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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Furlow:

One snap folks

1 of 66

That is a bad look. 🤣

The screenshot doesn't due justice to what happened imo. Mike's momentum was just as much the problem there. Kittle whiffed on the block.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 26, 2023 at 2:27 PM ]
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Jcool:

Being the 14th best QB isn't bad considering he's a 7th rounder.

I don't believe that chart. Anyone can make a chart. I need to see the stats themselves. His production dipped but he was still solid under pressure and was very efficient on 3rd down against DAL. He absolutely lit up SEA the week before.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't believe that chart. Anyone can make a chart. I need to see the stats themselves. His production dipped but he was still solid under pressure and was very efficient on 3rd down against DAL. He absolutely lit up SEA the week before.

The chart only reflects the calculations. You should trust charts more than numbers just spit out at you because the #'s are put into context.

Your problem would be with AQE, not the chart, FWIW.

But you do realize that he's played less games than most on this chart, right? That accounts for large swings. If you've played 19 games at this point, a game that's not so great isin't going to cause a wild swing in your movement. And that's how it should be.

Here's how he comes up with the #s, just in case you're wondering:
https://unexpectedpoints.substack.com/p/adjusted-quarterback-efficiency-20
[ Edited by random49er on Jan 26, 2023 at 2:32 PM ]
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Furlow:

One snap folks

1 of 66

That is a bad look. 🤣

Look at him he's like the secret service agent flying thru the air to take a bullet. Protect the president in this case.. BCB..

mentality is.. whatever it takes

You know if you look at this way, it's actually a pretty epic picture
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is a bad look. 🤣

this is a good look


Yessir

When I saw this replay I had to stand and clap it up for McGlinchey. He does block his ass off on run plays. Maybe he can take ballet or yoga or something to work on his balance on pass pro? Lol something.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't believe that chart. Anyone can make a chart. I need to see the stats themselves. His production dipped but he was still solid under pressure and was very efficient on 3rd down against DAL. He absolutely lit up SEA the week before.

The chart only reflects the calculations. You should trust charts more than numbers just spit out at you because the #'s are put into context.

Your problem would be with AQE, not the chart, FWIW.

But you do realize that he's played less games than most on this chart, right? That accounts for large swings. If you've played 19 games at this point, a game that's not so great isin't going to cause a wild swing in your movement. And that's how it should be.

Here's how he comes up with the #s, just in case you're wondering:
https://unexpectedpoints.substack.com/p/adjusted-quarterback-efficiency-20

Thanks for the link. A chart shows you the result and not what went into getting that result.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't believe that chart. Anyone can make a chart. I need to see the stats themselves. His production dipped but he was still solid under pressure and was very efficient on 3rd down against DAL. He absolutely lit up SEA the week before.

Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't believe that chart. Anyone can make a chart. I need to see the stats themselves. His production dipped but he was still solid under pressure and was very efficient on 3rd down against DAL. He absolutely lit up SEA the week before.


I couldn't read the entire article because it is a paid subscription but the guy seems trust worthy. I have been running efficiency stats, specifically on playoff QB's, for the past 3 weeks now. Nothing in that DAL game, eye test and efficiency stats, convinced me to doubt Brock Purdy. While others were down on him earlier this week, I was even more impressed with his level of poise.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I couldn't read the entire article because it is a paid subscription but the guy seems trust worthy. I have been running efficiency stats, specifically on playoff QB's, for the past 3 weeks now. Nothing in that DAL game, eye test and efficiency stats, convinced me to doubt Brock Purdy. While others were down on him earlier this week, I was even more impressed with his level of poise.

I could not read the entire article because it is a paid subscription, nor would I want to read it due to the following line I saw in the preview: "Brock Purdy has been average." That is all I need to know. To not click on it. To not subscribe. Because anyone dumb enough to write something like that hasn't watched him play. No rookie QB who has gone on a hot streak like Brock Purdy, plus bag two playoff wins, is "average." It's never been done before. How can the player be "average."

Short and sweet? Brock Purdy is writing NFL history. Average players do not write NFL history, nor appear at the top of record breaking performances. I don't know who Kevin Cole is. I really don't care. I really don't care to read the man's writing.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is a bad look. 🤣

this is a good look


Yessir

When I saw this replay I had to stand and clap it up for McGlinchey. He does block his ass off on run plays. Maybe he can take ballet or yoga or something to work on his balance on pass pro? Lol something.

