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Originally posted by Giedi:
Yup, I didn't even bother to watch the Tampa Bay game, had to review it on NFL game pass.

The injury was discouraging for sure. Watching the Tampa game was awesome but then they cut the feed early & went to the SEA game, cause we kicked their ass so bad lol. I watched in part because idk, I felt a little something in the Miami game watchin Brock, I thought, this guy might have something? I hope? Lol..he looked really poised and helped win the game, so that's good right? Lol but I was so bummed about the injury that I was like..man, I think it's over but was thinking about Brock a little & thought ok.. maybe not all hope is lost idk then bam..kicked. their. ass. Mind blown. Lol. Noone saw that coming, especially Tom Brady . What an entrance right? Like here I am, boom. Lol
[ Edited by Montana on Jan 28, 2023 at 12:00 PM ]
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Personally i think Kyle should take advantage of Purdy's tendency to scramble left with the drill to enhance his offense with Purdy. In a sense, that bobbled pass to Kittle was the kind of scramble drill I'm talking about. Kittle wasn't even supposed to run a route, but he saw his QB in trouble and found a zone for Purdy to throw to him.

Those Purdy tendencies to bug out and drift left, I think, is a good opportunity for the WRs to adjust their routes via a scramble drill, and possibly break a big one against the defense like Kittles bobbled catch did in the Dallas game.

Well, if Eagles think Brock has a tendency to scramble left, this would be a good week to work on having him scramble right. Screw Eagles up a bit. But big plus would be that when Brock is being chased around in the backfield, if he is moving Right, he can just uncork one while running. In the situations where he was scrambling Left, it is really hard ,sometimes impossible to stop, turn around and let one fly. Brock threw one into the Left sideline but it was awkward. Had he been running Right, it would have been an easy throw.

We'll see if Kyle works on having Brock scramble right on Sunday. I hope so. A couple times he got where he had to corkscrew himself around to chuck the ball. Running right, that just doesn't happen. My guess is he scrambles Left when the play is designed to go that way, nothing more complicated than that.

Agree that It is harder as a right hander to set up and throw if he's scrambling left. As others have said, defenses are forcing him to scramble left, either by a blitz or slanting the DLine rush, or stunts. I just think Kyle should take advantage of that and use his scrambling (right or left) to Purdy's advantage in those scenarios. I.e. moving pockets to the left and a screen to the right. The scramble drill is another way to take advantage of those defensive schemes.

You're absolutely right. After watching the all-22 from the last few games it has become apparent to why he often scrambles to the left. The majority of those instances it's because that is where his reads are flowing and he knows a roll out right only leaves him the option to run or take the sack.

Agree 💯%, and as others have said, McGlinchy isn't the most elite pass protector out there, so it makes sense that a lot of pressure will come from his side. Mcglinchy being Shot Putted by the DE was a to me.

That was sorta my point…have kyle work on pass plays that work to the Right, not the Left. Unquestionably Brock bails left most of the time because flow of play is Left. All Kyle needs to do is to call plays that flow to right…well, some of them , anyway.

If you look at Brock's passing depth splits, you will notice a favoritism toward the left side. Is it Kyle favoring the left for matchup purposes or is it because he is protecting a QB weakness?

Not so much a QB weakness, in my opinion, but an OLine pass protection weakness in McGlinchey.

Do you think that affects even dropback passes as well? Not just roll outs.

I do. McGlinchey is 6'8" and is getting pushed into Purdy's lap almost every pass play. He probably can't even see WR's on the right side lol.
Originally posted by Furlow:
I do. McGlinchey is 6'8" and is getting pushed into Purdy's lap almost every pass play.

No he isint.
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I do. McGlinchey is 6'8" and is getting pushed into Purdy's lap almost every pass play. He probably can't even see WR's on the right side lol.

No he isint.

Well he's objectively 6'8" so I'm assuming you're talking about getting pushed into Purdy's lap. You're right, it's not EVERY play (I know how much you love technicalities). But a lot. Maybe most. Definitely a "tendency" lol.
[ Edited by Furlow on Jan 28, 2023 at 12:06 PM ]
McG fun fact lol

Despite being roughly six foot, eight inches tall, McGlinchey doesn't know where his large frame came from. Said McGlinchey jokingly, "My dad is about five foot, eleven inches. My mom is five foot, eight inches. So, it must have been a genetic mutation."

A freak of nature basically lol awesome
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Originally posted by Montana:
McG fun fact lol

Despite being roughly six foot, eight inches tall, McGlinchey doesn't know where his large frame came from. Said McGlinchey jokingly, "My dad is about five foot, eleven inches. My mom is five foot, eight inches. So, it must have been a genetic mutation."

