QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I've told you what will happen and when we come back in September you'll see I'm right. We have to consider draft capital and the salary cap and the options available when thinking about this stuff. We are giving Trey the reps Brock the rehab drafting a cheap young guy and signing a cheap free agent QB

Have you heard how Kyle has been keeping up touching bases with Trey about all these rumors? They're in lockstep and I am just waiting on our fan base. Jimmy is out and it's the Trey and Brock show going forward and in whatever order it shakes out these next two years

I've definitely read your thoughts. You've been repeating them incessantly, lol.

If you look at my post above where I describe the type of free agent QB they'd be looking to sign, you'll see I'm not describing cap busting options. We're talking higher end back up salaries probably in the 5-8 million dollar range. That's pretty cheap.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Not that it matters, but I didn't post it originally, NY did:

So I guess this makes him a "non-49er fan?"

Instead of constantly coming up with strawman arguments and pretending to be on some moral/intellectual high ground, maybe try just communicating like a normal person.

The point is that no one knows if Brock will be ready by week 1. It is still possible. So anyone assuming that Trey is the starter week 1 seems rather ridiculous. I know a lot of you have everything invested in Trey, and will do anything to denigrate Purdy (you did the same to Jimmy) - but the fact is that Purdy was very successful and is our QB1. The players know it and have said as such. Kyle won't say it outright but his play calling between Trey and Purdy makes it plain to see who he favors.

Call me ridiculous today and then turn the mirror upon yourself week 1. Barring injury to himself, Trey will be under center week 1 and if he's winning he's gonna remain there. If either he gets injured or hurt, Brock will pick it up
once healthy and ready to contribute.

Now I'll add that you're ridiculous if you think Kyle is gonna stand pat and remain idle after having had to watch this past Super Bowl knowing that he has a comparable talent that he hand selected himself that he can build his offseason around and get his guy Trey ready for the 2023 season

It is outright delusional for any fan to think that Kyle ain't gearing up to prep Trey to start this season all while knowing he still has Brock to call upon once he's medically cleared

We are also gonna draft a QB I can almost guarantee to give us three guys under 25 to groom and win on Sundays with. You may not want to see Trey as QB1 to start the season but you will. You call that ridiculous but I call that what's gonna happen now that Brock won't be back until MAYBE the week of our first contest

What do you mean by "back" for Purdy? It's a 6 months TOTAL rehab. He will be throwing in 3 months. So by camp and preseason, he'll be in shape. He doesn't need any preseason snaps. So if he's at say 95% healed for week 1, you think Kyle is going to start Trey?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I've told you what will happen and when we come back in September you'll see I'm right. We have to consider draft capital and the salary cap and the options available when thinking about this stuff. We are giving Trey the reps Brock the rehab drafting a cheap young guy and signing a cheap free agent QB

Have you heard how Kyle has been keeping up touching bases with Trey about all these rumors? They're in lockstep and I am just waiting on our fan base. Jimmy is out and it's the Trey and Brock show going forward and in whatever order it shakes out these next two years

I've definitely read your thoughts. You've been repeating them incessantly, lol.

If you look at my post above where I describe the type of free agent QB they'd be looking to sign, you'll see I'm not describing cap busting options. We're talking higher end back up salaries probably in the 5-8 million dollar range. That's pretty cheap.

We have Bosa to extend and both and OL and a DL to shore up along with a 13 man draft class and we need to resign E Man or some other DB. I am for drafting a cheap rookie QB and signing a bargain basement camp arm while Brock gets healthy and those player can help take a load off Trey

I am having hella fun repeating myself and commenting in my spare time of which I have aplenty on this work break so I am pecking away on this Mac mini I have installed in my movie room. Switching screens, viewing content and busting you guys asses!

Brock timeline to return as the starter is still viable... going to be a great 2023 with BCB back

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Not that it matters, but I didn't post it originally, NY did:

So I guess this makes him a "non-49er fan?"

Instead of constantly coming up with strawman arguments and pretending to be on some moral/intellectual high ground, maybe try just communicating like a normal person.

The point is that no one knows if Brock will be ready by week 1. It is still possible. So anyone assuming that Trey is the starter week 1 seems rather ridiculous. I know a lot of you have everything invested in Trey, and will do anything to denigrate Purdy (you did the same to Jimmy) - but the fact is that Purdy was very successful and is our QB1. The players know it and have said as such. Kyle won't say it outright but his play calling between Trey and Purdy makes it plain to see who he favors.

