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Originally posted by Wubbie:
People need to have more nuance than just labeling something as only good or bad---

Firstly, I think we can all agree that it was a good decision. It was a good throw that resulted in a big gain.
But if it was a BETTER throw, where he placed the ball to the sidelines, it's a less contested catch. The receiver (Jennings?) probably can catch that ball and waltz into the endzone.

I think people take it to one extreme or the other. Purdy played well overall but he left a bunch of yards and points out on the field as well. Being a rookie, especially a 7th round rookie, I think you can forgive a lot of that, especially in the first half when nerves may have been getting the best of him but there are absolutely things that he needs to clean up if he's going to be a long term solution and not just a flash in the pan.

My biggest issue was the errant throws across the middle after locking on to a target. If Seattle's LB's weren't ass, if the 49ers face a team with more disciplined LB's, they will make him pay for passes like that. He's going to need to be more careful because teams will try to bait him into those in the future.

You can be happy with how he's played and acknowledge that he's still got a lot of room for improvement.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
f**k this guy lol

Wasn't bad but wasn't great. Kind of like the pick vs the Raiders.

Things to work on

A better throw would be a TD, but it wasn't bad
a bad throw wouldn't be a completion

People need to have more nuance than just labeling something as only good or bad---

Firstly, I think we can all agree that it was a good decision. It was a good throw that resulted in a big gain.
But if it was a BETTER throw, where he placed the ball to the sidelines, it's a less contested catch. The receiver (Jennings?) probably can catch that ball and waltz into the endzone.

I initially thought it was picked! Haha I was stressin! But I agree with your assessment.

To me, the most assuring thing I've seen from Purdy's supposed "bad" plays are that many of them are the right decision... but some of them could have better ball placement.

In time, you assume his mechanics would improve in between off-seasons, and as he gains more experience... he gets a stronger understanding of where he needs to place the ball.
What worries me about the Bucs is 1. Playoff Brady.
But mainly that even during our game with then, Brady missed a few wide open passes and they dropped some easy ones. The Bucs made a lot of mistakes early and dug themselves a hole. If they completed those (like the one to evans that Brady just missed completely).

id rather play dips**t dak
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Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
It's more than he has Kyle, Kyle also has him. I dare anyone to lie and say this offense is not totally different then it were with Jimmy. Kyle is gaining confidence he has a guy where he can finally move from Jimmy Dinks and Dunks. It is so obvious Kyle is calling a more aggressive game and maybe after a bunch of years he can be the play caller he's wanted to be.

And when the play doesn't work he doesn't stick his turtle head into his shell like in the past. He has confidence in Brock to go right back there again.

It's not very different. It's just being executed at a higher level. Biggest difference is taking advantage of the bootlegs.

This. And the problem with Jimmy's game wasn't dinking and dunking... because Purdy and all other QB's do that. A dumpoff to CMC is not a bad option, and largely, our offense is predicated on YAC. Our offensive scheme hasn't changed to a wide open offense. The big chunk plays we hit in the last game are throws that Jimmy has made as well.
If anything, the 2 major problem for Jimmy were that he didn't have the timing/accuracy on his deep throws... and that he was OVERaggressive and would turn the ball over in pivotal moments... which is why many suspect that Shanahan doesn't trust Jimmy in certain situations. The interception he threw against Dallas last year was just killer because he was trying to make a play that wasn't there.

Purdy's definitely upgraded the offense, but I think fans need to be more accurate in why he's an upgrade.
  • He has better accuracy/timing on intermediate/deep routes, thus we're hitting more explosives.
  • He has great improvisational ability, which is allowing him to make plays off-schedule. The touchdown pass to Elijah Mitchell is a good example of this.-- He was trying to hit Aiyuk to his left, but Bruce Irvin flashed in his face... he moved away and immediately found Mitchell wide open and threw a good pass to him while on the run, for a walk-in TD.
  • You add all that together with the playcalling and the surrounding cast... defenses have been very on their heels and why we're averaging 37+ the past four games.

