QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Brock better win this game.

This is the first legit test and team he has faced since coming in as starter. If he throws 2 TDs and 2 INTs and plays mediocre and we lose due to his play then all hets are off for next year from where I stand.

Fact is while playing at an elite level he has played terrible and mediocre defenses since coming in... MIA, TB, AZ, WSH, Raiders, and Seattle twice.

If he plays a lot worse going against a top defense in Dallas and Philly then jury is still out for me until I see him play at an elite level against top defenses next year during the season. We should be careful before crowning him the next big thing unless he at least makes it to the Super Bowl since that would be quite impressive defeating Dallas and Philly with their defenses.

I think he can do it but need to see it in reality.

I bet Brock can't sleep at night knowing he still has to live up to your expectations.

Expectations are to win Super Bowls when the roster is this insanely stacked.

With this Ferrrari he has been handed the keys to he should win the Super Bowl. No different than my expectations for Lance if he was the starter.

Too many here content with deep playoff runs when with a competent qb (like Brock has been) we win the SB in 2019 and 2021. I'd like to think with Brock we win both those Super Bowls. Well now he has the chance to prove it for real.

If this was just an above average roster the expectation would be lessened.

He is off to a good start as a playoff asset not a liability like Jimmy so that's great. Now do it against two legit teams to get to make the Super Bowl. I'm rooting for him just as hard as anyone else.

Originally posted by boast:
speaking of Montana...

Did I just spend the last 3 hours watching the reincarnation of Joe Montana? Time will tell, but tonite and the last 6 weeks have me thinking?

— Marc Trestman (@CoachTrestman) January 15, 2023

Montana was just a "system" QB playing "finesse" ball.

Talking heads have always been stupid. Trestman, while not my favorite past OC, sees the same similarities in style many of us are seeing.
Love it!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
speaking of Montana...

Did I just spend the last 3 hours watching the reincarnation of Joe Montana? Time will tell, but tonite and the last 6 weeks have me thinking?

— Marc Trestman (@CoachTrestman) January 15, 2023

Hahaha Marc Tresrman. Why in the hell are you following that dude?

think he says that if Brock isn't wearing a SF jersey

im not following Trestman.

but it's the second former HC who has said the same thing. Greg Cossell mentioned there was another one who told hm the same thing.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Holy s**t... the usual Lance Trolls got the Lance thread locked.. and now they are bringing that s**t here.

I understand why they feel comfortable doing it though. s**t happened in Kaepernick threads as well... trolls s**t it up. It gets locked instead of the folks, who were obviously posting in bad faith, got took care of.

JG thread hijacked by Alex Smith posts. A dude who hasn't played here in nearly ten years. SMH.

The conversation was about Jimmy being a success and what defines success. Just because Alex's name was brought up (by the poster who started the conversation mind you), doesnt mean the thread was "hijacked." Dramatic much?

LOL. Hmmm. Did you take my post personally? Did you think I was talking about you?

Worse, did the guy who is ABSOLUTELY FLOORED AND AMAZED, using strings of hyperbole when anyone expresses an opinion contrary to his, just come in to call me out for being dramatic? What an incredible lack of self-awareness!

Imagine not considering 4 plus pages of AS discussion in the JG thread to not be a hijack.

I participated so yes I know you were talking about me and others.

And for the record, this graphic was posted and the conversation was about QB wins.



But of course the name Alex Smith was brought up (amongst others), so of course your batsignal went up. Doesn't matter that a plethora of other QBs were discussed.

Bro, I'm not the one that was triggered when someone else said something positive about a former QB such that I had to debate the issue for 4 pages. Indeed, I didn't post about it at all in that thread. I skimmed the arguments, shook my head, and moved on. You could have done the same but didn't. Sorry if my pointing that out bothered you.

ANYWHO, can we agree that BCB is looking like a steal and a potential FQB for our Niners?

Lolol, Brock somehow helps us win the SB & some will be like..idk..he did get us the ring..but small sample size..you never know what's gunna happen next year. I mean, getting a ring is the very least thing he can do for us, nevermind if he is a rookie. I need to know, long-term wise if we have someone who is truly elite. Until I have seen him play for 5 years...I just don't know. Will let you know 5 yrs from now, what I think of him. Lol. I mean throw us a bone Purdy 💀🍖 A meaty one. Otherwise, well, I am not won over. 😏🤦

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

How good is Kyle Shanahan? Per @NextGenStats, about one third of Brock Purdy's 30 attempts against the Seahawks went to targets that had at least 5 yards of separation.

That's insane.

That's why I'm so confident in the #49ers this week.

And why I'm not all in on Brock yet.

— Rob "Stats" Guerrera (@StatsOnFire) January 18, 2023

that's pretty wild! Whatever with being sold on who, I'll worry about that next year.

Ppl deep dive into analytics and miss the forest for the trees. Did this guy not see the BA incompletion? Look at the effort of Brock on that play. He keeps the play alive for like 15 secs. Do you think DBs are gonna cover for that long a period of time or are guys gonna uncover? I see a magician back there buying extra time on his TD passes to the backs, etc.

