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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock's passing splits by location.

Left- 67.3% completion, 9.5 YPA, 8 TD's, 0 INT's with a 124.6 passer rating.

Center- 75.2% completion, 10.1 YPA, 6 TD's, 3 INT's with a 106.9 passer rating.

Right- 71.1% completion, 6.2 YPA, 2 TD's, 1 INT with a 78.4 passer rating.

The only area on the right that he has a passer rating above 90 is BLOS. If you subtract that he is completing 63.3% of his passes for 6.6 YPA, 0 TD's, 1 INT with a 62.7 passer rating.

Wow, great stuff YAC,, and thanks. So what's going on on the R side? Is it just purely poor pass pro on that side?
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Someone brought up pass pro and MM but his pressure rate has been elite and has only given up 1 sack in the last 8 games. It must be something else.

I wonder if being R handed, Brock finds it easier to complete a pass when WR is running R to L? If he is standing flat footed, (in the middle) , he's fine. If he is throwing down the middle he is fine…But if he gets chased off his platform, and is running to R, is it simply that he is more accurate throwing a R to L pass than a L to R one?

Similarly, in golf, R handers tend to make easier putts uphill or downhill, if the ball breaks R to L rather than L to R. On straight putts, they putt best or at least more accurately. Same is true for both amateurs and pros,, generally.

That gives me something to research.
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock's passing splits by location.

Left- 67.3% completion, 9.5 YPA, 8 TD's, 0 INT's with a 124.6 passer rating.

Center- 75.2% completion, 10.1 YPA, 6 TD's, 3 INT's with a 106.9 passer rating.

Right- 71.1% completion, 6.2 YPA, 2 TD's, 1 INT with a 78.4 passer rating.

The only area on the right that he has a passer rating above 90 is BLOS. If you subtract that he is completing 63.3% of his passes for 6.6 YPA, 0 TD's, 1 INT with a 62.7 passer rating.

Wow, great stuff YAC,, and thanks. So what's going on on the R side? Is it just purely poor pass pro on that side?
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McGlinchy vs Williams?

Yes, but YAC already noted that McG has been playing well the last half of the season (and had decent PFF scores) .Surely big Trent is a better blocker than anybody in the league and that includes McG, but maybe it is just that simple….LT blocks better than RT. Maybe this is Kyle's protecting his QB maximally.
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Brock is called Baby Bosa because of those massive quads

I think it was Tim Ryan who mentioned it early in the year before Brock started any games

I think of him as Baby Marino but Baby Bosa fits lol
Purdy did throw a great pass to kittle on the right for 31 yards against the cowboys. It was a nice pass.

Obviously it hasn't been an issue up to this point and is obviously still a small sample size when it comes to Brock Purdy's pass direction tendencies. But it is something to keep an eye on for the longterm.
Originally posted by TyCore:
There's no pools in Crescent City, CA.

CC is nice but then there's that creepy prison
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock's passing splits by location.

Left- 67.3% completion, 9.5 YPA, 8 TD's, 0 INT's with a 124.6 passer rating.

Center- 75.2% completion, 10.1 YPA, 6 TD's, 3 INT's with a 106.9 passer rating.

Right- 71.1% completion, 6.2 YPA, 2 TD's, 1 INT with a 78.4 passer rating.

The only area on the right that he has a passer rating above 90 is BLOS. If you subtract that he is completing 63.3% of his passes for 6.6 YPA, 0 TD's, 1 INT with a 62.7 passer rating.

Wow, great stuff YAC,, and thanks. So what's going on on the R side? Is it just purely poor pass pro on that side?
,

Someone brought up pass pro and MM but his pressure rate has been elite and has only given up 1 sack in the last 8 games. It must be something else.

It might have something to do with the play calls. The way the players move from one side to the other etc.

I was thinking Kyle also might be calling the play side more to the left (e.g. more receiving options). But not sure.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 28, 2023 at 5:01 PM ]
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock's passing splits by location.

Left- 67.3% completion, 9.5 YPA, 8 TD's, 0 INT's with a 124.6 passer rating.

Center- 75.2% completion, 10.1 YPA, 6 TD's, 3 INT's with a 106.9 passer rating.

