QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You can't compare the talent he had at Iowa State with the Niners. Plus it's well known that Kyle's system is QB friendly. It's made for players like JG and Purdy who don't have great athleticism but can throw accurately. The majority of QBs in the NFL fall into this category. There aren't many in the Mahomes/Herbert category that have the whole package or nearly the whole package. I'll repeat this again. If Purdy had the size and athleticism that the top guys have he would have been a 1st round pick. His other traits are undeniable and he would be a true franchise QB.

Not just a 1st round pick, according to a recent ESPN re-drafting of 2022, Purdy would be the #4 OVERALL draft, despite his lack of "size and athleticism."

What makes Purdy so good is what is between his ears, not his size or athleticism. He is big enough and agile/athletic enough to make plays. However, it is his ability to not just see but to understand what he sees that makes him good.

BP is a unicorn. He sees the game like a 6-year pro. It isn't just Kyle's system that elevated the 49er offense by an average of 10 points per game. It was the operator.

Yes that's right obviously. Purdy is special between the ears and has excellent mechanics and throwing accuracy. I have no doubt at all if they did the draft over he could go in the 1st round. Lots of teams don't have a QB this good.

The system argument is busted by Josh Johnson and Trey Lance. Neither can run it as good as Purdy. I don't think even Jimmy G does for that matter. It's Purdy too. Not just a QB friendly system or talent around him. Of course there is good talent. But those other players don't do as much with it as Purdy does. So look at it that way.

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You can't compare the talent he had at Iowa State with the Niners. Plus it's well known that Kyle's system is QB friendly. It's made for players like JG and Purdy who don't have great athleticism but can throw accurately. The majority of QBs in the NFL fall into this category. There aren't many in the Mahomes/Herbert category that have the whole package or nearly the whole package. I'll repeat this again. If Purdy had the size and athleticism that the top guys have he would have been a 1st round pick. His other traits are undeniable and he would be a true franchise QB.

Not just a 1st round pick, according to a recent ESPN re-drafting of 2022, Purdy would be the #4 OVERALL draft, despite his lack of "size and athleticism."

What makes Purdy so good is what is between his ears, not his size or athleticism. He is big enough and agile/athletic enough to make plays. However, it is his ability to not just see but to understand what he sees that makes him good.

BP is a unicorn. He sees the game like a 6-year pro. It isn't just Kyle's system that elevated the 49er offense by an average of 10 points per game. It was the operator.

The bolded is so true but overall this is just such a great post. You can train in the weight room and improve speed, strength and quickness.

What you can't do is obtain those elite cognitive skills during off-season camp. His ability to slow the game down and see the entire field so quickly allow him to make great decisions.

Did he make a couple bad throws? Of course he did but the only game he lost as a rookie was the NFC championship and he only lost that due to injury.

My hope is he can heal and have a great follow up season and most importantly, stay healthy. Then the next off season he can work more on strength training which would make him even more of a threat.

Edit grammar

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Reports from his pre-draft training camp said strength was not a problem. In fact, they said his thighs were so developed that it was forcing him onto his toes in his throwing motion, causing him accuracy issues, particularly overthrowing high. They put him on a lightweight training regimen to balance out his stance and it not only helped his accuracy, but it also increased his ball speed.

What he needs now is to get healthy.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You can't compare the talent he had at Iowa State with the Niners. Plus it's well known that Kyle's system is QB friendly. It's made for players like JG and Purdy who don't have great athleticism but can throw accurately. The majority of QBs in the NFL fall into this category. There aren't many in the Mahomes/Herbert category that have the whole package or nearly the whole package. I'll repeat this again. If Purdy had the size and athleticism that the top guys have he would have been a 1st round pick. His other traits are undeniable and he would be a true franchise QB.

Not just a 1st round pick, according to a recent ESPN re-drafting of 2022, Purdy would be the #4 OVERALL draft, despite his lack of "size and athleticism."

What makes Purdy so good is what is between his ears, not his size or athleticism. He is big enough and agile/athletic enough to make plays. However, it is his ability to not just see but to understand what he sees that makes him good.

BP is a unicorn. He sees the game like a 6-year pro. It isn't just Kyle's system that elevated the 49er offense by an average of 10 points per game. It was the operator.

The bolded is so true but overall this is just such a great post. You can train in the weight room and improve speed, strength and quickness.

What you can't do is obtain those elite cognitive skills during off-season camp. His ability to slow the game down and see the entire field so quickly allow him to make great decisions.

Did he make a couple bad throws? Of course he did but the only game he lost as a rookie was the NFC championship and he only lost that due to injury.

My hope is he can heal and have a great follow up season and most importantly, stay healthy. Then the next off season he can work more on strength training which would make him even more of a threat.

Edit grammar

Thanks.

