QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
if Cosell was that good with his QB assessments he would have been hired by a team long ago,,,

He's had offers, but the guy has the perfect job pretty much, gets well paid to watch film for a living while having chill hours.

Not sure why you're acting all irate about the criticism, its a valid one. Its one of the issues that caused Purdy to drop in the draft and we've seen his reluctance to move up in the pocket now and his strong tendency to go left constantly. Its not a secret, its something he's going to have to work on or defenses will continue to get better at handling him.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
This was apparent when we played Dallas. Definitely needs to be coached out of that. He showed signs of improvement when we played Seattle, but went back to his tendencies. It was brought up during the game too.

I'm sure Brock is going to show major improvement this week

Dallas was an excellent tuneup and if Dak could score like gangbusters vs PHI defense then they aren't exactly invincible

one thing about Shanny is that he understands that great athletes need room to play to their instincts and the coach needs to get out of the way and give them the space to express that... this what he had already said regarding Big Cock Brock and his pocket instincts and scrambling ability... Glock doesn't need to be coached out of his instincts in the pocket!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
if Cosell was that good with his QB assessments he would have been hired by a team long ago,,,

He's had offers, but the guy has the perfect job pretty much, gets well paid to watch film for a living while having chill hours.

Not sure why you're acting all irate about the criticism, its a valid one. Its one of the issues that caused Purdy to drop in the draft and we've seen his reluctance to move up in the pocket now and his strong tendency to go left constantly. Its not a secret, its something he's going to have to work on or defenses will continue to get better at handling him.

what substantial offers has he had? money talks, if Cosell was that good he would have cashed in, he is just another talking head like Cohn with basic football knowledge and free time to break down film and provide commentary

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
if Cosell was that good with his QB assessments he would have been hired by a team long ago,,,

He's had offers, but the guy has the perfect job pretty much, gets well paid to watch film for a living while having chill hours.

Not sure why you're acting all irate about the criticism, its a valid one. Its one of the issues that caused Purdy to drop in the draft and we've seen his reluctance to move up in the pocket now and his strong tendency to go left constantly. Its not a secret, its something he's going to have to work on or defenses will continue to get better at handling him.

what substantial offers has he had? money talks, if Cosell was that good he would have cashed in, he is just another talking head like Cohn with basic football knowledge and free time to break down film and provide commentary

He's actually had a lot of offers for significant money. He doesn't want to work for a team and report to what someone wants. He's his own boss and studies the film on his own schedule. He absolutely knows what he's talking about.

He's not saying Purdy is a gimmick that has been solved, he's saying NFL coordinators have found his weakness and are trying to press him on it. He will adjust. Obviously the Cowboys were all over him last week and he still figured out how to win. He'll be fine.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
if Cosell was that good with his QB assessments he would have been hired by a team long ago,,,

He's had offers, but the guy has the perfect job pretty much, gets well paid to watch film for a living while having chill hours.

Not sure why you're acting all irate about the criticism, its a valid one. Its one of the issues that caused Purdy to drop in the draft and we've seen his reluctance to move up in the pocket now and his strong tendency to go left constantly. Its not a secret, its something he's going to have to work on or defenses will continue to get better at handling him.

what substantial offers has he had? money talks, if Cosell was that good he would have cashed in, he is just another talking head like Cohn with basic football knowledge and free time to break down film and provide commentary

don't get all hurt cause he said what he said. Cosell has no favorites and calls it like he sees it. there no need to try to discredit him

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by thl408:
I thought he was not good to start the year, but got better as the year progressed. He's good. Someone with advanced stats might have the numbers to show how well each individual was at pass pro. I'd love to have an interior OL where they each are at the top of pass block win% (or whichever stat shows they are good at pass pro). That would go a long way in setting up Brock for success.

I know McGlinchey has been better than usual this year, but if we had a better RT Purdy would actually be able to roll right and throw with his proper mechanics when things went off schedule. Right now he rolls left because the right side collapses and his only safety is behind Trent. But he ends up having to turn back or spin to square his body with a throw and by that time he is usually throwing it away.

I don't think RT has anything to do with him rolling to the left all the time.

Why would a righty roll left if the right side was open? That makes no sense.

This guy gets it. The only reason he goes left is because anybody would go left if the right side is not holding up well. Dallas was blowing up mglinctcheys side the whole first half. Trents on the left so he rolls left.

If your right handed rolling right is preferred always.

The thing is Dallas is built small and fast on defense. They forced him left and took away the screens and checkdowns and closed quickly. CMC also was not at 100%. They are a bad matchup for us.

Combine all this and purdy looked okay but did not light the world on fire. Dallas took away all the yac on short plays and made the long ones much harder until the second half.

It will be difficult for the eagles to imitate what Dallas did. They have more talent but are built bigger. They won't close as fast or stuff the zone as well.

Expect purdy to play better even if he takes a few sacks up the middle. He will get more on the checkdowns and more from the running game.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
if Cosell was that good with his QB assessments he would have been hired by a team long ago,,,

He's had offers, but the guy has the perfect job pretty much, gets well paid to watch film for a living while having chill hours.