Kyle is letting Purdy throw in situations that he'd NEVER let Jimmy or any QB throw. This is after Matt Ryan embarrassed him in the Super Bowl when he trusted Ryan to make the right play and he choked. Kyle WANTS to be aggressive and go for the kill shot. But he didn't trust Jimmy to do that. The play calling is VERY different.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
f**k this guy lol

He seems to be hating a little bit.



[ Edited by 49ersRing on Jan 15, 2023 at 9:45 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
People need to have more nuance than just labeling something as only good or bad---

Firstly, I think we can all agree that it was a good decision. It was a good throw that resulted in a big gain.
But if it was a BETTER throw, where he placed the ball to the sidelines, it's a less contested catch. The receiver (Jennings?) probably can catch that ball and waltz into the endzone.

I think people take it to one extreme or the other. Purdy played well overall but he left a bunch of yards and points out on the field as well. Being a rookie, especially a 7th round rookie, I think you can forgive a lot of that, especially in the first half when nerves may have been getting the best of him but there are absolutely things that he needs to clean up if he's going to be a long term solution and not just a flash in the pan.

My biggest issue was the errant throws across the middle after locking on to a target. If Seattle's LB's weren't ass, if the 49ers face a team with more disciplined LB's, they will make him pay for passes like that. He's going to need to be more careful because teams will try to bait him into those in the future.

You can be happy with how he's played and acknowledge that he's still got a lot of room for improvement.

Definitely, there's this weird extreme where people either look at Purdy as only being successful due to Shanahan/surrounding cast and don't recognize Purdy's balling out himself... and then the other extreme where people are anointing him as the franchise QB for the next 10 years.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
f**k this guy lol

Wasn't bad but wasn't great. Kind of like the pick vs the Raiders.

Things to work on

A better throw would be a TD, but it wasn't bad
a bad throw wouldn't be a completion

People need to have more nuance than just labeling something as only good or bad---

Firstly, I think we can all agree that it was a good decision. It was a good throw that resulted in a big gain.
But if it was a BETTER throw, where he placed the ball to the sidelines, it's a less contested catch. The receiver (Jennings?) probably can catch that ball and waltz into the endzone.

I initially thought it was picked! Haha I was stressin! But I agree with your assessment.
i thought he was hit first before the catch and then we scored lol
Just glad no other team got him lol

What if he was picked by the Rams? SEA? LV? which is still Oak imo. I refuse to accept Raiders as a Nevada team haha. Get out with that lol.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
f**k this guy lol

He seems to be hating a little bit.



Mmm... at the end of the day, what's most important is that the offense generates points. And the offense has averaged 30+ ppg since he's entered the lineup, with the last four games at 37+ ppg.
Originally posted by Montana:
Just glad no other team got him lol

What if he was picked by the Rams? SEA? LV? which is still Oak imo. I refuse to accept Raiders as a Nevada team haha. Get out with that lol.

Good thing ww put em on the roster even though we had two qbs already. Damn. So many what ifs.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
f**k this guy lol

He seems to be hating a little bit.



felt like i was reading your posts Ring
Originally posted by Montana:
Just glad no other team got him lol

What if he was picked by the Rams? SEA? LV? which is still Oak imo. I refuse to accept Raiders as a Nevada team haha. Get out with that lol.
most of the time players need to be in the right spot and with the right team.
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
f**k this guy lol

He seems to be hating a little bit.




It's like he doesn't realize that Purdy's ability to move in the pocket and extend plays out of the pocket gives him more time to throw and more time for his WR's to get open.
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Montana:
Just glad no other team got him lol

What if he was picked by the Rams? SEA? LV? which is still Oak imo. I refuse to accept Raiders as a Nevada team haha. Get out with that lol.

Good thing ww put em on the roster even though we had two qbs already. Damn. So many what ifs.

Yeah no way was he going to make it to the practice squad.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
f**k this guy lol

He seems to be hating a little bit.



felt like i was reading your posts Ring

I mean, it IS true that our receivers were super wide open off the play action crossers.
But yeesh... his posts sound like he has such an agenda for Purdy to fail.
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