Reports from his pre-draft training camp said strength was not a problem. In fact, they said his thighs were so developed that it was forcing him onto his toes in his throwing motion, causing him accuracy issues, particularly overthrowing high. They put him on a lightweight training regimen to balance out his stance and it not only helped his accuracy, but it also increased his ball speed.

What he needs now is to get healthy.

This is the aspect of having Trey that is being overlooked imo. I think letting Trey start the season and allowing Brock as much time as possible to heal, rather than possibly rushing the process is going to benefit both of them. I loved everything I saw from Purdy and because of what he showed am not afraid of Trey possibly not working out. I consider Brock's play to be the floor of what we can expect from QB play for the next decade or so, and possibly Trey can raise it. If not, Brock has everything we need to win championships. Future is bright.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
This is the aspect of having Trey that is being overlooked imo. I think letting Trey start the season and allowing Brock as much time as possible to heal, rather than possibly rushing the process is going to benefit both of them. I loved everything I saw from Purdy and because of what he showed am not afraid of Trey possibly not working out. I consider Brock's play to be the floor of what we can expect from QB play for the next decade or so, and possibly Trey can raise it. If not, Brock has everything we need to win championships. Future is bright.

One of the best post I've seen regarding our QB situation.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
This is the aspect of having Trey that is being overlooked imo. I think letting Trey start the season and allowing Brock as much time as possible to heal, rather than possibly rushing the process is going to benefit both of them. I loved everything I saw from Purdy and because of what he showed am not afraid of Trey possibly not working out. I consider Brock's play to be the floor of what we can expect from QB play for the next decade or so, and possibly Trey can raise it. If not, Brock has everything we need to win championships. Future is bright.

One of the best post I've seen regarding our QB situation.

You consider statustucally the best qb play in the league over the last 8 games to be a floor??

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
This is the aspect of having Trey that is being overlooked imo. I think letting Trey start the season and allowing Brock as much time as possible to heal, rather than possibly rushing the process is going to benefit both of them. I loved everything I saw from Purdy and because of what he showed am not afraid of Trey possibly not working out. I consider Brock's play to be the floor of what we can expect from QB play for the next decade or so, and possibly Trey can raise it. If not, Brock has everything we need to win championships. Future is bright.

One of the best post I've seen regarding our QB situation.

You consider statustucally the best qb play in the league over the last 8 games to be a floor??

AgreedX10. And yes. So much more to come from Purdy.. we are in a good place. Finally. Just don't even consider bringing you know who back.

Soooooo don't know if this has been reported yet but NBC sports just reported that Brock's S2 cognition test was off the charts. Equal to Mahommes and Allen and Burrow. Now we know why things seemed so slow for him right away and some of the off script plays he made. He scored in the mid 90's. An 80 is elite.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You can't compare the talent he had at Iowa State with the Niners. Plus it's well known that Kyle's system is QB friendly. It's made for players like JG and Purdy who don't have great athleticism but can throw accurately. The majority of QBs in the NFL fall into this category. There aren't many in the Mahomes/Herbert category that have the whole package or nearly the whole package. I'll repeat this again. If Purdy had the size and athleticism that the top guys have he would have been a 1st round pick. His other traits are undeniable and he would be a true franchise QB.

Not just a 1st round pick, according to a recent ESPN re-drafting of 2022, Purdy would be the #4 OVERALL draft, despite his lack of "size and athleticism."

What makes Purdy so good is what is between his ears, not his size or athleticism. He is big enough and agile/athletic enough to make plays. However, it is his ability to not just see but to understand what he sees that makes him good.

BP is a unicorn. He sees the game like a 6-year pro. It isn't just Kyle's system that elevated the 49er offense by an average of 10 points per game. It was the operator.

Yes that's right obviously. Purdy is special between the ears and has excellent mechanics and throwing accuracy. I have no doubt at all if they did the draft over he could go in the 1st round. Lots of teams don't have a QB this good.

The system argument is busted by Josh Johnson and Trey Lance. Neither can run it as good as Purdy. I don't think even Jimmy G does for that matter. It's Purdy too. Not just a QB friendly system or talent around him. Of course there is good talent. But those other players don't do as much with it as Purdy does. So look at it that way.

I guess we disagree on this. I'm not just giving my opinion but it's what many around the league have been saying for years. Kyle's system of a strong running game combined with a quick and short passing game make it much easier for a QB like JG or Brock to excel because of their quick release and accuracy. Not every QB has those traits but more can succeed in this system than they can in one that relies on a QB with a strong arm that needs to complete a lot of deep throws.

We haven't seen enough of Trey to say for sure that he can't work in this system. I'd like to see several starts before I make that evaluation. His release isn't very quick which may be an issue if he can't correct it. Time will tell. All I ever hear about Trey is he's a hard worker and very bright. Let's see if he can correct his weaknesses and take advantage of his arm strength and mobility. If he can't then we have Brock assuming his arm is okay next season.

Brock has squirrelly cognitive, if only the Eagles didn't snatched and snapped his elbow...

