QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Wrap your minds around it. They are better with their 3rd string QB lol.

Kid is good!

i really think what hes doing is very unusual, which is changing shannys strategic idea. were not running shanny offense any more. were doing some thing else. were scoring touchdowns. thats not the shanaplan. its wild.

Originally posted by Poldarn49:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Poldarn49:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by tankle104:

the 10 fastest ball carriers from yesterday from Next Gen Stats. Christian McCaffrey was the fastest. Checks out. He can fly. Deebo was 3rd. Makes sense. His acceleration is insane. Brandon Aiyuk snuck into the top 10. Not a big surprise. But...Brock Purdy getting to 19 mph? pic.twitter.com/XSuKIZT3vM

— KP (@KP_Show) January 15, 2023

Dirty Purdy with the wheels! Finally have found an accurate qb from the pocket and has the ability to be mobile. It's a beautiful thing!!!

Yes! Not a surprise though, he has elite short distance burst for a QB.

Assuming he accelerates to that speed in 1.55s (his 10-yard split), 19.21 mph corresponds to 4.75s 40-yard time. FWIW.

That was an impressive game speed for a QB. I don't think it make sense to convert that to 40 yard time. It doesn't work that way.

My point is that it is faster that his combine time (4.84). With the ball in the hand,

Correct me if I am wrong, the Next gen measured the fastest speed at a point in time. It doesn't mean Purdy can maintain that top speed for 40 yards, so converting from next gen stat to 40 yard dash doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This throw was terrifying

Football Gods was on our side for sure. I believe just a week ago Diggs picked off a pass exactly like this one. I'm sure we will clean this one up in the film room this week because to get #6 we can't have these throws in these next few weeks. https://t.co/dSc0FGlt5A

— Larry Grant (@LarryGrant95) January 15, 2023

Not sure if intended, but that pass dropped low really helped not giving Diggs a chance at the ball. I like to think so from Brock to protect his receiver.

Should have been placed up the sideline. I feel like I saw 4 or 5 balls hit a defender in the hand's yesterday and people in here are acting like it didn't happen lol. He ran an offense with the most stacked players in the league and with an amazing play caller.

I'm not s**tting on Brock, I'm team BCB & I think he made some amazing plays, plus he has this team rolling…but I think he's been getting away with some stuff right now too.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
i really think what hes doing is very unusual, which is changing shannys strategic idea. were not running shanny offense any more. were doing some thing else. were scoring touchdowns. thats not the shanaplan. its wild.

Lol no they are running Kyle's offense. It's heavy play-action with a ton of in breaking routes. It's concepts he's been running forever. Nothing is different, guys are STILL getting wide open. Difference is Brock can make plays when s**t breaks down. He's not taking the first read then pooping his pants if it's not there.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
The only reason people are hesitant about Purdy is because of where he was drafted. Had he been selected in the first round, especially top 10, he'd be regarded as the next great QB. Same reason that anyone is saying Trey should have a chance to compete for the starting job. Flop their draft slot and no one would even be mentioning Trey.

Well why was he drafted last? Because he doesn't have elite arm talent, size and there wasn't improving while in college.

Trey does have elite arm talent and size. It has to do with who COULD be better long-term, not who's best right now.

purdy has shown that he can play and having 1,500 passing attempts before stepping on the field has been beneficial. Who's got the highest upside? I mean objectively it's Lance. Doesn't mean he will never get there.

brock is doing his thing so let's just chill on what needs to be done next yr.

No, actually it's not. When are you going to learn what that word means? Yours is, in fact, a completely subjective opinion which fails to recognize all of the variables that might determine how someone else might view what a player's ceiling is and whose is comparatively higher. Just because Lance might be physically stronger and have a bigger arm doesn't mean he will play the position as well as Purdy. Lance's story isn't written yet. He may in fact turn out to be great but, at the moment, he is definitely playing from behind the sticks in terms of next year.

Objectively or subjectively, I don't agree that we can say that "Trey has more upside." Why because he has a better arm? Is taller? Has a better 40 time? If we did a draft of all QB's under 25 years old, where would Purdy be drafted vs. Trey? As many have mentioned, playing QB is about so much more than physical traits.