A freak of nature basically lol awesome

Maybe their mailman is really tall?
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
All true.

But the standard is a SB victory. Jimmy couldn't get over the finish line. Purdy is way ahead of schedule, but this may be his best shot. Lance is still waiting, unknown whether he can get all the way.

No rookie has won this game. A win would be historic and a loss means you're probably not assured the starting job next year.

Right

Now I'll pose this to everyone. Raise your hand if you don't think Trey can be at least as good as Jalen given more than 3.5 games playing time?

I'm willing to wager that Trey in his second game vs HOU last year was better than Jalen at that point his rookie year than Jalen was. I also believe that given time to develop Trey will be good

Now with Purdy, this is exactly why he needs to beat Hurts and Mahomes or Burrow. Even as a rookie is because he is older than Trey and he has played more than Trey and if we think Purdy can still grow then so can Trey

BUT

If Purdy wins it all then he will have gotten us what we've been chasing and THEN we can hand Trey a clipboard but if not there will be a QB competition this off-season

My hope is Purdy wins out and we get a chip and afterwards we'll have some good problems to deal with
I don't know. Trey hasn't done s**t, so it is a ridiculously optimistic statement to say he will be as good as someone who is in the MVP conversation. He has a chance, but he also has a chance to be a complete bust. We just don't know at this point. Trey clearly doesn't run as fast as Jalen, and he might be injured prone, so there is a very reasonable chance he can't run the Eagles offense, at least no where as good as Jalen.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Maybe their mailman is really tall?

HAHA

It was the stork
[ Edited by Montana on Jan 28, 2023 at 12:44 PM ]
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I do. McGlinchey is 6'8" and is getting pushed into Purdy's lap almost every pass play. He probably can't even see WR's on the right side lol.

No he isint.

Well he's objectively 6'8" so I'm assuming you're talking about getting pushed into Purdy's lap. You're right, it's not EVERY play (I know how much you love technicalities). But a lot. Maybe most. Definitely a "tendency" lol.

MM is giving up a 3.4% pressure rate over the last 8 games and only 1 sack.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I do. McGlinchey is 6'8" and is getting pushed into Purdy's lap almost every pass play. He probably can't even see WR's on the right side lol.

No he isint.

Well he's objectively 6'8" so I'm assuming you're talking about getting pushed into Purdy's lap. You're right, it's not EVERY play (I know how much you love technicalities). But a lot. Maybe most. Definitely a "tendency" lol.

It's not every play or almost every play. I say this because sprinkling a little truth in here and there IS actually a healthy thing for the board.

Most lists have him as a higher FA get than Jimmy G, actually. Can you believe that?
[ Edited by random49er on Jan 28, 2023 at 2:09 PM ]
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Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Yup, I didn't even bother to watch the Tampa Bay game, had to review it on NFL game pass.

The injury was discouraging for sure. Watching the Tampa game was awesome but then they cut the feed early & went to the SEA game, cause we kicked their ass so bad lol. I watched in part because idk, I felt a little something in the Miami game watchin Brock, I thought, this guy might have something? I hope? Lol..he looked really poised and helped win the game, so that's good right? Lol but I was so bummed about the injury that I was like..man, I think it's over but was thinking about Brock a little & thought ok.. maybe not all hope is lost idk then bam..kicked. their. ass. Mind blown. Lol. Noone saw that coming, especially Tom Brady . What an entrance right? Like here I am, boom. Lol

Yeah, when I rewatched the Tampa Bay game, I was shocked. I had to review who Purdy was and his age and why he was drafted so low. I looked at a lot of scouting reports to see what teams missed, and it basically gets back to his physical stature. Everyone sees Purdy and his athleticism isn't really apparent until you put a football in his hands and ask him to throw it. The rest is intangibles which are very very hard to analyze. I think Purdy has a great chance to win the NFCCG because of his cool demeanor and the talent that surrounds him. He really doesn't need to stress out and take on the world all by himself - just hand it to Deebo/CMC/Elijah/Mason if the moment gets too much for him.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Personally i think Kyle should take advantage of Purdy's tendency to scramble left with the drill to enhance his offense with Purdy. In a sense, that bobbled pass to Kittle was the kind of scramble drill I'm talking about. Kittle wasn't even supposed to run a route, but he saw his QB in trouble and found a zone for Purdy to throw to him.

Those Purdy tendencies to bug out and drift left, I think, is a good opportunity for the WRs to adjust their routes via a scramble drill, and possibly break a big one against the defense like Kittles bobbled catch did in the Dallas game.

