Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Its cool. I haven't watched the all 22 either. But if the ball was tipped at the LOS than no, it wouldn't be considered a TWP.
What about when it's tipped by the same defender who proceeds to intercept the ball?
You could go on and on all day long with these scenarios but is it really going to help make any progress in this conversation?
Hence the reason some don't take what PFF says as the end all be all on everything.
To answer your question with a question. Can a defender make a great play without the offense being at fault?
Absolutely! My turn. Could the offense have made an even better play (or throw in this instance), not giving the defender a chance to make a great play?
In your made up scenario. A tipped pass can just be a great play by the defender. And anyway, you can start recording your own set of stats with your own set of definitions. You are free to do so. But picking a play here and there and saying, this is happening too often or at a high rate without any reference point to compare to is worse than relying on a reputable stat site that pays folks to do it for a living.
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Why so salty? Where did I say those things? I said like two per game. I stated that I didn't watch the All-22 for clarity and could be wrong and change my mind. If you are finding what I'm saying offensive or something then we can simply end this conversation
Because you're going on and on about Purdy being lucky and having two dropped INT's per game, but then saying that Tartt dropping the easy INT against the Rams just part of the game and we don't know what would have happened had he caught it.
But you're not alone. There is a tendency for constant and unrelenting negativity by a few on this board.
Of course you would jump in and say something like this lol.
1. Going on and on about Purdy being lucky and having two dropped interceptions a game is called having conversation. You know, exactly what an internet message board is here for. I'm not going on and on by myself and for the sake of it. I stated in my "on and on" that I haven't seen the All-22 and that's where I make my true judgements and could change my mind. thl just posted that tweet proving what we all saw in the regular game and playoffs; my take seems accurate
2. The Tartt thing is a completely different conversation. That guy implied that the Tartt play is the reason we lost the game. Go read it all and tell me how we are supposed to interpret that. We still had about 10 minutes left in the game and the offense had multiple chances to score and didn't. How that correlates to the Purdy conversation is beyond me but doesn't suprise me with you. You just replaced your all out defense for Jimmy with Brock.
3. You perceive context as negativity all the time. All I said is that Brock got lucky with some dropped picks, like all QBs do, and all of this backlash happened. We should really be able to have separate threads where only positive things can be said and talked about and another thread for people who like to discuss all aspects, both good and bad are allowed and not considered haters in doing so.
But any positive comments the poster will be called a homer or a Purdy defender. Its a double edged sword. You're either a defender or a hater.
Although I am on the side of "hey, we are one game away from having the opportunity to achieve the ultimate goal" and feel like we should leave the pessimistic stuff for the off-season at this point, This is a message board and there are going to be people who don't share that same mindset. That's why I retired from the gameday threads after kickoff.