The idea with Trey is that he's still mold-able, because he hasn't played enough to have set bad habits. However, Purdy has played so well that there is no incentive for the 49ers to spend extra resources helping him do that. Which means it's on Trey and the normal coaching he would receive to maximize his physical gifts by developing that mental side.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This throw was terrifying

Football Gods was on our side for sure. I believe just a week ago Diggs picked off a pass exactly like this one. I'm sure we will clean this one up in the film room this week because to get #6 we can't have these throws in these next few weeks. https://t.co/dSc0FGlt5A

— Larry Grant (@LarryGrant95) January 15, 2023

Not sure if intended, but that pass dropped low really helped not giving Diggs a chance at the ball. I like to think so from Brock to protect his receiver.

Should have been placed up the sideline. I feel like I saw 4 or 5 balls hit a defender in the hand's yesterday and people in here are acting like it didn't happen lol. He ran an offense with the most stacked players in the league and with an amazing play caller.

I'm not s**tting on Brock, I'm team BCB & I think he made some amazing plays, plus he has this team rolling…but I think he's been getting away with some stuff right now too.

some of those throws in the middle i'm glad we got away with.. the deeper stuff could have been a wet ball.. Purdy confirmed one of his passes was due to a wet ball

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
This throw was terrifying

49ers got lucky here. You typically can't get away with this going inside. This needs to be outside the numbers. Great concentration by Jennings pic.twitter.com/iWDV5HSUNU

— CROCKPOT🤴🏾 (@eric_crocker) January 14, 2023

Not sure if intended, but that pass dropped low really helped not giving Diggs a chance at the ball. I like to think so from Brock to protect his receiver.

Just now seeing this angle but yes. If that DB just plays the ball it's an easy INT. And around the goal line he certainly should have because it's all or nothing.

Lol wut. He got there too late to make a play on the ball, even with it being too far inside. Yes it "should" have been more outside and would have been a touchdown. These types of throws happen every game to every QB. But the bottom line is it was a completed deep pass that the Jimmy detractors have been asking for for years. Now that we're seeing them on a regular basis, we're going to nitpick ball placement on completed passes? Doesn't make any sense. Just wait until Purdy throws 3 INT's and we lose, and then come in here and gloat, I mean criticize.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
i really think what hes doing is very unusual, which is changing shannys strategic idea. were not running shanny offense any more. were doing some thing else. were scoring touchdowns. thats not the shanaplan. its wild.

This IS Shanahan's offense, the concepts are the same. It's just the most confidence he's had in a quarterback during his time with the 49ers. To come out firing with deep passes in the first half, and to keep dialing them up when things weren't going perfectly speaks volumes.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Wrap your minds around it. They are better with their 3rd string QB lol.

Kid is good!

i really think what hes doing is very unusual, which is changing shannys strategic idea. were not running shanny offense any more. were doing some thing else. were scoring touchdowns. thats not the shanaplan. its wild.

We're still running the Shanahan offense, it's just that Purdy is running it significantly better than his predecessor.

I've seen McCaffrey making the wrong cut on a number of run plays, but those plays will never be as thoroughly dissected by the same group of "unbiased" posters as Brock's "near interceptions".

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Wrap your minds around it. They are better with their 3rd string QB lol.

Kid is good!

i really think what hes doing is very unusual, which is changing shannys strategic idea. were not running shanny offense any more. were doing some thing else. were scoring touchdowns. thats not the shanaplan. its wild.

What we're seeing here is MUCH closer to what he ran in Atlanta. This is what Shanahan wants to run, and was unable to because his QB wasn't ideally suited to it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
i really think what hes doing is very unusual, which is changing shannys strategic idea. were not running shanny offense any more. were doing some thing else. were scoring touchdowns. thats not the shanaplan. its wild.

