QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:
That's a strong statement! A couple weeks ago I said I'd take Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, and Herbert over him and that's it. After watching more of Allen and Herbert the past few weeks, I'm crossing them off that list. Disclaimer so people don't lose their minds lol - I'm talking about with this team, Kyle, etc. Purdy just FITS.

Hahahaha looks like I got you 😏. I was just one upping NFN.

i definitely think burrow and Mahomes are better than Purdy, at least right now. Herbert has a great skill set but there is something about his game I'm not a big fan of (maybes it the coaching/scheme?) but I really don't like his throwing motion - it's a super weird angle

the Josh allen one is interesting because Allen is obviously a really good quarterback. He isn't playing as clean and precise as he was under Daboll (now the giants HC). So it's interesting to see him regress some.

Also, I know this isn't exactly accurate to what would of happened, but it's the best data we have. Purdy was on track to have a 39 TD & 9 INT (excluding the KC pick in garbage time). So that's nothing to sneeze at.
Purdy is going to come out playing out of his mind next season after a full off season of training and reviewing his film. I'm not saying Purdy is better than Allen right now, just don't know if I'd trade them at this point.

Oh okay lol. I think Mahomes is special and works in any system. Same as Burrow. Why I put them over Purdy. But the rest have flaws that we just haven't seen from Purdy nor do I think we will see. There's enough tape on him that DC's have thrown it all at him and he still finds the open WR and makes the smart play.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Nobody is giving you the 8th pick for Lance. Come on. He's proven to be less accurate than advertised. He runs like a fat fullback despite all the speed hype. He's injury prone. He largely hasn't played football for the most part in 3 years. 1 College (Covid) and 2 pro years. 1 backup behind Jimmy G and 1 injury year. Nobody would give a 1st rounder for this. They would be crazy to do so. Especially not a high one.

Let's hope they're crazy! I didn't think a team would give Watson a huge contract with it all guaranteed - crazy stuff happens! Never know

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Nobody is giving you the 8th pick for Lance. Come on. He's proven to be less accurate than advertised. He runs like a fat fullback despite all the speed hype. He's injury prone. He largely hasn't played football for the most part in 3 years. 1 College (Covid) and 2 pro years. 1 backup behind Jimmy G and 1 injury year. Nobody would give a 1st rounder for this. They would be crazy to do so. Especially not a high one.

Let's hope they're crazy! I didn't think a team would give Watson a huge contract with it all guaranteed - crazy stuff happens! Never know

Yeah but it would be crazy at this point. You got to admit. LOL.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Oh okay lol. I think Mahomes is special and works in any system. Same as Burrow. Why I put them over Purdy. But the rest have flaws that we just haven't seen from Purdy nor do I think we will see. There's enough tape on him that DC's have thrown it all at him and he still finds the open WR and makes the smart play.

Burrow is the man. I'm a big fan of his. His senior year in college was like playing madden on rookie mode - unreal.

even Chuck Pagano, pat macafee show, said that all you need is 3 or so game of film to figure people out etc. so, Purdy isn't a gimmick - this isn't like when we started doing read option and no one knew what the hell to do yet. (Not an insult to kap - please don't turn it into that. I blame Greg Roman).

so, Purdy isn't going to just fall off a Cliff and forgot how to play football or read defenses. I think he does similar work this off season as he did last - and improves his arm again.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Nobody is giving you the 8th pick for Lance. Come on. He's proven to be less accurate than advertised. He runs like a fat fullback despite all the speed hype. He's injury prone. He largely hasn't played football for the most part in 3 years. 1 College (Covid) and 2 pro years. 1 backup behind Jimmy G and 1 injury year. Nobody would give a 1st rounder for this. They would be crazy to do so. Especially not a high one.

Let's hope they're crazy! I didn't think a team would give Watson a huge contract with it all guaranteed - crazy stuff happens! Never know

Yeah but it would be crazy at this point. You got to admit. LOL.

I don't think it's that crazy. The NFL draft is a crapshoot and Trey has shown enough in his small sample size that he can be successful in the NFL. Just needs to not run QB power 17-20 times a game.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
HES BETTER THAN MONTANA AND MAHOMES AND WILSON BLENDED TOGETHER.

I agree.

That's how he played the last game like a combo of Joe Cool and Pat Mahomes

If this isn't the time of year for relentless optimism I don't know what is

We got the team folks.. put #6 on the calendar

ANOTHER DAY CLOSER

Purdy makes it more optimistic than the last SB. Better footwork, better accuracy and no "Jeezis, Jimmy!" moments

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Oh okay lol. I think Mahomes is special and works in any system. Same as Burrow. Why I put them over Purdy. But the rest have flaws that we just haven't seen from Purdy nor do I think we will see. There's enough tape on him that DC's have thrown it all at him and he still finds the open WR and makes the smart play.