Well, if Eagles think Brock has a tendency to scramble left, this would be a good week to work on having him scramble right. Screw Eagles up a bit. But big plus would be that when Brock is being chased around in the backfield, if he is moving Right, he can just uncork one while running. In the situations where he was scrambling Left, it is really hard ,sometimes impossible to stop, turn around and let one fly. Brock threw one into the Left sideline but it was awkward. Had he been running Right, it would have been an easy throw.

We'll see if Kyle works on having Brock scramble right on Sunday. I hope so. A couple times he got where he had to corkscrew himself around to chuck the ball. Running right, that just doesn't happen. My guess is he scrambles Left when the play is designed to go that way, nothing more complicated than that.

Agree that It is harder as a right hander to set up and throw if he's scrambling left. As others have said, defenses are forcing him to scramble left, either by a blitz or slanting the DLine rush, or stunts. I just think Kyle should take advantage of that and use his scrambling (right or left) to Purdy's advantage in those scenarios. I.e. moving pockets to the left and a screen to the right. The scramble drill is another way to take advantage of those defensive schemes.

You're absolutely right. After watching the all-22 from the last few games it has become apparent to why he often scrambles to the left. The majority of those instances it's because that is where his reads are flowing and he knows a roll out right only leaves him the option to run or take the sack.

Agree 💯%, and as others have said, McGlinchy isn't the most elite pass protector out there, so it makes sense that a lot of pressure will come from his side. Mcglinchy being Shot Putted by the DE was a to me.

That was sorta my point…have kyle work on pass plays that work to the Right, not the Left. Unquestionably Brock bails left most of the time because flow of play is Left. All Kyle needs to do is to call plays that flow to right…well, some of them , anyway.

If you look at Brock's passing depth splits, you will notice a favoritism toward the left side. Is it Kyle favoring the left for matchup purposes or is it because he is protecting a QB weakness?

Not so much a QB weakness, in my opinion, but an OLine pass protection weakness in McGlinchey.

Do you think that affects even dropback passes as well? Not just roll outs.

If Kittle is chip blocking the DE on McGlinchey's side, then of course you have one less receivers in the pass pattern on the right side - and most likely, Purdy won't throw to the right while Kittle is delayed with the chip block. Kittle is Purdy's favorite target, the only thing I can think of is having one of the WR's chip block (maybe Jennings?) to allow Kittle to run pass patterns on the left side. But McGlinchey is a pass protection weakness on that OLine in my opinion, and it makes sense for Purdy to bug out to his left when McGlinchey's beat.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Personally i think Kyle should take advantage of Purdy's tendency to scramble left with the drill to enhance his offense with Purdy. In a sense, that bobbled pass to Kittle was the kind of scramble drill I'm talking about. Kittle wasn't even supposed to run a route, but he saw his QB in trouble and found a zone for Purdy to throw to him.

Those Purdy tendencies to bug out and drift left, I think, is a good opportunity for the WRs to adjust their routes via a scramble drill, and possibly break a big one against the defense like Kittles bobbled catch did in the Dallas game.

Well, if Eagles think Brock has a tendency to scramble left, this would be a good week to work on having him scramble right. Screw Eagles up a bit. But big plus would be that when Brock is being chased around in the backfield, if he is moving Right, he can just uncork one while running. In the situations where he was scrambling Left, it is really hard ,sometimes impossible to stop, turn around and let one fly. Brock threw one into the Left sideline but it was awkward. Had he been running Right, it would have been an easy throw.

We'll see if Kyle works on having Brock scramble right on Sunday. I hope so. A couple times he got where he had to corkscrew himself around to chuck the ball. Running right, that just doesn't happen. My guess is he scrambles Left when the play is designed to go that way, nothing more complicated than that.

Agree that It is harder as a right hander to set up and throw if he's scrambling left. As others have said, defenses are forcing him to scramble left, either by a blitz or slanting the DLine rush, or stunts. I just think Kyle should take advantage of that and use his scrambling (right or left) to Purdy's advantage in those scenarios. I.e. moving pockets to the left and a screen to the right. The scramble drill is another way to take advantage of those defensive schemes.

You're absolutely right. After watching the all-22 from the last few games it has become apparent to why he often scrambles to the left. The majority of those instances it's because that is where his reads are flowing and he knows a roll out right only leaves him the option to run or take the sack.

Agree 💯%, and as others have said, McGlinchy isn't the most elite pass protector out there, so it makes sense that a lot of pressure will come from his side. Mcglinchy being Shot Putted by the DE was a to me.

That was sorta my point…have kyle work on pass plays that work to the Right, not the Left. Unquestionably Brock bails left most of the time because flow of play is Left. All Kyle needs to do is to call plays that flow to right…well, some of them , anyway.