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Brock has squirrelly cognitive, if only the Eagles didn't snatched and snapped his elbow...

right side of the o-line smh

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Brock has squirrelly cognitive, if only the Eagles didn't snatched and snapped his elbow...

right side of the o-line smh

It wasn't even an O lineman who gave up the pressure or sack on that play. lol

Originally posted by socal1632:
Soooooo don't know if this has been reported yet but NBC sports just reported that Brock's S2 cognition test was off the charts. Equal to Mahommes and Allen and Burrow. Now we know why things seemed so slow for him right away and some of the off script plays he made. He scored in the mid 90's. An 80 is elite.

Scroll back 2 pages. I posted the article from the Athletic that was well done.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You can't compare the talent he had at Iowa State with the Niners. Plus it's well known that Kyle's system is QB friendly. It's made for players like JG and Purdy who don't have great athleticism but can throw accurately. The majority of QBs in the NFL fall into this category. There aren't many in the Mahomes/Herbert category that have the whole package or nearly the whole package. I'll repeat this again. If Purdy had the size and athleticism that the top guys have he would have been a 1st round pick. His other traits are undeniable and he would be a true franchise QB.

Not just a 1st round pick, according to a recent ESPN re-drafting of 2022, Purdy would be the #4 OVERALL draft, despite his lack of "size and athleticism."

What makes Purdy so good is what is between his ears, not his size or athleticism. He is big enough and agile/athletic enough to make plays. However, it is his ability to not just see but to understand what he sees that makes him good.

BP is a unicorn. He sees the game like a 6-year pro. It isn't just Kyle's system that elevated the 49er offense by an average of 10 points per game. It was the operator.

The bolded is so true but overall this is just such a great post. You can train in the weight room and improve speed, strength and quickness.

What you can't do is obtain those elite cognitive skills during off-season camp. His ability to slow the game down and see the entire field so quickly allow him to make great decisions.

Did he make a couple bad throws? Of course he did but the only game he lost as a rookie was the NFC championship and he only lost that due to injury.

My hope is he can heal and have a great follow up season and most importantly, stay healthy. Then the next off season he can work more on strength training which would make him even more of a threat.

Edit grammar

Thanks.

Reports from his pre-draft training camp said strength was not a problem. In fact, they said his thighs were so developed that it was forcing him onto his toes in his throwing motion, causing him accuracy issues, particularly overthrowing high. They put him on a lightweight training regimen to balance out his stance and it not only helped his accuracy, but it also increased his ball speed.

What he needs now is to get healthy.

This is the aspect of having Trey that is being overlooked imo. I think letting Trey start the season and allowing Brock as much time as possible to heal, rather than possibly rushing the process is going to benefit both of them. I loved everything I saw from Purdy and because of what he showed am not afraid of Trey possibly not working out. I consider Brock's play to be the floor of what we can expect from QB play for the next decade or so, and possibly Trey can raise it. If not, Brock has everything we need to win championships. Future is bright.

In an odd way, it is a win/win for us.

Altho this is a BP thread, it could just as easily be a 49er QB thread. The deal between Brock and Trey will ultimately answer itself due to how each of them is physically and where they are in being ready to play football. Once both are healthy, and throwing without discomfort, the play of each QB will determine who starts for us. So for right now, what we do is anyone's guess.

The other question, however, and it is no small matter, is who our #3 QB is. With Jimmy there we were fairly well situated , until the broken foot and then we were left with Brock and Josh Johnson. As we saw, that didn't work out like anyone expected. Basically it proved that we HAVE to have a real 3rd Qb to protect us from injury. When Brock went down, we were screwed QB wise. Both JL and Kyle recognize this so who we finally add as #3 will be interesting.

Darnold? I just can't see it. Teddy Bridgewater…. Has had some great games, unfortunately mixed with some bad ones. Derek Carr is unaffordable and will go to a franchise with NO QB. (ATL, HOU). ARod…ha! He'd be a good pick if we needed a HC and GM also. Imagine AR as a teammate….and nobody wants that. Besides again ,he is unaffordable. That probably means another #232 pick or thereabouts, maybe UDFA. But the likelihood we get a retread like Josh J, is poor. We've done that, and results were disappointing. So look for us taking a late 7th rd pick vs UDFA for our #3 Qb.

Hard to imagine Kyle getting a retread #3 QB with bad habits and will most likely go with a young guy who kyle can coach up. But don't expect another BP…that was an extra-ordinary pick. Superior scouting skills did the job, and KS/JL signed on

Originally posted by socal1632:
Soooooo don't know if this has been reported yet but NBC sports just reported that Brock's S2 cognition test was off the charts. Equal to Mahommes and Allen and Burrow. Now we know why things seemed so slow for him right away and some of the off script plays he made. He scored in the mid 90's. An 80 is elite.

I saw that and that is exactly what all of us were seeing, considering the only mistakes he made was bailing out on some plays early here and there