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QB Brock Purdy Thread

  • mayo49
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Originally posted by ninerjok:
Mike Florio said Brock is probably the third best QB in this game between Hurts Minshew and Purdy. If you open up the top of his skull you'll see human excrement inside.

Minshew? WTF?
Flolololorio. What a tool.
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Mike Florio said Brock is probably the third best QB in this game between Hurts Minshew and Purdy. If you open up the top of his skull you'll see human excrement inside.

Hes a wannabe hot take guy. Just a tiny nerdy lawyer who probably never played a sport in his life trying to generate attention by saying dumb crap.
AQE shows you how additional factors are helping a QB achieve a certain performance rate, but they don't (and can't) tell you how his performance would have differed if those factors were absent.

A good QB utilises the tools they are presented with. If the 49ers ran a different scheme, with less capable receivers, and less emphasis on YAC, would Purdy have adjusted his game and produced differently? We don't know.

What the chart does show us is that Purdy is producing truly excellent results with the scheme and resources at hand. That's actually all that matters at this point.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Greg Cosell seems to think the book is out now on BCB... he seems to think that when you pressure him he goes backwards or scrambles to his left, and he needs to be "coached out of that" LOL... BCB has a bigger game than that Greggie

with each day this week I'm feeling much more confident that Shanny and the boys are going to school the beagles and move on to the super bowl

Cosell is pretty spot on with his QB evaluations, its certainly what Seattle and Dallas both tried to do, its an issue that Purdy had in college with running out of the pocket instead of stepping up in it. Its what he's going to have to adapt and adjust to. NFL defensive coordinators are great at what they do, great at finding weaknesses in a QB's game, Purdy is going to have to show that he can improve and overcome it.

If he's not able to consistently climb the pocket as an NFL passer, then he's not going to last as a starter for much longer in this league.

Agreed. Cossell is legit. He's simply pointing out a tendency; all QB's have tendencies.

His tendency is to bail early and specifically, to the left, that's a tendency. Even that works sometimes (throw aways, Kittle ad lib, etc.).

That said, when he did step up, he threw 2 TD's to CMC and Mitchell against Seattle. This time, Dallas blanketed both guys as outlets with two defenders. Dallas also brought nearly a 50% pressure rate (35% is very HIGH) and awarded Brendel, Brunskill and McGlinchey their lowest grades of the year in PP.

This isn't a tendency on just Brock. This is a response to what's happening in front of him...a team issue.

No QB has issues stepping up when they're consistently comfortable, there are lanes to step up in to, the primary receiver is winning his routes and his outlets are wide open.

If talent is the issue with your LG-RT, Kyle is going to have to do some things schematicly to help while simultaneously stressing the importance of winning the routes timely; something our receivers aren't always great at.

Dallas called the perfect game plan, had the personnel to do it and executed it to perfection until we shifted our game plan and slowly wore them down.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 27, 2023 at 4:36 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Greg Cosell seems to think the book is out now on BCB... he seems to think that when you pressure him he goes backwards or scrambles to his left, and he needs to be "coached out of that" LOL... BCB has a bigger game than that Greggie

with each day this week I'm feeling much more confident that Shanny and the boys are going to school the beagles and move on to the super bowl

Cosell is pretty spot on with his QB evaluations, its certainly what Seattle and Dallas both tried to do, its an issue that Purdy had in college with running out of the pocket instead of stepping up in it. Its what he's going to have to adapt and adjust to. NFL defensive coordinators are great at what they do, great at finding weaknesses in a QB's game, Purdy is going to have to show that he can improve and overcome it.

If he's not able to consistently climb the pocket as an NFL passer, then he's not going to last as a starter for much longer in this league.

Agreed. Cossell is legit. He's simply pointing out a tendency; all QB's have tendencies.

His tendency is to bail early and specifically, to the left, that's a tendency. Even that works sometimes (throw aways, Kittle ad lib, etc.).

That said, when he did step up, he threw 2 TD's to CMC and Mitchell against Seattle. This time, Dallas blanketed both guys as outlets with two defenders. Dallas also brought nearly a 50% pressure rate (35% is very HIGH) and awarded Brendel, Brunskill and McGlinchey their lowest grades of the year in PP.

This isn't a tendency on just Brock. This is a response to what's happening in front of him...a team issue.

No QB has issues stepping up when they're consistently comfortable, there are lanes to step up in to, the primary receiver is winning his routes and his outlets are wide open.

If talent is the issue with your LG-RT, Kyle is going to have to do some things schematicly to help while simultaneously stressing the importance of winning the routes timely; something our receivers aren't always great at.

Dallas called the perfect game plan, had the personnel to do it and executed it to perfection until we shifted our game plan and slowly wore them down.

Great analysis, NC. I agree. If the eagles d line has the same success against our RG and RT positions, perhaps we should send those guys out to block on screen passes. That would negate that over aggressive d line. We did this same exact thing last year against them and it worked to perfection.
Yeah i think Cossel is right too. Brock is a rookie so of course he'll have tendencies to do what he's used to and i think every QB that comes in the league has some sort of tendencies that they need to overcome. Thats why coaches would much rather let a player sit for at least a year before playing him but you can't hardly do that in today's NFL as its a win now league.

