviously a different story.

I don't know about that. His efficiency stats are near the top of the league across the board.

And now that we've had a few games, the stats have finally caught up with the eye test with respect to down the field passing. Brock's completed air yards per pass attempt is 5.9, while Jimmy's is 4.8. His completed air yards per pass attempt is 3.9 compared to 3.2 for Jimmy. Not slamming Jimmy, just pointing out his numbers as a reference point to compare in order to highlight just how good even the advanced stats look for Purdy. Granted, neither one of those numbers are elite (CAY/PA would be tied with Lamar Jackson for 14th), but they do represent an improvement in the offense in terms of quarterback contribution to big passing plays. And that means defenses are having to cover slightly deeper routes.

I meant more so the casual fan looking at yards, TD's, etc. They aren't eye popping fantasy numbers, essentially. I 100% agree that from an efficiency standpoint, he has been stellar. If anything, he has carried the defense which has looked very average towards the end of the season.

Yes the eye test is obvious that he's been an improvement over Jimmy, especially down field. Those are significant differences that you're pointing out as well which backs up what we're all seeing.

some post tweets like this and claim Brock is just Jimmy

Jimmy Garoppolo vs Brock Purdy, per @NextGenStats:

Time to throw: Brock 2.84, Jimmy 2.66
Air Yards/Completion: Brock 5.9, Jimmy 4.7
Air Yards/Attempt: Brock 6.7, Jimmy 6.8
Aggression %: Brock 9.4%, Jimmy 14%#49ers

— Rob "Stats" Guerrera (@StatsOnFire) January 12, 2023

WTF is Aggression %?

It is when you go "Grrrrr" as you throw the ball

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Just imagine the hype if this dude sustains his current level of play during a deep playoff run. His face will be everywhere, and he'll deserve it.

Winning playoff games is tough, so I'll take wins any way we can get them. But yeah, if we're winning and he keeps doing what he's been doing, his stardom will rise very quickly. So far I think there are a good amount of people still dismissing this as Purdy getting carried by the defense and run game, because that's been the narrative for Jimmy for so long. If you're not watching Niners games and just looking at stats, it's not all that impressive. But for those of us who are actually watching, it's obviously a different story.

I don't know about that. His efficiency stats are near the top of the league across the board.

And now that we've had a few games, the stats have finally caught up with the eye test with respect to down the field passing. Brock's completed air yards per pass attempt is 5.9, while Jimmy's is 4.8. His completed air yards per pass attempt is 3.9 compared to 3.2 for Jimmy. Not slamming Jimmy, just pointing out his numbers as a reference point to compare in order to highlight just how good even the advanced stats look for Purdy. Granted, neither one of those numbers are elite (CAY/PA would be tied with Lamar Jackson for 14th), but they do represent an improvement in the offense in terms of quarterback contribution to big passing plays. And that means defenses are having to cover slightly deeper routes.

I meant more so the casual fan looking at yards, TD's, etc. They aren't eye popping fantasy numbers, essentially. I 100% agree that from an efficiency standpoint, he has been stellar. If anything, he has carried the defense which has looked very average towards the end of the season.

Yes the eye test is obvious that he's been an improvement over Jimmy, especially down field. Those are significant differences that you're pointing out as well which backs up what we're all seeing.

some post tweets like this and claim Brock is just Jimmy

Jimmy Garoppolo vs Brock Purdy, per @NextGenStats:

Time to throw: Brock 2.84, Jimmy 2.66
Air Yards/Completion: Brock 5.9, Jimmy 4.7
Air Yards/Attempt: Brock 6.7, Jimmy 6.8
Aggression %: Brock 9.4%, Jimmy 14%#49ers

— Rob "Stats" Guerrera (@StatsOnFire) January 12, 2023

Exactly. Seeing a crap ton of nonsense like this. I mean I was huge Jimmy fan but WTF are people hanging onto? Lol

Originally posted by Goatie:
It is when you go "Grrrrr" as you throw the ball

Originally posted by libertyforever:
fivethirtyeight.com/features/brock-purdy-was-mr-irrelevant-now-hes-mr-impossible/

Great find!