He does good things too. He's overly maligned on this board. I think he's a heck of a run blocker at least. His pass blocking problems are over blown. It's 1 or 2 bad ones a game that get amplified. He's ok there but excellent at run blocking. Under appreciated on this board.
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I couldn't read the entire article because it is a paid subscription but the guy seems trust worthy. I have been running efficiency stats, specifically on playoff QB's, for the past 3 weeks now. Nothing in that DAL game, eye test and efficiency stats, convinced me to doubt Brock Purdy. While others were down on him earlier this week, I was even more impressed with his level of poise.

I could not read the entire article because it is a paid subscription, nor would I want to read it due to the following line I saw in the preview: "Brock Purdy has been average." That is all I need to know. To not click on it. To not subscribe. Because anyone dumb enough to write something like that hasn't watched him play. No rookie QB who has gone on a hot streak like Brock Purdy, plus bag two playoff wins, is "average." It's never been done before. How can the player be "average."

Short and sweet? Brock Purdy is writing NFL history. Average players do not write NFL history, nor appear at the top of record breaking performances. I don't know who Kevin Cole is. I really don't care. I really don't care to read the man's writing.

Haha. I completely skipped over that somehow. Brock Purdy under pressure has been the most efficient out of the remaining playoff QB's. I know, I did the leg work. In fact, he has been better than all the other playoff QB's since week 14. He also is great against the blitz, great on 3rd down and solid in the redzone.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Jan 26, 2023 at 3:22 PM ]
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Thanks for the link. A chart shows you the result and not what went into getting that result.

Huh? the chart in itself, tracking-wise, is excellent. And it says exactly what's going into the results @ the top of it.



Now if you have issue with the adjustments,...you have the link for how he does it and u can feel free to pick it apart.

But if we are just talking the chart, we have pretty much all the notable QBs listed, Their EPA per play, the comparison of how their EPAs per play were adjusted due to another game played (playoff teams) and/or strength of schedule adjustments with more data compiled into it (the guys @ home that still moved). That's accounting for alot of information in a small picture.

Can't get much better than that, chart-wise. If you have a problem with the EPA per play calculation, then that is a calculation issue.

But virtually all the numbers discussed here when we argue and debate about players should be charted (if it weren't so time-consuming).

I personally don't have an opinion on how he calculates it but I applaud him for his efforts.

____________________________________________________________________________________________

This is the breakdown of the individual calculations that are going into his metric and how they compare to Jimmy.



Why does it seem like some take offense to this stuff? Anyone really think this guy has taken all season to adjust his metric for the sole purpose of downing 49er players?

It spits out what it spits out. Discuss each one as you wish. Or stick your head in the sand and void?

https://unexpectedpoints.substack.com/p/quantifying-brock-purdys-success
[ Edited by random49er on Jan 26, 2023 at 3:35 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is a bad look. 🤣

this is a good look


Yessir

When I saw this replay I had to stand and clap it up for McGlinchey. He does block his ass off on run plays. Maybe he can take ballet or yoga or something to work on his balance on pass pro? Lol something.

He does good things too. He's overly maligned on this board. I think he's a heck of a run blocker at least. His pass blocking problems are over blown. It's 1 or 2 bad ones a game that get amplified. He's ok there but excellent at run blocking. Under appreciated on this board.

I hate to be a debbie downer but I think the webzone will unanimously go back to hating MM after Sunday if we have to play from behind. Horrible matchup vs their DE's. MM's pass blocking technique is awful, he has the frame and talent to be a great RT, his technique is just trash though. And I think he's vastly overrated as a run blocker. I felt like our outside run game improved with Tom Compton last year. He's good in short yardage and goal line, but he's overrated as a blocker in space.

PS I hope he reads this and proves me wrong,
pew pew pew us to the chip, young man
The chart is just completely made up nonsense. What a joke. It's just arbitrary made up stuff. There is no way to quantify that stuff. It's made up who gets the biggest and smallest adjustments even. How can anybody take that seriously? It's absurd.
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