Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock Purdy can be performing very well AND ALSO not possess an elite skill set.
— Al Smizzle (@AlZeidenfeld) January 20, 2023
Those two things are not mutually exclusive. It's weird to me that this needs to be a tweet, but here we are.
You can have 70k Twitter followers AND not know wtf you're taking about.
"who the fook is that guy?"
lol this is just another Fantasy Football guy. these guys ONLY care about whether or not a player can score FANTASY points.
lol at the people saying this guy knows what he's talking about.
You can perform very well and ALSO not possess an elite skill set. Notice he said "CAN." Also noticed he referred to an entire SET,...not 1 or 2 great traits. It's all about taking your time and reading what the person's actually saying.
Given that,...he 100% knows what he's talking about in this case because it's true, so long as you're converting his words into meaning "Purdy will never be ELITE."
I know that kinda stuff happens here alot and points get lost but I'll reiterate: You don't have to be an ELITE ATHLETE (physically) to perform well at the NFL level for sustained period of time as Purdy has.
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Jan 20, 2023 at 11:12 AM
- Furlow
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Jan 20, 2023 at 11:16 AM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by Alfienator:
That second throw still puzzles me why they say he has an average arm.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zY74rPlNxLc
Wow! I think he threw that (what looked like) a 50 yard pass with ease. somebody correct me if I'm imagining things.
Jan 20, 2023 at 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by Alfienator:
That second throw still puzzles me why they say he has an average arm.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zY74rPlNxLc
That was a 50 or so yard pass which is basic at this level.
The ball placement and hitting the WR in stride is the important part of that pass.
Jan 20, 2023 at 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
That second throw still puzzles me why they say he has an average arm.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zY74rPlNxLc
That was a 50 or so yard pass which is basic at this level.
The ball placement and hitting the WR in stride is the important part of that pass.
Those are really nice throws. Accurate and plenty enough arm strength.
Jan 20, 2023 at 11:21 AM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
That second throw still puzzles me why they say he has an average arm.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zY74rPlNxLc
That was a 50 or so yard pass which is basic at this level.
The ball placement and hitting the WR in stride is the important part of that pass.
Agree 💯%, and I'll just add that what good is accuracy if you don't know where to throw the ball. Purdy can read the defense and know where to throw, and he has the accuracy to get it there.
Jan 20, 2023 at 11:30 AM
- Young2Rice
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
That second throw still puzzles me why they say he has an average arm.
https://youtube.com/shorts/zY74rPlNxLc
That was a 50 or so yard pass which is basic at this level.
The ball placement and hitting the WR in stride is the important part of that pass.
Agree 💯%, and I'll just add that what good is accuracy if you don't know where to throw the ball. Purdy can read the defense and know where to throw, and he has the accuracy to get it there.
For sure. A QB can overcome average arm strength with timing as well.
Get the ball out accurately before the WR makes his break and there is not much a defender can do about it.
Jan 20, 2023 at 11:46 AM
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About the skillset thing. Check out this QB prospect's scouting profile from nfl dot com. Guess who it is. I'll let this sit for a bit then I'll reveal who it is. I removed a few stats related things because it might give it away.
Strengths:
Tough and competitive
Plays with fiery demeanor and massive chip on his shoulder
Teammates rally around him on and off field
In complete command of his offense and has improved with each season
Light on his feet with quick setup in pocket
Has good pre-snap plan
Eyeballs and eliminates safeties to isolate man coverage on his receiver
Quick processor from read to read
Responds suddenly to what is there
Pitch and catch accurate if you allow it
Underrated arm talent
Expedite from off-platform with tight release and zip
Drives with lower body for added velocity
Accurate on all three levels
Completed 53 percent of his throws of 21-plus yards over last two years
Drops touch throws over top of linebackers trailing in coverage
Has improv talent
Uses mobility to buy time to make plays
Effective when he breaks contain and will probe for explosive play
Rises to the occasion
Posted elite production and efficiency as passer in the red-zone
Weaknesses
Falls short of size marks for traditional early-round quarterback
Short with drop-down release makes him more susceptible to batted passes
Will see increased importance on post-snap reads
Needs to improve full-field scanning
Can be thrown off rhythm by delayed blitz packages and disguised coverages
Footwork is erratic
Creeps up in pocket towards pressure
Ball placement wanes when he tries to gun it
Deep balls hang on him
Can't afford any delay in deep release to beat safety over the top
Needs to eliminate his back foot throws
Desire to make plays will lead to unnecessary sacks
Has to prove he can reign in and control on-field edge and cockiness
Strengths:
Tough and competitive
Plays with fiery demeanor and massive chip on his shoulder
Teammates rally around him on and off field
In complete command of his offense and has improved with each season
Light on his feet with quick setup in pocket
Has good pre-snap plan
Eyeballs and eliminates safeties to isolate man coverage on his receiver
Quick processor from read to read
Responds suddenly to what is there
Pitch and catch accurate if you allow it
Underrated arm talent
Expedite from off-platform with tight release and zip
Drives with lower body for added velocity
Accurate on all three levels
Completed 53 percent of his throws of 21-plus yards over last two years
Drops touch throws over top of linebackers trailing in coverage
Has improv talent
Uses mobility to buy time to make plays
Effective when he breaks contain and will probe for explosive play
Rises to the occasion
Posted elite production and efficiency as passer in the red-zone
Weaknesses
Falls short of size marks for traditional early-round quarterback
Short with drop-down release makes him more susceptible to batted passes
Will see increased importance on post-snap reads
Needs to improve full-field scanning
Can be thrown off rhythm by delayed blitz packages and disguised coverages
Footwork is erratic
Creeps up in pocket towards pressure
Ball placement wanes when he tries to gun it
Deep balls hang on him
Can't afford any delay in deep release to beat safety over the top
Needs to eliminate his back foot throws
Desire to make plays will lead to unnecessary sacks
Has to prove he can reign in and control on-field edge and cockiness
Jan 20, 2023 at 11:51 AM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by thl408:
About the skillset thing. Check out this QB prospect's scouting profile from nfl dot com. Guess who it is. I'll let this sit for a bit then I'll reveal who it is. I removed a few stats related things because it might give it away.