Right- 71.1% completion, 6.2 YPA, 2 TD's, 1 INT with a 78.4 passer rating.

The only area on the right that he has a passer rating above 90 is BLOS. If you subtract that he is completing 63.3% of his passes for 6.6 YPA, 0 TD's, 1 INT with a 62.7 passer rating.

Wow, great stuff YAC,, and thanks. So what's going on on the R side? Is it just purely poor pass pro on that side?
,

Someone brought up pass pro and MM but his pressure rate has been elite and has only given up 1 sack in the last 8 games. It must be something else.

I wonder if being R handed, Brock finds it easier to complete a pass when WR is running R to L? If he is standing flat footed, (in the middle) , he's fine. If he is throwing down the middle he is fine…But if he gets chased off his platform, and is running to R, is it simply that he is more accurate throwing a R to L pass than a L to R one?

Similarly, in golf, R handers tend to make easier putts uphill or downhill, if the ball breaks R to L rather than L to R. On straight putts, they putt best or at least more accurately. Same is true for both amateurs and pros,, generally.

That gives me something to research.

The conventional thinking has always been moving left for a right handed QB is bad, throwing across your body is bad. That is why we don't see it often. Moving to the left for a right handed QB closes the shoulders and reduces velocity. There is not a great throw in stride opportunity there. Older fan's that watched Steve has seen hundreds of scrabble left throws in stride, and early in his career saw a fair share of balls in the dirt to his right. ESPN showed a highlight back in the day (before memes were a thing) that was captioned something to the effect of "Missing Joe yet?" It had Rice trying to make a catch on a dirt ball by Young.

It has not been an interception fest for Purdy because he is able to set his feet quickly for a throw or has been able to throw the ball away.

To this point the rolling left has been much to do about nothing, most of them have been broken plays that had already fallen apart due to pressure... IE....rolling left is a symptom of another problem.

The plus side to all this, and there is a plus side....Purdy is going to be harder to shut down by shading the defense to the right and making the "common" throwing windows smaller.

The NFL has always been infatuated with the bazooka arm QB. Primarily because just the threat of one makes a defense more honest. A defense has to defend the entire field and that includes the left and deep left side.

Have you notice how often big plays and major RAC has happened on the left side? Ever Notice how Draw Plays, or 3 and long run plays tend to go left? CMC,Deebo,BA,Jennings, and Kittle have all had long TDs or Big chunk plays on the Left. A lot of them comes from defenses shading right, there is simply more space on the left because most QBs are right handed.

Purdy does not have a bazooka, but he does have feet...in his own way he breaking common NFL tendencies and at least using the entire field.

Purdy going left is about as good as you can get short of drafting a left handed QB for making the defense do something that is less comfortable for them.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock's passing splits by location.

Left- 67.3% completion, 9.5 YPA, 8 TD's, 0 INT's with a 124.6 passer rating.

Center- 75.2% completion, 10.1 YPA, 6 TD's, 3 INT's with a 106.9 passer rating.

Right- 71.1% completion, 6.2 YPA, 2 TD's, 1 INT with a 78.4 passer rating.

The only area on the right that he has a passer rating above 90 is BLOS. If you subtract that he is completing 63.3% of his passes for 6.6 YPA, 0 TD's, 1 INT with a 62.7 passer rating.

Wow, great stuff YAC,, and thanks. So what's going on on the R side? Is it just purely poor pass pro on that side?
,

Someone brought up pass pro and MM but his pressure rate has been elite and has only given up 1 sack in the last 8 games. It must be something else.

I wonder if being R handed, Brock finds it easier to complete a pass when WR is running R to L? If he is standing flat footed, (in the middle) , he's fine. If he is throwing down the middle he is fine…But if he gets chased off his platform, and is running to R, is it simply that he is more accurate throwing a R to L pass than a L to R one?

Similarly, in golf, R handers tend to make easier putts uphill or downhill, if the ball breaks R to L rather than L to R. On straight putts, they putt best or at least more accurately. Same is true for both amateurs and pros,, generally.

That gives me something to research.

