QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Altho this is a BP thread, it could just as easily be a 49er QB thread. The deal between Brock and Trey will ultimately answer itself due to how each of them is physically and where they are in being ready to play football. Once both are healthy, and throwing without discomfort, the play of each QB will determine who starts for us. So for right now, what we do is anyone's guess.

The other question, however, and it is no small matter, is who our #3 QB is. With Jimmy there we were fairly well situated , until the broken foot and then we were left with Brock and Josh Johnson. As we saw, that didn't work out like anyone expected. Basically it proved that we HAVE to have a real 3rd Qb to protect us from injury. When Brock went down, we were screwed QB wise. Both JL and Kyle recognize this so who we finally add as #3 will be interesting.

Darnold? I just can't see it. Teddy Bridgewater…. Has had some great games, unfortunately mixed with some bad ones. Derek Carr is unaffordable and will go to a franchise with NO QB. (ATL, HOU). ARod…ha! He'd be a good pick if we needed a HC and GM also. Imagine AR as a teammate….and nobody wants that. Besides again ,he is unaffordable. That probably means another #232 pick or thereabouts, maybe UDFA. But the likelihood we get a retread like Josh J, is poor. We've done that, and results were disappointing. So look for us taking a late 7th rd pick vs UDFA for our #3 Qb.

Hard to imagine Kyle getting a retread #3 QB with bad habits and will most likely go with a young guy who kyle can coach up. But don't expect another BP…that was an extra-ordinary pick. Superior scouting skills did the job, and KS/JL signed on

No one expects to be down to their 4th string practice squad QB. Its not common to keep more than 3 QB's on the 53. You cannot expect to have starting quality players waiting in the wings on the practice squad. Last season was very unfortunate. We will sign a vet for between 6-8 million a year to be our #3. We wouldn't even be spending that if Brock were healthy. We may draft a QB, we may pick up an UDFA QB but we shouldn't expect them to be starting quality at all next season. Especially not NFCCG in hostile territory starting quality.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Altho this is a BP thread, it could just as easily be a 49er QB thread. The deal between Brock and Trey will ultimately answer itself due to how each of them is physically and where they are in being ready to play football. Once both are healthy, and throwing without discomfort, the play of each QB will determine who starts for us. So for right now, what we do is anyone's guess.

The other question, however, and it is no small matter, is who our #3 QB is. With Jimmy there we were fairly well situated , until the broken foot and then we were left with Brock and Josh Johnson. As we saw, that didn't work out like anyone expected. Basically it proved that we HAVE to have a real 3rd Qb to protect us from injury. When Brock went down, we were screwed QB wise. Both JL and Kyle recognize this so who we finally add as #3 will be interesting.

Darnold? I just can't see it. Teddy Bridgewater…. Has had some great games, unfortunately mixed with some bad ones. Derek Carr is unaffordable and will go to a franchise with NO QB. (ATL, HOU). ARod…ha! He'd be a good pick if we needed a HC and GM also. Imagine AR as a teammate….and nobody wants that. Besides again ,he is unaffordable. That probably means another #232 pick or thereabouts, maybe UDFA. But the likelihood we get a retread like Josh J, is poor. We've done that, and results were disappointing. So look for us taking a late 7th rd pick vs UDFA for our #3 Qb.

Hard to imagine Kyle getting a retread #3 QB with bad habits and will most likely go with a young guy who kyle can coach up. But don't expect another BP…that was an extra-ordinary pick. Superior scouting skills did the job, and KS/JL signed on

No one expects to be down to their 4th string practice squad QB. Its not common to keep more than 3 QB's on the 53. You cannot expect to have starting quality players waiting in the wings on the practice squad. Last season was very unfortunate. We will sign a vet for between 6-8 million a year to be our #3. We wouldn't even be spending that if Brock were healthy. We may draft a QB, we may pick up an UDFA QB but we shouldn't expect them to be starting quality at all next season. Especially not NFCCG in hostile territory starting quality.

Do you really think so? I'm not sure I'd be the biggest fan of that move. I'm 100% confident in Brock's abilities and just as hopeful in Trey's. I'd much rather put that money towards the OL in an attempt to not need the #3 to ever see the field. I know both Brock and Trey are young, but that isn't a good reason to spend that much on a position with little chance of seeing the field.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Altho this is a BP thread, it could just as easily be a 49er QB thread. The deal between Brock and Trey will ultimately answer itself due to how each of them is physically and where they are in being ready to play football. Once both are healthy, and throwing without discomfort, the play of each QB will determine who starts for us. So for right now, what we do is anyone's guess.