I like that Brock is feeling the pressure and getting out, maybe a little too early, but its better than taking a sack. I dont know what he should do instead other than trying to run upfield instead of just to the left. Sometimes he's better off just throwing the ball away but i get it, he wants to give time to his WR to get open.
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Originally posted by miked1978:
Yeah i think Cossel is right too. Brock is a rookie so of course he'll have tendencies to do what he's used to and i think every QB that comes in the league has some sort of tendencies that they need to overcome. Thats why coaches would much rather let a player sit for at least a year before playing him but you can't hardly do that in today's NFL as its a win now league.

I like that Brock is feeling the pressure and getting out, maybe a little too early, but its better than taking a sack. I dont know what he should do instead other than trying to run upfield instead of just to the left. Sometimes he's better off just throwing the ball away but i get it, he wants to give time to his WR to get open.

Personally i think Kyle should take advantage of Purdy's tendency to scramble left with the drill to enhance his offense with Purdy. In a sense, that bobbled pass to Kittle was the kind of scramble drill I'm talking about. Kittle wasn't even supposed to run a route, but he saw his QB in trouble and found a zone for Purdy to throw to him.

Those Purdy tendencies to bug out and drift left, I think, is a good opportunity for the WRs to adjust their routes via a scramble drill, and possibly break a big one against the defense like Kittles bobbled catch did in the Dallas game.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Agreed. Cossell is legit. He's simply pointing out a tendency; all QB's have tendencies.

His tendency is to bail early and specifically, to the left, that's a tendency. Even that works sometimes (throw aways, Kittle ad lib, etc.).

That said, when he did step up, he threw 2 TD's to CMC and Mitchell against Seattle. This time, Dallas blanketed both guys as outlets with two defenders. Dallas also brought nearly a 50% pressure rate (35% is very HIGH) and awarded Brendel, Brunskill and McGlinchey their lowest grades of the year in PP.

This isn't a tendency on just Brock. This is a response to what's happening in front of him...a team issue.

No QB has issues stepping up when they're consistently comfortable, there are lanes to step up in to, the primary receiver is winning his routes and his outlets are wide open.

If talent is the issue with your LG-RT, Kyle is going to have to do some things schematicly to help while simultaneously stressing the importance of winning the routes timely; something our receivers aren't always great at.

Dallas called the perfect game plan, had the personnel to do it and executed it to perfection until we shifted our game plan and slowly wore them down.

There were a few posters who was saying the bolded above early on and I didn't think it was true, he's shown that his last few games though. I think he will improve on it - he did a good job of not letting the cowboys bait him into bad positions.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Agreed. Cossell is legit. He's simply pointing out a tendency; all QB's have tendencies.

His tendency is to bail early and specifically, to the left, that's a tendency. Even that works sometimes (throw aways, Kittle ad lib, etc.).

That said, when he did step up, he threw 2 TD's to CMC and Mitchell against Seattle. This time, Dallas blanketed both guys as outlets with two defenders. Dallas also brought nearly a 50% pressure rate (35% is very HIGH) and awarded Brendel, Brunskill and McGlinchey their lowest grades of the year in PP.

This isn't a tendency on just Brock. This is a response to what's happening in front of him...a team issue.

No QB has issues stepping up when they're consistently comfortable, there are lanes to step up in to, the primary receiver is winning his routes and his outlets are wide open.

If talent is the issue with your LG-RT, Kyle is going to have to do some things schematicly to help while simultaneously stressing the importance of winning the routes timely; something our receivers aren't always great at.

Dallas called the perfect game plan, had the personnel to do it and executed it to perfection until we shifted our game plan and slowly wore them down.

There were a few posters who was saying the bolded above early on and I didn't think it was true, he's shown that his last few games though. I think he will improve on it - he did a good job of not letting the cowboys bait him into bad positions.

Agreed.
59 attempts without a pick, Destroyed the previous rookie record of 14.
it's......

OUT

Originally posted by miked1978:
Yeah i think Cossel is right too. Brock is a rookie so of course he'll have tendencies to do what he's used to and i think every QB that comes in the league has some sort of tendencies that they need to overcome. Thats why coaches would much rather let a player sit for at least a year before playing him but you can't hardly do that in today's NFL as its a win now league.

I like that Brock is feeling the pressure and getting out, maybe a little too early, but its better than taking a sack. I dont know what he should do instead other than trying to run upfield instead of just to the left. Sometimes he's better off just throwing the ball away but i get it, he wants to give time to his WR to get open.

Every young QB has some weaknesses and habits that defenses will latch on to. What determines long term viability is how well they respond to how defenses have started to defend them. Those that can adjust, turn out to be successful. Those that can't, end up holding a clipboard.
BCB's supposed tendency to "go left" when he scrambles is a nothing burger, his game is greater than this fictional weakness
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