Call me ridiculous today and then turn the mirror upon yourself week 1. Barring injury to himself, Trey will be under center week 1 and if he's winning he's gonna remain there. If either he gets injured or hurt, Brock will pick it up
once healthy and ready to contribute.

Now I'll add that you're ridiculous if you think Kyle is gonna stand pat and remain idle after having had to watch this past Super Bowl knowing that he has a comparable talent that he hand selected himself that he can build his offseason around and get his guy Trey ready for the 2023 season

It is outright delusional for any fan to think that Kyle ain't gearing up to prep Trey to start this season all while knowing he still has Brock to call upon once he's medically cleared

We are also gonna draft a QB I can almost guarantee to give us three guys under 25 to groom and win on Sundays with. You may not want to see Trey as QB1 to start the season but you will. You call that ridiculous but I call that what's gonna happen now that Brock won't be back until MAYBE the week of our first contest

What do you mean by "back" for Purdy? It's a 6 months TOTAL rehab. He will be throwing in 3 months. So by camp and preseason, he'll be in shape. He doesn't need any preseason snaps. So if he's at say 95% healed for week 1, you think Kyle is going to start Trey?

Yup, because Brock won't be medically cleared to practice with the team until week 1 prep IF we have no setbacks. He will then need to work himself into game shape and that means the grind, the pacing, the timing with his offensive mates and the daily reps vs a first team defensive unit so he can get into "game shape". You don't play a guy fresh off rehab over the guy that you drafted to start and that has taken ALL the reps all offseason and that has faced your first team defense, played in spurts in the preseason and that has developed timing and chemistry with your first team OL and offensive playmakers. We are talking about a guy that is likely to host throwing sessions with these guys over the offseason and the like. Kyle is gonna start 2023 with Trey and once Brock is fully up to par and has had a few weeks running scout team going against the first team defense and IF Trey is stinking up the joint Brock will step in

We have 2 young cheap guys and hopefully a rookie stashed onto practice squad we can enter the season with and then I am hoping for perfect health for ALL our QBs this year. Between Trey and Brock we will have a fighting chance yet again

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Brock timeline to return as the starter is still viable... going to be a great 2023 with BCB back

Sure, but it won't be week 1. The math ain't mathing

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Brock timeline to return as the starter is still viable... going to be a great 2023 with BCB back

Sure, but it won't be week 1. The math ain't mathing

He should be ready for TC, so week one will be very likely.

Great article on the S2 test and Brock in the Athletic

https://theathletic.com/4226466/2023/02/24/nfl-quarterbacks-s2-cognition-test/?source=user_shared_article

If you watched Brock Purdy at last year's NFL Scouting Combine, you would have seen a quarterback with below-average height, a merely adequate arm and foot speed that, while good, didn't separate him from the pack.

The test he absolutely aced — and one that predicted his brilliant rookie season for the 49ers — was administered out of public view. Purdy landed in the mid 90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like.

Originally posted by mayo49:
He should be ready for TC, so week one will be very likely.

Can we please wait till the surgery is completed tho? Lol

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Brock timeline to return as the starter is still viable... going to be a great 2023 with BCB back

Sure, but it won't be week 1. The math ain't mathing

He should be ready for TC, so week one will be very likely.

no it's not very likely at all…he hasn't even had surgery and they don't even know the full diagnosis until then.

More than likely he isn't gonna be the starter Wk1. People need to understand that. This isn't a simply injury. If people truly believe he's the next coming of Montana then you let him get fully healthily. This is the kids career and that s**t shouldn't be put in jeopardy to be "ready" for WK1. The timeline isn't there man.

Originally posted by mitpdub:
Great article on the S2 test and Brock in the Athletic

https://theathletic.com/4226466/2023/02/24/nfl-quarterbacks-s2-cognition-test/?source=user_shared_article

If you watched Brock Purdy at last year's NFL Scouting Combine, you would have seen a quarterback with below-average height, a merely adequate arm and foot speed that, while good, didn't separate him from the pack.

The test he absolutely aced — and one that predicted his brilliant rookie season for the 49ers — was administered out of public view. Purdy landed in the mid 90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like.

Except for the ideal height Brock has all the physical tools to be in the NFL. Good zippy passes , very good accuracy, quick mobility, quick decisions, making plays. The problem was when you look at the highlights, all that got lost when he's trying to do too much with inferior team going against better opponents. He became that guy that ran around turning the ball over. He was like Steve Young with Tampa Bay. Just another guy trying to do too much to compensate for his weakness. Scouts were dismissive. If you don't do dumb s**t in college you can be Jared Goff or Mitch Trubisky lol

Originally posted by mitpdub:
Great article on the S2 test and Brock in the Athletic

https://theathletic.com/4226466/2023/02/24/nfl-quarterbacks-s2-cognition-test/?source=user_shared_article

If you watched Brock Purdy at last year's NFL Scouting Combine, you would have seen a quarterback with below-average height, a merely adequate arm and foot speed that, while good, didn't separate him from the pack.