The conventional thinking has always been moving left for a right handed QB is bad, throwing across your body is bad. That is why we don't see it often. Moving to the left for a right handed QB closes the shoulders and reduces velocity. There is not a great throw in stride opportunity there. Older fan's that watched Steve has seen hundreds of scrabble left throws in stride, and early in his career saw a fair share of balls in the dirt to his right. ESPN showed a highlight back in the day (before memes were a thing) that was captioned something to the effect of "Missing Joe yet?" It had Rice trying to make a catch on a dirt ball by Young.

It has not been an interception fest for Purdy because he is able to set his feet quickly for a throw or has been able to throw the ball away.

To this point the rolling left has been much to do about nothing, most of them have been broken plays that had already fallen apart due to pressure... IE....rolling left is a symptom of another problem.

The plus side to all this, and there is a plus side....Purdy is going to be harder to shut down by shading the defense to the right and making the "common" throwing windows smaller.

The NFL has always been infatuated with the bazooka arm QB. Primarily because just the threat of one makes a defense more honest. A defense has to defend the entire field and that includes the left and deep left side.

Have you notice how often big plays and major RAC has happened on the left side? Ever Notice how Draw Plays, or 3 and long run plays tend to go left? CMC,Deebo,BA,Jennings, and Kittle have all had long TDs or Big chunk plays on the Left. A lot of them comes from defenses shading right, there is simply more space on the left because most QBs are right handed.

Purdy does not have a bazooka, but he does have feet...in his own way he breaking common NFL tendencies and at least using the entire field.

Purdy going left is about as good as you can get short of drafting a left handed QB for making the defense do something that is less comfortable for them.

So you are saying that because a majority of QB's are right handed and are typically better at throwing to the right that defenses try and take that away? But because Purdy is good at rolling and throwing to the left that Shanahan is intentially using it to his advantage because of defensive tendencies?
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
All true.

But the standard is a SB victory. Jimmy couldn't get over the finish line. Purdy is way ahead of schedule, but this may be his best shot. Lance is still waiting, unknown whether he can get all the way.

No rookie has won this game. A win would be historic and a loss means you're probably not assured the starting job next year.

Right

Now I'll pose this to everyone. Raise your hand if you don't think Trey can be at least as good as Jalen given more than 3.5 games playing time?

I'm willing to wager that Trey in his second game vs HOU last year was better than Jalen at that point his rookie year than Jalen was. I also believe that given time to develop Trey will be good

Now with Purdy, this is exactly why he needs to beat Hurts and Mahomes or Burrow. Even as a rookie is because he is older than Trey and he has played more than Trey and if we think Purdy can still grow then so can Trey

BUT

If Purdy wins it all then he will have gotten us what we've been chasing and THEN we can hand Trey a clipboard but if not there will be a QB competition this off-season

My hope is Purdy wins out and we get a chip and afterwards we'll have some good problems to deal with

We'd be in this same game if Lance was starting. Seattle is not good and only needed more than 12 to beat the Cowboys.

This is the game and the one we drafted Lance for. Since he is out Brock gets the opportunity to show right here right now that he can get us over the hump and win these next two games.

If you can't win these games it doesn't matter if you were lights out in the regular season against mediocre to garbage teams. Don't curr about elite play unless it is in these two games vs the best teams in the NFL.

This is where it matters.

Do it Brock. This year you're our only hope.
[ Edited by Ezekiel38 on Jan 28, 2023 at 5:38 PM ]
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
All true.

But the standard is a SB victory. Jimmy couldn't get over the finish line. Purdy is way ahead of schedule, but this may be his best shot. Lance is still waiting, unknown whether he can get all the way.

No rookie has won this game. A win would be historic and a loss means you're probably not assured the starting job next year.

Right

Now I'll pose this to everyone. Raise your hand if you don't think Trey can be at least as good as Jalen given more than 3.5 games playing time?

I'm willing to wager that Trey in his second game vs HOU last year was better than Jalen at that point his rookie year than Jalen was. I also believe that given time to develop Trey will be good

Now with Purdy, this is exactly why he needs to beat Hurts and Mahomes or Burrow. Even as a rookie is because he is older than Trey and he has played more than Trey and if we think Purdy can still grow then so can Trey

BUT

If Purdy wins it all then he will have gotten us what we've been chasing and THEN we can hand Trey a clipboard but if not there will be a QB competition this off-season

My hope is Purdy wins out and we get a chip and afterwards we'll have some good problems to deal with

We'd be in this same game if Lance was starting. Seattle is not good and only needed more than 12 to beat the Cowboys.

