Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Fans on here must have a completely different point of view of what is considered a turnover worthy play than a business who specializes in such stats. A pass break up is not considered a turnover worthy play, just an FYI. And happens every week to every QB in the NFL.
Hmmmm. What about where defender drops the ball? Can that be a TWP and a PBU?
Could the receiver have made a better play on the ball?
Yes. A dropped INT is recorded as a PBU.
When a receiver has to make a play on the ball to prevent the interception, do you put that on the QB for a bad pass or on the receiver if he doesn't succeed? Just trying to understand your train of thought here because this was a debate over and over in other threads
If its a 50/50 ball, its on the receiver to make a play. If the receiver decides to knock it away instead of trying to catch it, I would put that on the receiver more than the QB. Obviously there are a lot of variables and each scenario will be different. I don't know exactly how PFF records them but I know for sure they have a definition for how they record each of their stats and because of those definitions allows them to make their stats consistent across the board for all players.
Okay, so you are a PFF guy and what they say happened is what you go by. I'm not being a smartass at all fwiw, you've been on the board long enough to know that PFF is a touchy subject around here and some only use it when it fits their narrative and s**t on it when it doesn't, offensive line thread is littered with it if you don't know what I'm talking about.
I agree with you on 50/50 balls and completely agree on the variables with each scenario being different. On the topic, admittedly, I have not watched the All-22 for both playoff games and that's the footage that I like most to completely see a play. My statement on Brock getting lucky on possible interceptions is based completely on normal game footage only and maybe I'd change my mind after seeing the All-22.