Lol no they are running Kyle's offense. It's heavy play-action with a ton of in breaking routes. It's concepts he's been running forever.

yet none of our tds are on inbreaking routes. deebo down the side juan down the side. tds on scoot n' duck pocket extenders. brock is making tds out of these plays that no one has since shanny got here. its like shanny putting out the same jigsaw puzzle pieces but brock putting them together a different way. its wild

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by Koldo:
This should put the whole "let Brock and Trey compete during the offseason for the starting job" conversation to rest.

There was only like 2 or 3 posters who really wanted that.

I think there are more than 2 or 3. Kyle is going to let them compete. How is Trey going to get better if he's not allowed to compete. That doesn't mean he'll win the competition. That's highly unlikely at this point but they may need him next year if Purdy gets hurt. Let's hope they compete in camp and both of them get better.

yeah, iron sharpens iron. Trey needs to be given the chance to compete. at the very least for his development and for his reps. even if Brock is the guaranteed starter in people's heads

No. Trey needs to continue to develop behind the scenes and take advantage when his next opportunity presents itself.

so give him equal reps during TC in an open QB competition.

just because Brock is playing well, doesn't mean Lance shouldn't be allowed or given the chance to compete and take the starting job away. Competition is GOOD.

well said by Phoenix

"Let them both know they are going to compete for the spot and let the chips fall where they may"

Thing is, even if Lance has the best OTA/camp ever, how can those reps compare to what Brock is putting on film, versus live bullets? I think Lance has to accept that he could very well be the backup and to keep his head down and keep improving, hoping that his chance will come.

you make a good point. maybe preseason?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
i really think what hes doing is very unusual, which is changing shannys strategic idea. were not running shanny offense any more. were doing some thing else. were scoring touchdowns. thats not the shanaplan. its wild.

Lol no they are running Kyle's offense. It's heavy play-action with a ton of in breaking routes. It's concepts he's been running forever. Nothing is different, guys are STILL getting wide open. Difference is Brock can make plays when s**t breaks down. He's not taking the first read then pooping his pants if it's not there.

Yeah, I really think it's the same offense but Purdy attacks the plays differently. I love Jimmy but players like jimmy, Geno, Dak etc - they're all good quarterbacks but also game managers (good ones). They take what the defense gives them, meaning they don't push the offense down the field or typically go for tight window throws.

what Purdy is doing is wayyy more than just "handing the ball to play makers" - he's making plays and giving our guys opportunities to make big plays. We are scoring so much cause Brock is aggressive and confident, while also being smart with his high football IQ to mitigate turnovers. I really think we finally found the elite qb we have been desiring.. and he's on a rookie scale contract for 3 more seasons..

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by Koldo:
This should put the whole "let Brock and Trey compete during the offseason for the starting job" conversation to rest.

There was only like 2 or 3 posters who really wanted that.

I think there are more than 2 or 3. Kyle is going to let them compete. How is Trey going to get better if he's not allowed to compete. That doesn't mean he'll win the competition. That's highly unlikely at this point but they may need him next year if Purdy gets hurt. Let's hope they compete in camp and both of them get better.

yeah, iron sharpens iron. Trey needs to be given the chance to compete. at the very least for his development and for his reps. even if Brock is the guaranteed starter in people's heads

No. Trey needs to continue to develop behind the scenes and take advantage when his next opportunity presents itself.

so give him equal reps during TC in an open QB competition.

just because Brock is playing well, doesn't mean Lance shouldn't be allowed or given the chance to compete and take the starting job away. Competition is GOOD.

well said by Phoenix

"Let them both know they are going to compete for the spot and let the chips fall where they may"

Thing is, even if Lance has the best OTA/camp ever, how can those reps compare to what Brock is putting on film, versus live bullets? I think Lance has to accept that he could very well be the backup and to keep his head down and keep improving, hoping that his chance will come.

you make a good point. maybe preseason?

I don't want this to happen, but I could see Lance requesting a trade. Going into his third season - he may want a chance go prove he can play so his fourth year option is picked up by someone - we won't accept $20M for a backup.

lances trade value is at its highest right now too because of where his contract is at. Factor in 2 years of shanny decelopment - I can see the falcons trading a lot for him. I heard they really wanted to draft him.

id rather keep him as an awesome backup but his $10M and the trade picks would be very helpful