"Perhaps you prefer a measure of overall efficiency? Purdy's passer rating of 107.3 is the best ever for a rookie with 50 or more pass attempts. Or maybe you don't like raw passer rating (I can't really fault you). Purdy is also tops all time in rookie Passer Rating Index,1 which adjusts for player era, beating out Marino by 3 points (128 vs. 125). He's also first in adjusted yards per attempt index, besting Roethlisberger by 1 point (127 to 126)."

Passer Rating Index (adjusts for player era) sounds quite intriguing.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Just imagine the hype if this dude sustains his current level of play during a deep playoff run. His face will be everywhere, and he'll deserve it.

Winning playoff games is tough, so I'll take wins any way we can get them. But yeah, if we're winning and he keeps doing what he's been doing, his stardom will rise very quickly. So far I think there are a good amount of people still dismissing this as Purdy getting carried by the defense and run game, because that's been the narrative for Jimmy for so long. If you're not watching Niners games and just looking at stats, it's not all that impressive. But for those of us who are actually watching, it's obviously a different story.

I don't know about that. His efficiency stats are near the top of the league across the board.

And now that we've had a few games, the stats have finally caught up with the eye test with respect to down the field passing. Brock's completed air yards per pass attempt is 5.9, while Jimmy's is 4.8. His completed air yards per pass attempt is 3.9 compared to 3.2 for Jimmy. Not slamming Jimmy, just pointing out his numbers as a reference point to compare in order to highlight just how good even the advanced stats look for Purdy. Granted, neither one of those numbers are elite (CAY/PA would be tied with Lamar Jackson for 14th), but they do represent an improvement in the offense in terms of quarterback contribution to big passing plays. And that means defenses are having to cover slightly deeper routes.

I meant more so the casual fan looking at yards, TD's, etc. They aren't eye popping fantasy numbers, essentially. I 100% agree that from an efficiency standpoint, he has been stellar. If anything, he has carried the defense which has looked very average towards the end of the season.

Yes the eye test is obvious that he's been an improvement over Jimmy, especially down field. Those are significant differences that you're pointing out as well which backs up what we're all seeing.

some post tweets like this and claim Brock is just Jimmy

Jimmy Garoppolo vs Brock Purdy, per @NextGenStats:

Time to throw: Brock 2.84, Jimmy 2.66
Air Yards/Completion: Brock 5.9, Jimmy 4.7
Air Yards/Attempt: Brock 6.7, Jimmy 6.8
Aggression %: Brock 9.4%, Jimmy 14%#49ers

— Rob "Stats" Guerrera (@StatsOnFire) January 12, 2023

Exactly. Seeing a crap ton of nonsense like this. I mean I was huge Jimmy fan but WTF are people hanging onto? Lol

I would think the aggression stat is throwing the ball in extra tight windows. Jimmy was very good at that down the middle. Purdy will get better at it as he gains NFL experience and knowledge of Kyle's scheme. But Purdy is better in a lot of other ways such as accuracy on deeper balls and pocket mobility, that 10 yard burst out of danger or threw a lane.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Exactly. Seeing a crap ton of nonsense like this. I mean I was huge Jimmy fan but WTF are people hanging onto? Lol

The past

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
fivethirtyeight.com/features/brock-purdy-was-mr-irrelevant-now-hes-mr-impossible/

Great find!

"Perhaps you prefer a measure of overall efficiency? Purdy's passer rating of 107.3 is the best ever for a rookie with 50 or more pass attempts. Or maybe you don't like raw passer rating (I can't really fault you). Purdy is also tops all time in rookie Passer Rating Index,1 which adjusts for player era, beating out Marino by 3 points (128 vs. 125). He's also first in adjusted yards per attempt index, besting Roethlisberger by 1 point (127 to 126)."

Passer Rating Index (adjusts for player era) sounds quite intriguing.

Yep. It is important to adjust for the player era when we are comparing players across multiple decades.

FiveThirtyEight looked into so many different stats and all of them are great for Purdy.

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
WTF is Aggression %?

It's the size of Brock's Bomb Cyclone; quantified

I would like to see another metric called WTF %; percentage of plays that are WTF plays

What really sucks for BCB is that he can't get paid until 2026 until after the 3rd year of his rookie deal