If you look at Brock's passing depth splits, you will notice a favoritism toward the left side. Is it Kyle favoring the left for matchup purposes or is it because he is protecting a QB weakness?

Not so much a QB weakness, in my opinion, but an OLine pass protection weakness in McGlinchey.

Do you think that affects even dropback passes as well? Not just roll outs.

If Kittle is chip blocking the DE on McGlinchey's side, then of course you have one less receivers in the pass pattern on the right side - and most likely, Purdy won't throw to the right while Kittle is delayed with the chip block. Kittle is Purdy's favorite target, the only thing I can think of is having one of the WR's chip block (maybe Jennings?) to allow Kittle to run pass patterns on the left side. But McGlinchey is a pass protection weakness on that OLine in my opinion, and it makes sense for Purdy to bug out to his left when McGlinchey's beat.

How many times have you seen Kittle chip block over the past 8 games?
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
All true.

But the standard is a SB victory. Jimmy couldn't get over the finish line. Purdy is way ahead of schedule, but this may be his best shot. Lance is still waiting, unknown whether he can get all the way.

No rookie has won this game. A win would be historic and a loss means you're probably not assured the starting job next year.

Right

Now I'll pose this to everyone. Raise your hand if you don't think Trey can be at least as good as Jalen given more than 3.5 games playing time?

I'm willing to wager that Trey in his second game vs HOU last year was better than Jalen at that point his rookie year than Jalen was. I also believe that given time to develop Trey will be good

Now with Purdy, this is exactly why he needs to beat Hurts and Mahomes or Burrow. Even as a rookie is because he is older than Trey and he has played more than Trey and if we think Purdy can still grow then so can Trey

BUT

If Purdy wins it all then he will have gotten us what we've been chasing and THEN we can hand Trey a clipboard but if not there will be a QB competition this off-season

My hope is Purdy wins out and we get a chip and afterwards we'll have some good problems to deal with


Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Personally i think Kyle should take advantage of Purdy's tendency to scramble left with the drill to enhance his offense with Purdy. In a sense, that bobbled pass to Kittle was the kind of scramble drill I'm talking about. Kittle wasn't even supposed to run a route, but he saw his QB in trouble and found a zone for Purdy to throw to him.

Those Purdy tendencies to bug out and drift left, I think, is a good opportunity for the WRs to adjust their routes via a scramble drill, and possibly break a big one against the defense like Kittles bobbled catch did in the Dallas game.

Well, if Eagles think Brock has a tendency to scramble left, this would be a good week to work on having him scramble right. Screw Eagles up a bit. But big plus would be that when Brock is being chased around in the backfield, if he is moving Right, he can just uncork one while running. In the situations where he was scrambling Left, it is really hard ,sometimes impossible to stop, turn around and let one fly. Brock threw one into the Left sideline but it was awkward. Had he been running Right, it would have been an easy throw.

We'll see if Kyle works on having Brock scramble right on Sunday. I hope so. A couple times he got where he had to corkscrew himself around to chuck the ball. Running right, that just doesn't happen. My guess is he scrambles Left when the play is designed to go that way, nothing more complicated than that.

Agree that It is harder as a right hander to set up and throw if he's scrambling left. As others have said, defenses are forcing him to scramble left, either by a blitz or slanting the DLine rush, or stunts. I just think Kyle should take advantage of that and use his scrambling (right or left) to Purdy's advantage in those scenarios. I.e. moving pockets to the left and a screen to the right. The scramble drill is another way to take advantage of those defensive schemes.

You're absolutely right. After watching the all-22 from the last few games it has become apparent to why he often scrambles to the left. The majority of those instances it's because that is where his reads are flowing and he knows a roll out right only leaves him the option to run or take the sack.

Agree 💯%, and as others have said, McGlinchy isn't the most elite pass protector out there, so it makes sense that a lot of pressure will come from his side. Mcglinchy being Shot Putted by the DE was a to me.

That was sorta my point…have kyle work on pass plays that work to the Right, not the Left. Unquestionably Brock bails left most of the time because flow of play is Left. All Kyle needs to do is to call plays that flow to right…well, some of them , anyway.

If you look at Brock's passing depth splits, you will notice a favoritism toward the left side. Is it Kyle favoring the left for matchup purposes or is it because he is protecting a QB weakness?

Not so much a QB weakness, in my opinion, but an OLine pass protection weakness in McGlinchey.

Do you think that affects even dropback passes as well? Not just roll outs.