This is the game and the one we drafted Lance for. Since he is out Brock gets the opportunity to show right here right now that he can get us over the hump and win these next two games.

If you can't win these games it doesn't matter if you were lights out in the regular season against mediocre to garbage teams. Don't curr about elite play unless it is in these two games vs the best teams in the NFL.

This is where it matters.

Do it Brock. This year you're our only hope.

Obi-wan, you're our only hope. Use the force, Brock.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Jan 28, 2023 at 5:41 PM ]
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I do. McGlinchey is 6'8" and is getting pushed into Purdy's lap almost every pass play. He probably can't even see WR's on the right side lol.

No he isint.

Well he's objectively 6'8" so I'm assuming you're talking about getting pushed into Purdy's lap. You're right, it's not EVERY play (I know how much you love technicalities). But a lot. Maybe most. Definitely a "tendency" lol.

It's not every play or almost every play. I say this because sprinkling a little truth in here and there IS actually a healthy thing for the board.

Most lists have him as a higher FA get than Jimmy G, actually. Can you believe that?

Lol no I can't. Let's bet who makes more money this off-season.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Purdy did throw a great pass to kittle on the right for 31 yards against the cowboys. It was a nice pass.

Obviously it hasn't been an issue up to this point and is obviously still a small sample size when it comes to Brock Purdy's pass direction tendencies. But it is something to keep an eye on for the longterm.

That dime he threw to Aiyuk against the Seahawks in the back of the end zone would have increased the passer rating had BA caught it.
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Purdy did throw a great pass to kittle on the right for 31 yards against the cowboys. It was a nice pass.

Obviously it hasn't been an issue up to this point and is obviously still a small sample size when it comes to Brock Purdy's pass direction tendencies. But it is something to keep an eye on for the longterm.

That dime he threw to Aiyuk against the Seahawks in the back of the end zone would have increased the passer rating had BA caught it.

I would have preferred to see that tomorrow and a connect.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
All true.

But the standard is a SB victory. Jimmy couldn't get over the finish line. Purdy is way ahead of schedule, but this may be his best shot. Lance is still waiting, unknown whether he can get all the way.

No rookie has won this game. A win would be historic and a loss means you're probably not assured the starting job next year.

Right

Now I'll pose this to everyone. Raise your hand if you don't think Trey can be at least as good as Jalen given more than 3.5 games playing time?

I'm willing to wager that Trey in his second game vs HOU last year was better than Jalen at that point his rookie year than Jalen was. I also believe that given time to develop Trey will be good

Now with Purdy, this is exactly why he needs to beat Hurts and Mahomes or Burrow. Even as a rookie is because he is older than Trey and he has played more than Trey and if we think Purdy can still grow then so can Trey

BUT

If Purdy wins it all then he will have gotten us what we've been chasing and THEN we can hand Trey a clipboard but if not there will be a QB competition this off-season

My hope is Purdy wins out and we get a chip and afterwards we'll have some good problems to deal with

We'd be in this same game if Lance was starting. Seattle is not good and only needed more than 12 to beat the Cowboys.

This is the game and the one we drafted Lance for. Since he is out Brock gets the opportunity to show right here right now that he can get us over the hump and win these next two games.

If you can't win these games it doesn't matter if you were lights out in the regular season against mediocre to garbage teams. Don't curr about elite play unless it is in these two games vs the best teams in the NFL.

This is where it matters.

Do it Brock. This year you're our only hope.

Obi-wan, you're our only hope. Use the force, Brock.

Yeah....I'm not so sure Lance would get us to this point. This season that is.
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Purdy did throw a great pass to kittle on the right for 31 yards against the cowboys. It was a nice pass.

Obviously it hasn't been an issue up to this point and is obviously still a small sample size when it comes to Brock Purdy's pass direction tendencies. But it is something to keep an eye on for the longterm.

That dime he threw to Aiyuk against the Seahawks in the back of the end zone would have increased the passer rating had BA caught it.

I would have preferred to see that tomorrow and a connect.

Yup. Aiyuk said he owes Purdy one so this is the game to get it back
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