Strengths:
Tough and competitive
Plays with fiery demeanor and massive chip on his shoulder
Teammates rally around him on and off field
In complete command of his offense and has improved with each season
Light on his feet with quick setup in pocket
Has good pre-snap plan
Eyeballs and eliminates safeties to isolate man coverage on his receiver
Quick processor from read to read
Responds suddenly to what is there
Pitch and catch accurate if you allow it
Underrated arm talent
Expedite from off-platform with tight release and zip
Drives with lower body for added velocity
Accurate on all three levels
Completed 53 percent of his throws of 21-plus yards over last two years
Drops touch throws over top of linebackers trailing in coverage
Has improv talent
Uses mobility to buy time to make plays
Effective when he breaks contain and will probe for explosive play
Rises to the occasion
Posted elite production and efficiency as passer in the red-zone
Weaknesses
Falls short of size marks for traditional early-round quarterback
Short with drop-down release makes him more susceptible to batted passes
Will see increased importance on post-snap reads
Needs to improve full-field scanning
Can be thrown off rhythm by delayed blitz packages and disguised coverages
Footwork is erratic
Creeps up in pocket towards pressure
Ball placement wanes when he tries to gun it
Deep balls hang on him
Can't afford any delay in deep release to beat safety over the top
Needs to eliminate his back foot throws
Desire to make plays will lead to unnecessary sacks
Has to prove he can reign in and control on-field edge and cockiness
Probably not correct cuz I am not sure why you would pick this guy but I'm gonna say Baker Mayfield cuz he's short and does need to reign in the cockiness. Plus the deep ball hangs just ask Quadre Diggs.
Jan 20, 2023 at 11:57 AM
- thl408
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Probably not correct cuz I am not sure why you would pick this guy but I'm gonna say Baker Mayfield cuz he's short and does need to reign in the cockiness. Plus the deep ball hangs just ask Quadre Diggs.
Well s**t. That was easy. Sorry there is no prize for getting it right.
Crazy how one is a blue chip prospect and the other is Brock. That scouting report seems to describe Brock.
Jan 20, 2023 at 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
About the skillset thing. Check out this QB prospect's scouting profile from nfl dot com. Guess who it is. I'll let this sit for a bit then I'll reveal who it is. I removed a few stats related things because it might give it away.
Strengths:
Tough and competitive
Plays with fiery demeanor and massive chip on his shoulder
Teammates rally around him on and off field
In complete command of his offense and has improved with each season
Light on his feet with quick setup in pocket
Has good pre-snap plan
Eyeballs and eliminates safeties to isolate man coverage on his receiver
Quick processor from read to read
Responds suddenly to what is there
Pitch and catch accurate if you allow it
Underrated arm talent
Expedite from off-platform with tight release and zip
Drives with lower body for added velocity
Accurate on all three levels
Completed 53 percent of his throws of 21-plus yards over last two years
Drops touch throws over top of linebackers trailing in coverage
Has improv talent
Uses mobility to buy time to make plays
Effective when he breaks contain and will probe for explosive play
Rises to the occasion
Posted elite production and efficiency as passer in the red-zone
Weaknesses
Falls short of size marks for traditional early-round quarterback
Short with drop-down release makes him more susceptible to batted passes
Will see increased importance on post-snap reads
Needs to improve full-field scanning
Can be thrown off rhythm by delayed blitz packages and disguised coverages
Footwork is erratic
Creeps up in pocket towards pressure
Ball placement wanes when he tries to gun it
Deep balls hang on him
Can't afford any delay in deep release to beat safety over the top
Needs to eliminate his back foot throws
Desire to make plays will lead to unnecessary sacks
Has to prove he can reign in and control on-field edge and cockiness
Probably not correct cuz I am not sure why you would pick this guy but I'm gonna say Baker Mayfield cuz he's short and does need to reign in the cockiness. Plus the deep ball hangs just ask Quadre Diggs.