If Kittle is chip blocking the DE on McGlinchey's side, then of course you have one less receivers in the pass pattern on the right side - and most likely, Purdy won't throw to the right while Kittle is delayed with the chip block. Kittle is Purdy's favorite target, the only thing I can think of is having one of the WR's chip block (maybe Jennings?) to allow Kittle to run pass patterns on the left side. But McGlinchey is a pass protection weakness on that OLine in my opinion, and it makes sense for Purdy to bug out to his left when McGlinchey's beat.


First off, great question by YAC… and yes, i also believe Kyle was running pass plays Left in order to protect his Qb from the RT pass blocking weakness (but not unitl Giedi mentioned it). As for does kyle do the same thing ( ie , roll Brock left ) on drop back passes as well….that I would have to look back at the last 7 games and really see if that is so. Just guessing from memory, I don't think so.

If it's a kittle over the middle, or Aiyuk on.a 5 yd stop ,fake left, go right, no, i don't believe kyle is protecting Brock from poor PB on R side of OL. But if the pass is a 5 or 7 stepper, then, maybe kyle is running pass plays to L, to protect Brock. Just not sure about the deeper passes. Do you happen to know YAC?
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Personally i think Kyle should take advantage of Purdy's tendency to scramble left with the drill to enhance his offense with Purdy. In a sense, that bobbled pass to Kittle was the kind of scramble drill I'm talking about. Kittle wasn't even supposed to run a route, but he saw his QB in trouble and found a zone for Purdy to throw to him.

Those Purdy tendencies to bug out and drift left, I think, is a good opportunity for the WRs to adjust their routes via a scramble drill, and possibly break a big one against the defense like Kittles bobbled catch did in the Dallas game.

Well, if Eagles think Brock has a tendency to scramble left, this would be a good week to work on having him scramble right. Screw Eagles up a bit. But big plus would be that when Brock is being chased around in the backfield, if he is moving Right, he can just uncork one while running. In the situations where he was scrambling Left, it is really hard ,sometimes impossible to stop, turn around and let one fly. Brock threw one into the Left sideline but it was awkward. Had he been running Right, it would have been an easy throw.

We'll see if Kyle works on having Brock scramble right on Sunday. I hope so. A couple times he got where he had to corkscrew himself around to chuck the ball. Running right, that just doesn't happen. My guess is he scrambles Left when the play is designed to go that way, nothing more complicated than that.

Agree that It is harder as a right hander to set up and throw if he's scrambling left. As others have said, defenses are forcing him to scramble left, either by a blitz or slanting the DLine rush, or stunts. I just think Kyle should take advantage of that and use his scrambling (right or left) to Purdy's advantage in those scenarios. I.e. moving pockets to the left and a screen to the right. The scramble drill is another way to take advantage of those defensive schemes.

You're absolutely right. After watching the all-22 from the last few games it has become apparent to why he often scrambles to the left. The majority of those instances it's because that is where his reads are flowing and he knows a roll out right only leaves him the option to run or take the sack.

Agree 💯%, and as others have said, McGlinchy isn't the most elite pass protector out there, so it makes sense that a lot of pressure will come from his side. Mcglinchy being Shot Putted by the DE was a to me.

That was sorta my point…have kyle work on pass plays that work to the Right, not the Left. Unquestionably Brock bails left most of the time because flow of play is Left. All Kyle needs to do is to call plays that flow to right…well, some of them , anyway.

If you look at Brock's passing depth splits, you will notice a favoritism toward the left side. Is it Kyle favoring the left for matchup purposes or is it because he is protecting a QB weakness?

Not so much a QB weakness, in my opinion, but an OLine pass protection weakness in McGlinchey.

Do you think that affects even dropback passes as well? Not just roll outs.

If Kittle is chip blocking the DE on McGlinchey's side, then of course you have one less receivers in the pass pattern on the right side - and most likely, Purdy won't throw to the right while Kittle is delayed with the chip block. Kittle is Purdy's favorite target, the only thing I can think of is having one of the WR's chip block (maybe Jennings?) to allow Kittle to run pass patterns on the left side. But McGlinchey is a pass protection weakness on that OLine in my opinion, and it makes sense for Purdy to bug out to his left when McGlinchey's beat.

How many times have you seen Kittle chip block over the past 8 games?
I think I saw him do one on Micah Parsons in the Dallas early in the game. Then on in later part the game, the drift route, they play actioned and suckered the DE inside, and the OLine funneled the blocking inside - Kittle just jetted down the field and caught the (I think) 20 yard Brock throw to Kittle. I don't recall Kittle doing a lot of chip blocking where the opposing team's DE's aren't as fast and powerful as Micah and the Dallas D.
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