The test he absolutely aced — and one that predicted his brilliant rookie season for the 49ers — was administered out of public view. Purdy landed in the mid 90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like.

Trey Lance also reportedly had a great cognition test.. fields was also elite there too.love to hear that. It showed on the field for Brock

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Except for the ideal height Brock has all the physical tools to be in the NFL. Good zippy passes , very good accuracy, quick mobility, quick decisions, making plays. The problem was when you look at the highlights, all that got lost when he's trying to do too much with inferior team going against better opponents. He became that guy that ran around turning the ball over. He was like Steve Young with Tampa Bay. Just another guy trying to do too much to compensate for his weakness. Scouts were dismissive. If you don't do dumb s**t in college you can be Jared Goff or Mitch Trubisky lol

Brock's college film overall wasn't that great. His accuracy was streaky. I remember at one point he was looked at as a first rd prospect, he just never got better as his career went on.

for sure the arm wasn't anything special and the size is what it is…I wouldn't call it scouts missing or anything. The film is the film. He just worked his ass off to improve his arm strength, landed in an amazing spot and flat out played better than he did in college. Props to BCB. Hopefully it's just the beginning of what's to come.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Not that it matters, but I didn't post it originally, NY did:

So I guess this makes him a "non-49er fan?"

Instead of constantly coming up with strawman arguments and pretending to be on some moral/intellectual high ground, maybe try just communicating like a normal person.

The point is that no one knows if Brock will be ready by week 1. It is still possible. So anyone assuming that Trey is the starter week 1 seems rather ridiculous. I know a lot of you have everything invested in Trey, and will do anything to denigrate Purdy (you did the same to Jimmy) - but the fact is that Purdy was very successful and is our QB1. The players know it and have said as such. Kyle won't say it outright but his play calling between Trey and Purdy makes it plain to see who he favors.

Call me ridiculous today and then turn the mirror upon yourself week 1. Barring injury to himself, Trey will be under center week 1 and if he's winning he's gonna remain there. If either he gets injured or hurt, Brock will pick it up
once healthy and ready to contribute.

Now I'll add that you're ridiculous if you think Kyle is gonna stand pat and remain idle after having had to watch this past Super Bowl knowing that he has a comparable talent that he hand selected himself that he can build his offseason around and get his guy Trey ready for the 2023 season

It is outright delusional for any fan to think that Kyle ain't gearing up to prep Trey to start this season all while knowing he still has Brock to call upon once he's medically cleared

We are also gonna draft a QB I can almost guarantee to give us three guys under 25 to groom and win on Sundays with. You may not want to see Trey as QB1 to start the season but you will. You call that ridiculous but I call that what's gonna happen now that Brock won't be back until MAYBE the week of our first contest

What do you mean by "back" for Purdy? It's a 6 months TOTAL rehab. He will be throwing in 3 months. So by camp and preseason, he'll be in shape. He doesn't need any preseason snaps. So if he's at say 95% healed for week 1, you think Kyle is going to start Trey?

Let's assume he has the surgery 2 weeks from now. Then let's assume that his rehab stays on schedule and he has no setbacks. That would make him ready by the middle of September so he's likely to miss 1 or 2 games. That's if all goes well. We've already seen one delay.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Except for the ideal height Brock has all the physical tools to be in the NFL. Good zippy passes , very good accuracy, quick mobility, quick decisions, making plays. The problem was when you look at the highlights, all that got lost when he's trying to do too much with inferior team going against better opponents. He became that guy that ran around turning the ball over. He was like Steve Young with Tampa Bay. Just another guy trying to do too much to compensate for his weakness. Scouts were dismissive. If you don't do dumb s**t in college you can be Jared Goff or Mitch Trubisky lol

Brock's college film overall wasn't that great. His accuracy was streaky. I remember at one point he was looked at as a first rd prospect, he just never got better as his career went on.

for sure the arm wasn't anything special and the size is what it is…I wouldn't call it scouts missing or anything. The film is the film. He just worked his ass off to improve his arm strength, landed in an amazing spot and flat out played better than he did in college. Props to BCB. Hopefully it's just the beginning of what's to come.

He's playing on a much better team with better players and a better coach than he had at Iowa State. It's amazing how much better a QB can look when he plays on a good team.