Russell Wilson?
Jan 20, 2023 at 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Probably not correct cuz I am not sure why you would pick this guy but I'm gonna say Baker Mayfield cuz he's short and does need to reign in the cockiness. Plus the deep ball hangs just ask Quadre Diggs.
Well s**t. That was easy. Sorry there is no prize for getting it right.
Crazy how one is a blue chip prospect and the other is Brock. That scouting report seems to describe Brock.
That is crazy!
Jan 20, 2023 at 12:00 PM
- 49ers81
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Right, montana/Bree's/Brady/manning etc. they are some of the greatest but weren't necessarily gifted athletically.
Montana was actually a pretty good athlete in his younger days. He had great, quick feet and was also a basketball player in high school which I imagine is one reason why he was so good moving around in the pocket
Jan 20, 2023 at 12:00 PM
- qnnhan7
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Originally posted by thl408:
About the skillset thing. Check out this QB prospect's scouting profile from nfl dot com. Guess who it is. I'll let this sit for a bit then I'll reveal who it is. I removed a few stats related things because it might give it away.
Strengths:
Tough and competitive
Plays with fiery demeanor and massive chip on his shoulder
Teammates rally around him on and off field
In complete command of his offense and has improved with each season
Light on his feet with quick setup in pocket
Has good pre-snap plan
Eyeballs and eliminates safeties to isolate man coverage on his receiver
Quick processor from read to read
Responds suddenly to what is there
Pitch and catch accurate if you allow it
Underrated arm talent
Expedite from off-platform with tight release and zip
Drives with lower body for added velocity
Accurate on all three levels
Completed 53 percent of his throws of 21-plus yards over last two years
Drops touch throws over top of linebackers trailing in coverage
Has improv talent
Uses mobility to buy time to make plays
Effective when he breaks contain and will probe for explosive play
Rises to the occasion
Posted elite production and efficiency as passer in the red-zone
Weaknesses
Falls short of size marks for traditional early-round quarterback
Short with drop-down release makes him more susceptible to batted passes
Will see increased importance on post-snap reads
Needs to improve full-field scanning
Can be thrown off rhythm by delayed blitz packages and disguised coverages
Footwork is erratic
Creeps up in pocket towards pressure
Ball placement wanes when he tries to gun it
Deep balls hang on him
Can't afford any delay in deep release to beat safety over the top
Needs to eliminate his back foot throws
Desire to make plays will lead to unnecessary sacks
Has to prove he can reign in and control on-field edge and cockiness
This could be anyone. Strength and weaknesses thrown against the wall. Could be JaMarcus Russell to Brock Purdy. Or Mahomes
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Jan 20, 2023 at 12:01 PM ]
Jan 20, 2023 at 12:04 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by thl408:
About the skillset thing. Check out this QB prospect's scouting profile from nfl dot com. Guess who it is. I'll let this sit for a bit then I'll reveal who it is. I removed a few stats related things because it might give it away.
Strengths:
Tough and competitive
Plays with fiery demeanor and massive chip on his shoulder
Teammates rally around him on and off field
In complete command of his offense and has improved with each season
Light on his feet with quick setup in pocket
Has good pre-snap plan
Eyeballs and eliminates safeties to isolate man coverage on his receiver
Quick processor from read to read
Responds suddenly to what is there
Pitch and catch accurate if you allow it
Underrated arm talent
Expedite from off-platform with tight release and zip
Drives with lower body for added velocity
Accurate on all three levels
Completed 53 percent of his throws of 21-plus yards over last two years
Drops touch throws over top of linebackers trailing in coverage
Has improv talent
Uses mobility to buy time to make plays
Effective when he breaks contain and will probe for explosive play
Rises to the occasion
Posted elite production and efficiency as passer in the red-zone
Weaknesses
Falls short of size marks for traditional early-round quarterback
Short with drop-down release makes him more susceptible to batted passes
Will see increased importance on post-snap reads
Needs to improve full-field scanning
Can be thrown off rhythm by delayed blitz packages and disguised coverages
Footwork is erratic
Creeps up in pocket towards pressure
Ball placement wanes when he tries to gun it
Deep balls hang on him
Can't afford any delay in deep release to beat safety over the top
Needs to eliminate his back foot throws
Desire to make plays will lead to unnecessary sacks
Has to prove he can reign in and control on-field edge and cockiness
This could be anyone. Strength and weaknesses thrown against the wall. Could be JaMarcus Russell to Brock Purdy. Or Mahomes
It wouldn't be Russell dude was built like Cam Newton. Size falling short of the mark was not an issue for him.
Jan 20, 2023 at 12:05 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Probably not correct cuz I am not sure why you would pick this guy but I'm gonna say Baker Mayfield cuz he's short and does need to reign in the cockiness. Plus the deep ball hangs just ask Quadre Diggs.
Well s**t. That was easy. Sorry there is no prize for getting it right.
Crazy how one is a blue chip prospect and the other is Brock. That scouting report seems to describe Brock.
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