Not sure why you're acting all irate about the criticism, its a valid one. Its one of the issues that caused Purdy to drop in the draft and we've seen his reluctance to move up in the pocket now and his strong tendency to go left constantly. Its not a secret, its something he's going to have to work on or defenses will continue to get better at handling him.

what substantial offers has he had? money talks, if Cosell was that good he would have cashed in, he is just another talking head like Cohn with basic football knowledge and free time to break down film and provide commentary

He's actually had a lot of offers for significant money. He doesn't want to work for a team and report to what someone wants. He's his own boss and studies the film on his own schedule. He absolutely knows what he's talking about.

He's not saying Purdy is a gimmick that has been solved, he's saying NFL coordinators have found his weakness and are trying to press him on it. He will adjust. Obviously the Cowboys were all over him last week and he still figured out how to win. He'll be fine.

What teams made these offers and what was the contract value?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
if Cosell was that good with his QB assessments he would have been hired by a team long ago,,,

He's had offers, but the guy has the perfect job pretty much, gets well paid to watch film for a living while having chill hours.

Not sure why you're acting all irate about the criticism, its a valid one. Its one of the issues that caused Purdy to drop in the draft and we've seen his reluctance to move up in the pocket now and his strong tendency to go left constantly. Its not a secret, its something he's going to have to work on or defenses will continue to get better at handling him.

what substantial offers has he had? money talks, if Cosell was that good he would have cashed in, he is just another talking head like Cohn with basic football knowledge and free time to break down film and provide commentary

don't get all hurt cause he said what he said. Cosell has no favorites and calls it like he sees it. there no need to try to discredit him

No hurt fee fees here, I just don't agree with his assessment... i am confident BCB will prove him wrong

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Not bad. But Lowell Cohn's apology to Joe Montana was one for the ages. Plus, Joe had to win two more Super Bowls before Cohn let go with his "I was wrong about him" mea culpa.

But that column, which Cohn penned in the late 1980's for the SF Chronicle, has stuck with me through the years. I've never forgotten it. Because it was a real slice of humble pie from a jerk who happened to write about sports. You think Cohn's son is bad? Not hardly. Not compared to dad, who had a much larger following than his son will ever command.

This isn't meant as any disrespect to Grant. It's just an admission that the world is a different place. There weren't many media outlets back in that day. The WWW was PARC wet dream. PRINT was KING. Lowell Cohn had an enormous audience. And people just like me were more than willing to plunk down fifty cents for a Monday morning copy of the Sporting Green, the reporting of Ira Miller, the scribe of Glenn Dickey and the biggest mouth of all, the jerk known as Lowell Cohn.

Interesting coming from an eagle fan - I have never heard that. Very interesting take. Appreciate the history!

Eagles fan? But, but, but I've been a member of the Webzone for longer than you've been alive!!!

Wtf?! Lol I could of sworn I saw some things saying you were an eagles fan. Hahah your name made me believe it. My bad man! Hahaha forgive me for the disrespect!

Almost time, boys! I'm excited to see the chess match purdy/shanahan lays out for the eagles! It will be a tough game but I'm confident in our boys! I'll take them over anyone left! Dirty Purdy about to lay it down

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
if Cosell was that good with his QB assessments he would have been hired by a team long ago,,,

He's had offers, but the guy has the perfect job pretty much, gets well paid to watch film for a living while having chill hours.

Not sure why you're acting all irate about the criticism, its a valid one. Its one of the issues that caused Purdy to drop in the draft and we've seen his reluctance to move up in the pocket now and his strong tendency to go left constantly. Its not a secret, its something he's going to have to work on or defenses will continue to get better at handling him.

I thought he was being asked on KNBR a while back and he said no team has ever offer him anything.

I do like listening to him. I think his assessment on Purdy is good, and I think it is quite usual for a rookie, especially a QB, to have something they need to work and improve on.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
don't get all hurt cause he said what he said. Cosell has no favorites and calls it like he sees it. there no need to try to discredit him

Absolutely. Cosell is not a hot take guy saying stuff for attention, he watches film and breaks down what he sees. Fans get mad because they don't want to hear it. Dude doesn't play favorites, if the film shows it, he brings it up. IMO the best football analyst there is out there today.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Updated Adjusted Quarterback Efficiency (AQE) through the Divisional Round.

- Lawrence moves up to 2nd (!!)

- Allen and Jones falling

- Purdy still with the biggest negative adjustment, going from 2nd to 14th

- Can discount Tannehill, Tua and Jimmy a bit for smaller samples pic.twitter.com/bdcKr9WIoA

— Kevin Cole (@KevinCole___) January 26, 2023

This is about stupid....

Adjusted for receivers, Scheme......luck?

Get out of here with your "we made the chart say whatever we wanted it to say' chart.

*not directed at you JCool...the guy who made the chart

Mike Florio said Brock is probably the third best QB in this game between Hurts Minshew and Purdy. If you open up the top of his skull you'll see human excrement inside.