Burrow is the man. I'm a big fan of his. His senior year in college was like playing madden on rookie mode - unreal.

even Chuck Pagano, pat macafee show, said that all you need is 3 or so game of film to figure people out etc. so, Purdy isn't a gimmick - this isn't like when we started doing read option and no one knew what the hell to do yet. (Not an insult to kap - please don't turn it into that. I blame Greg Roman).

so, Purdy isn't going to just fall off a Cliff and forgot how to play football or read defenses. I think he does similar work this off season as he did last - and improves his arm again.

Agreed. The best part is the things that separate Purdy are VERY sustainable. His IQ, decision making, accuracy, etc - can all be worked on and maintained over time. Yes he'll lose some athletic burst as he gets older but it's not like he's running around like Lamar Jackson.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Nobody is giving you the 8th pick for Lance. Come on. He's proven to be less accurate than advertised. He runs like a fat fullback despite all the speed hype. He's injury prone. He largely hasn't played football for the most part in 3 years. 1 College (Covid) and 2 pro years. 1 backup behind Jimmy G and 1 injury year. Nobody would give a 1st rounder for this. They would be crazy to do so. Especially not a high one.

Let's hope they're crazy! I didn't think a team would give Watson a huge contract with it all guaranteed - crazy stuff happens! Never know

Yeah but it would be crazy at this point. You got to admit. LOL.

It just depends on if anyone else wants him. The tough part is - where will the QBs in this draft drop and how do people feel about them.

i think a team like the falcons would do that, especially if they already really wanted him in the draft, because now he has 2 years of training under kyle and you want to see how he plays before the end of next year, so you know to use the fifth year option or not - that way you don't end up like the giants and not use the fifth year option and have to pay him a lot this off season

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Nobody is giving you the 8th pick for Lance. Come on. He's proven to be less accurate than advertised. He runs like a fat fullback despite all the speed hype. He's injury prone. He largely hasn't played football for the most part in 3 years. 1 College (Covid) and 2 pro years. 1 backup behind Jimmy G and 1 injury year. Nobody would give a 1st rounder for this. They would be crazy to do so. Especially not a high one.

Let's hope they're crazy! I didn't think a team would give Watson a huge contract with it all guaranteed - crazy stuff happens! Never know

Yeah but it would be crazy at this point. You got to admit. LOL.

I don't think it's that crazy. The NFL draft is a crapshoot and Trey has shown enough in his small sample size that he can be successful in the NFL. Just needs to not run QB power 17-20 times a game.

No one is giving a Top 10 pick for Lance, let alone a 1st rounder. He's played fewer than ten games in three years. He's going to be on the third year of his rookie contract while still being an unknown quantity.

If the 49ers got lucky, they might be able to convince someone to swap a 2nd and change for him. He hasn't proven a thing in the NFL and that is why he won't have more value to any other team than he does for the 49ers in case Purdy ends up flopping or getting hurt next season.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Agreed. The best part is the things that separate Purdy are VERY sustainable. His IQ, decision making, accuracy, etc - can all be worked on and maintained over time. Yes he'll lose some athletic burst as he gets older but it's not like he's running around like Lamar Jackson.

The key to maintaining his mobility will be avoiding dumb hits. I like that we don't run designed qb runs with him. I HATE when we do that. We just abuse our QBs body for no reason - run a WR/TE/RB/FB. Lol we have the best to do it.

once you have 3-4 seasons of taking hits on those plays, the injuries/soreness lingers and lingers. Making you more unhealthy as the year goes on. And you can bet that physical hits to the legs and everything will eventually play a factor in worse mechanics etc as the season goes on.

I don't mind QB sneaks when they're close. I don't mind him taking off and running if nothing is there (like he did for a first down last weekend). I hope he knows how ti protect himself and avoid big hits.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Nobody is giving you the 8th pick for Lance. Come on. He's proven to be less accurate than advertised. He runs like a fat fullback despite all the speed hype. He's injury prone. He largely hasn't played football for the most part in 3 years. 1 College (Covid) and 2 pro years. 1 backup behind Jimmy G and 1 injury year. Nobody would give a 1st rounder for this. They would be crazy to do so. Especially not a high one.

Let's hope they're crazy! I didn't think a team would give Watson a huge contract with it all guaranteed - crazy stuff happens! Never know

Yeah but it would be crazy at this point. You got to admit. LOL.

I don't think it's that crazy. The NFL draft is a crapshoot and Trey has shown enough in his small sample size that he can be successful in the NFL. Just needs to not run QB power 17-20 times a game.