What guy? it's a next gen stat that's all.

not sure why we have to get so defensive about everything that isn't saying Brock is Joe Montana. Our coach is putting our QBs in an amazing situation...why is that hard to accept? It's the truth.

They still got to go out there make the proper reads AND make s**t happen when those wide open plays aren't there. Brock is doing his job.

Yeah it's a next gen stat that doesn't account for anything Brock is doing to get guys open, namely buying extra time, or looking off a safety. Next gen stats like this imo are for ppl who don't watch the game or for ppl who want to push a narrative.

He then bases his entire 'I'm not confident in Brock' based on this one stat

it's funny how bringing up a W/L is so triggering to some.

Originally posted by boast:
it's funny how bringing up a W/L is so triggering to some.

For real.. it's part of the equation for evaluating QBs. NFL clubs do it all the time. The more we win with Brock the harder it will be for the actual club to move away from starting him. We all know this.

Originally posted by boast:
im not following Trestman.

but it's the second former HC who has said the same thing. Greg Cossell mentioned there was another one who told hm the same thing.

So what did you do search Brock and Montana? Sorry I put about as much stock in what he says as someone like Rex Ryan lol.

I value Cosell's opinion, he was also a massive Lance supporter. So I like that.

I see no reason to compare him to one of the best players in NFL history right now. It's silly and imo if he wasn't wearing a SF jersey I bet weren't not hearing that.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
im not following Trestman.

but it's the second former HC who has said the same thing. Greg Cossell mentioned there was another one who told hm the same thing.

So what did you do search Brock and Montana? Sorry I put about as much stock in what he says as someone like Rex Ryan lol.

I value Cosell's opinion, he was also a massive Lance supporter. So I like that.

I see no reason to compare him to one of the best players in NFL history right now. It's silly and imo if he wasn't wearing a SF jersey I bet weren't not hearing that.

it was brought up on the Haberman & Middlekauff podcast Sherlock Holmes.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yeah it's a next gen stat that doesn't account for anything Brock is doing to get guys open, namely buying extra time, or looking off a safety. Next gen stats like this imo are for ppl who don't watch the game or for ppl who want to push a narrative.

He then bases his entire 'I'm not confident in Brock' based on this one stat

I don't care what he said…stop focusing on that. if you don't think guys are getting open a ton, you're not watching the film. Same s**t was happening for Jimmy and he was simply missing those reads. Brock is playing well and of course he's doing his Brock stuff.

downplaying what EVERYONE ELSE is doing, so you can prop up Brock is being disingenuous all the same. Our team is f**king good and Brock is part of it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
im not following Trestman.

but it's the second former HC who has said the same thing. Greg Cossell mentioned there was another one who told hm the same thing.

So what did you do search Brock and Montana? Sorry I put about as much stock in what he says as someone like Rex Ryan lol.

I value Cosell's opinion, he was also a massive Lance supporter. So I like that.

I see no reason to compare him to one of the best players in NFL history right now. It's silly and imo if he wasn't wearing a SF jersey I bet weren't not hearing that.

You post random tweeters all the time but you balk when someone posts a tweet of an actual NFL coach who actually coached for the 49ers?

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:

Originally posted by boast:
speaking of Montana...

Did I just spend the last 3 hours watching the reincarnation of Joe Montana? Time will tell, but tonite and the last 6 weeks have me thinking?

— Marc Trestman (@CoachTrestman) January 15, 2023

Montana was just a "system" QB playing "finesse" ball.

Talking heads have always been stupid. Trestman, while not my favorite past OC, sees the same similarities in style many of us are seeing.
Love it!

If someone isn't trying to tear down your awesome performances, then you aren't actually good. You have to have haters - it means you're a threat. 😈.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Bro, I'm not the one that was triggered when someone else said something positive about a former QB such that I had to debate the issue for 4 pages. Indeed, I didn't post about it at all in that thread. I skimmed the arguments, shook my head, and moved on. You could have done the same but didn't. Sorry if my pointing that out bothered you.

ANYWHO, can we agree that BCB is looking like a steal and a potential FQB for our Niners?

The debate was about whether winning % meant a QB was successful or not. Like I said, multiple QBs were brought up and discussed and the only one you took issue with was Alex. That's a YOU issue.

Yes we can agree Brock looks the part of a potential franchise QB.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
im not following Trestman.

but it's the second former HC who has said the same thing. Greg Cossell mentioned there was another one who told hm the same thing.

So what did you do search Brock and Montana? Sorry I put about as much stock in what he says as someone like Rex Ryan lol.

I value Cosell's opinion, he was also a massive Lance supporter. So I like that.

I see no reason to compare him to one of the best players in NFL history right now. It's silly and imo if he wasn't wearing a SF jersey I bet weren't not hearing that.

You post random tweeters all the time but you balk when someone posts a tweet of an actual NFL coach who actually coached for the 49ers?

and theyre sometimes Fantasy Football guys at that. lol

but but but he has 46K followers!!!!