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Originally posted by tankle104:
Brady ABSOLUTELY improved his arm strength throughout his career. He had a very average arm early on but he improved it all throughout his career.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Most media are like Hurts>Purdy but its crazy to look at their stats the Last 7 starts
Hurts Purdy
7-0 W/L 7-0
234.0 PASS YPG 234.9
64.8 COMP PCT 66.7
10-3 PASS TD-INT 14-2
96.8 PASS RTG 116.0
17 PASS+RUSH TD 16
I'd give the edge to Purdy lol
Hurts is better. He was having an MVP year before he got hurt.
And you gotta take into account how dangerous of a runner he is.
Some of these takes need to stop. I love Purdy, but come on...Even saw a poster a couple days ago say that they rather have Purdy than Allen.
Doesn't seem like a bad take. Allen has been a turnover machine and Purdy has been a 3rd down machine. One is in the conference finals while the other will be watching from home.
I've said repeatedly I'd take Purdy over Allen. People are just obsessed with tall QB's who throw the ball far. Sportscenter highlights is as far as they go in their "analysis" of other QB's.
Not a bad take at all.
Well, it is to the anti-Jimmy crowd who hitched their wagon to Trey and Trey only. "The game has changed" crowd. They think NFL QB's need to run 4.4 and throw the ball 70-80 yards. That recipe makes for great highlights, but does not translate to long term success. Purdy will have a better career than Allen and Hurts (hilarious that anyone would put him over Purdy based on body of work when Hurts has had one good season and relies on his legs to set up the pass).
Not at all. I haven't been bashing JG, but been as vocal as anyone about how much he held our offense, and team in general back. I'm a 49ers lover, not a Jimmy hater and just wanted a QB who didn't turn the ball over once a game, showed up in the playoffs and could help us compete in games where the defense didn't play lights out. Now that I've seen Brock do every one of those things, I'm cool with him being our QB. I don't think there's a single person in the forum that's "Trey and Trey only". We just wanted better QB play, and now we have it.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Nope. Bady lost because he was too old.
Also QBs cannot win on their own.
Prime Brady wasn't gonna beat Dallas with that team he had around him. Honestly you'd have to be Mahomes to have won that game with that TB roster and Vs that Dallas team
Brady in his prime always took less money than the rest of the idiots because he knew he needed talent around him to win. Yes all QBs need help but Brady seemed to know this more than most that wanted to absorb 20% of the salary cap
Mahomes is the only QB worth what he's paid amongst the top QB salaries because with that guy it doesn't take much above the norm to ensure you're in the AFCCG annually
Originally posted by Montana:
Brock likes George Strait, as an old school Nevadan, I approve:). I wonder if his favorite tune is Ocean Front Property in Arizona 🎶 lol.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Forget physical measurables.
....said no NFL Team EVER.
🤣 Well they can continue to sit at home and watch the SB EVERy year. Tom Brady was never known for his measurables. The guy won SB's because of his quick processing. Joe Montana the same thing. Patrick Mahomes, while physically gifted, has a very quick processor. I could go on but these QB's should suffice. So perhaps its the NFL that needs to rethink how they should evaluate players.
The fact that he's @ least 6 ft matters.
The fact that his throwing velocity mph is in the mid 50's matters.
I mean no,...we can't just forget physical measurables. That will just never happen. They do help to paint a portrait. That doesn't mean to ignore whatever you've seen on film from a player. Both can be important.
Also remember that one exception here and there NEVER makes the rule.
Well you can continue to follow the NFL trend that is 1st round bust after 1st round bust and never question those decision makers if you so chose to. I will continue to see things in a different way. Intelligence will always be superior to physical abilities. Finding a QB who has both is like winning the powerball. Sure its possible but its highly improbable.
No need to follow trends or busts or whatever. It's a clear fact that pro sports measurables DO matter. These guys work very hard at improving the ones they can. You really think a player's height doesn't matter? The average height of a male is 5'9" or so, right?
How many 5'9" (or shorter) guys do we see in football @ ANY position?
Deion ran a 4.2ish 40. I think they say he came, ran a 4.21, and then went home. You dont think that helped him be the best CB ever?
Originally posted by Furlow:
Thank you, Captain Obvious. Or course certain physical characteristic thresholds need to be met. No one is arguing against that. We're saying that "elite" measurables don't necessarily translate to a winning QB formula. And none of the all time greats had/have elite physical measurables. So why continue coveting them?
Originally posted by Furlow:
... "elite" measurables don't necessarily translate to a winning QB formula.
Originally posted by Furlow:Trey has only played 3 full games
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Most media are like Hurts>Purdy but its crazy to look at their stats the Last 7 starts
Hurts Purdy
7-0 W/L 7-0
234.0 PASS YPG 234.9
64.8 COMP PCT 66.7
10-3 PASS TD-INT 14-2
96.8 PASS RTG 116.0
17 PASS+RUSH TD 16
I'd give the edge to Purdy lol
Hurts is better. He was having an MVP year before he got hurt.
And you gotta take into account how dangerous of a runner he is.
Some of these takes need to stop. I love Purdy, but come on...Even saw a poster a couple days ago say that they rather have Purdy than Allen.
Doesn't seem like a bad take. Allen has been a turnover machine and Purdy has been a 3rd down machine. One is in the conference finals while the other will be watching from home.
I've said repeatedly I'd take Purdy over Allen. People are just obsessed with tall QB's who throw the ball far. Sportscenter highlights is as far as they go in their "analysis" of other QB's.
Not a bad take at all.
Well, it is to the anti-Jimmy crowd who hitched their wagon to Trey and Trey only. "The game has changed" crowd. They think NFL QB's need to run 4.4 and throw the ball 70-80 yards. That recipe makes for great highlights, but does not translate to long term success. Purdy will have a better career than Allen and Hurts (hilarious that anyone would put him over Purdy based on body of work when Hurts has had one good season and relies on his legs to set up the pass).
Not at all. I haven't been bashing JG, but been as vocal as anyone about how much he held our offense, and team in general back. I'm a 49ers lover, not a Jimmy hater and just wanted a QB who didn't turn the ball over once a game, showed up in the playoffs and could help us compete in games where the defense didn't play lights out. Now that I've seen Brock do every one of those things, I'm cool with him being our QB. I don't think there's a single person in the forum that's "Trey and Trey only". We just wanted better QB play, and now we have it.
True no one explicitly says it. But when the only QB that certain posters never criticize is Trey, it's obvious what their agenda is.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Thank you, Captain Obvious. Or course certain physical characteristic thresholds need to be met. No one is arguing against that. We're saying that "elite" measurables don't necessarily translate to a winning QB formula. And none of the all time greats had/have elite physical measurables. So why continue coveting them?
Mahomes is gonna end up being an all time great and he's got some pretty damn good measurables
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Forget physical measurables. Josh Allen single handedly cost his team several times this season including his last game because of his need to play hero ball. I don't want that. I will take intelligence and maturity over physical gifts anyday.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Brady ABSOLUTELY improved his arm strength throughout his career. He had a very average arm early on but he improved it all throughout his career.
Because Brady is a psycho. Very few players have that level of drive and determination though.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:Tom Brady is GOAT and he didn't have good measurables. Joe Montana didn't have good measurables either.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Thank you, Captain Obvious. Or course certain physical characteristic thresholds need to be met. No one is arguing against that. We're saying that "elite" measurables don't necessarily translate to a winning QB formula. And none of the all time greats had/have elite physical measurables. So why continue coveting them?
Mahomes is gonna end up being an all time great and he's got some pretty damn good measurables