No one is giving a Top 10 pick for Lance, let alone a 1st rounder. He's played fewer than ten games in three years. He's going to be on the third year of his rookie contract while still being an unknown quantity.

If the 49ers got lucky, they might be able to convince someone to swap a 2nd and change for him. He hasn't proven a thing in the NFL and that is why he won't have more value to any other team than he does for the 49ers in case Purdy ends up flopping or getting hurt next season.

Let me dream, Phoenix! 😭😭

i do think that's the only way kyle let's go if him though, is for a really nice package if picks - otherwise, he would rather have the back up. I know I would

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Nobody is giving you the 8th pick for Lance. Come on. He's proven to be less accurate than advertised. He runs like a fat fullback despite all the speed hype. He's injury prone. He largely hasn't played football for the most part in 3 years. 1 College (Covid) and 2 pro years. 1 backup behind Jimmy G and 1 injury year. Nobody would give a 1st rounder for this. They would be crazy to do so. Especially not a high one.

Let's hope they're crazy! I didn't think a team would give Watson a huge contract with it all guaranteed - crazy stuff happens! Never know

Yeah but it would be crazy at this point. You got to admit. LOL.

I don't think it's that crazy. The NFL draft is a crapshoot and Trey has shown enough in his small sample size that he can be successful in the NFL. Just needs to not run QB power 17-20 times a game.

The Giants had Daniel Jones run the ball 120 in this regular season, and he stay healthy all season. Justin Fields 160 times. They are about the same size as Trey.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
The Giants had Daniel Jones run the ball 120 in this regular season, and he stay healthy all season. Justin Fields 160 times. They are about the same size as Trey.

I just posted about something similar. I really don't like designed qb runs that put them in the mix of the field. I think it hurts the longevity of a career A LOT.

It's usually once you've been runnin for a few seasons when you see guys with nagging injuries and sore etc.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Agreed. The best part is the things that separate Purdy are VERY sustainable. His IQ, decision making, accuracy, etc - can all be worked on and maintained over time. Yes he'll lose some athletic burst as he gets older but it's not like he's running around like Lamar Jackson.

The key to maintaining his mobility will be avoiding dumb hits. I like that we don't run designed qb runs with him. I HATE when we do that. We just abuse our QBs body for no reason - run a WR/TE/RB/FB. Lol we have the best to do it.

once you have 3-4 seasons of taking hits on those plays, the injuries/soreness lingers and lingers. Making you more unhealthy as the year goes on. And you can bet that physical hits to the legs and everything will eventually play a factor in worse mechanics etc as the season goes on.

I don't mind QB sneaks when they're close. I don't mind him taking off and running if nothing is there (like he did for a first down last weekend). I hope he knows how ti protect himself and avoid big hits.

Agreed 100%! It has driven me nuts how many posters in here think that mobile/running QB's don't get injured/hurt more often than pocket passing QB's. Might possibly be true as far injuries where they miss games, but it's clear that running QB's fade off much younger in their careers. I'm okay with running your QB a few times a game to surprise the defense, but doing it 15+ times a game just to pick up a 3rd and 2 is insanity. Especially when you have a stable of great RB's and weapons to use (as you mentioned).

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Nobody is giving you the 8th pick for Lance. Come on. He's proven to be less accurate than advertised. He runs like a fat fullback despite all the speed hype. He's injury prone. He largely hasn't played football for the most part in 3 years. 1 College (Covid) and 2 pro years. 1 backup behind Jimmy G and 1 injury year. Nobody would give a 1st rounder for this. They would be crazy to do so. Especially not a high one.

Let's hope they're crazy! I didn't think a team would give Watson a huge contract with it all guaranteed - crazy stuff happens! Never know

Yeah but it would be crazy at this point. You got to admit. LOL.

I don't think it's that crazy. The NFL draft is a crapshoot and Trey has shown enough in his small sample size that he can be successful in the NFL. Just needs to not run QB power 17-20 times a game.

No one is giving a Top 10 pick for Lance, let alone a 1st rounder. He's played fewer than ten games in three years. He's going to be on the third year of his rookie contract while still being an unknown quantity.

If the 49ers got lucky, they might be able to convince someone to swap a 2nd and change for him. He hasn't proven a thing in the NFL and that is why he won't have more value to any other team than he does for the 49ers in case Purdy ends up flopping or getting hurt next season.

He's a starting caliber QB making $10m(ish) per season and they'd control his rights in 2 more seasons. That's worth a lot. And every draft pick is an unknown quantity; at least Trey has shown something in the NFL. Not saying it WILL happen, but it wouldn't be that crazy.