The other question, however, and it is no small matter, is who our #3 QB is. With Jimmy there we were fairly well situated , until the broken foot and then we were left with Brock and Josh Johnson. As we saw, that didn't work out like anyone expected. Basically it proved that we HAVE to have a real 3rd Qb to protect us from injury. When Brock went down, we were screwed QB wise. Both JL and Kyle recognize this so who we finally add as #3 will be interesting.

Darnold? I just can't see it. Teddy Bridgewater…. Has had some great games, unfortunately mixed with some bad ones. Derek Carr is unaffordable and will go to a franchise with NO QB. (ATL, HOU). ARod…ha! He'd be a good pick if we needed a HC and GM also. Imagine AR as a teammate….and nobody wants that. Besides again ,he is unaffordable. That probably means another #232 pick or thereabouts, maybe UDFA. But the likelihood we get a retread like Josh J, is poor. We've done that, and results were disappointing. So look for us taking a late 7th rd pick vs UDFA for our #3 Qb.

Hard to imagine Kyle getting a retread #3 QB with bad habits and will most likely go with a young guy who kyle can coach up. But don't expect another BP…that was an extra-ordinary pick. Superior scouting skills did the job, and KS/JL signed on

No one expects to be down to their 4th string practice squad QB. Its not common to keep more than 3 QB's on the 53. You cannot expect to have starting quality players waiting in the wings on the practice squad. Last season was very unfortunate. We will sign a vet for between 6-8 million a year to be our #3. We wouldn't even be spending that if Brock were healthy. We may draft a QB, we may pick up an UDFA QB but we shouldn't expect them to be starting quality at all next season. Especially not NFCCG in hostile territory starting quality.

Do you really think so? I'm not sure I'd be the biggest fan of that move. I'm 100% confident in Brock's abilities and just as hopeful in Trey's. I'd much rather put that money towards the OL in an attempt to not need the #3 to ever see the field. I know both Brock and Trey are young, but that isn't a good reason to spend that much on a position with little chance of seeing the field.

Like I said, If Brock were healthy than no way we would spend that kind of money. It is unkown when Brock will actually be back. What if Trey goes down before Brock is back, what then?

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Like I said, If Brock were healthy than no way we would spend that kind of money. It is unkown when Brock will actually be back. What if Trey goes down before Brock is back, what then?

Yup TL very injury prone so far, and BP may miss 2023 for all we know.. not saying he will but possible, and by the time we find that out it may be August or Sept, so plan for the worst is wise

"Purdy landed in the mid-90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like," wrote Barrows. "Which is to say, it's elite. The S2 isn't an intelligence test like the 50-question Wonderlic exam but rather measures how quickly and accurately athletes process information. It's like the 40-yard dash for the brain."

Two other current top passers, Patrick Mahomes of the Kansas City Chiefs and Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills, also scored in the same range.

"We consider anything above the 80th percentile to be elite," Ally told Barrows.

Ran a 4.3 on the brain 40-yard dash.

I hope his surgery is successful and is able to fully recovers so he can pick up where he left off.

Kid looked special out there. Can't wait to see what his ceiling looks like.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

"Purdy landed in the mid-90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like," wrote Barrows. "Which is to say, it's elite. The S2 isn't an intelligence test like the 50-question Wonderlic exam but rather measures how quickly and accurately athletes process information. It's like the 40-yard dash for the brain."

Two other current top passers, Patrick Mahomes of the Kansas City Chiefs and Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills, also scored in the same range.

"We consider anything above the 80th percentile to be elite," Ally told Barrows.

Ran a 4.3 on the brain 40-yard dash.

I hope his surgery is successful and is able to fully recovers so he can pick up where he left off.

Kid looked special out there. Can't wait to see what his ceiling looks like.

It's super obvious that he has that. Between the ears is what he has the best.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's super obvious that . . . .

The evidence you are able to provide here is always appreciated. Continue...

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Altho this is a BP thread, it could just as easily be a 49er QB thread. The deal between Brock and Trey will ultimately answer itself due to how each of them is physically and where they are in being ready to play football. Once both are healthy, and throwing without discomfort, the play of each QB will determine who starts for us. So for right now, what we do is anyone's guess.

The other question, however, and it is no small matter, is who our #3 QB is. With Jimmy there we were fairly well situated , until the broken foot and then we were left with Brock and Josh Johnson. As we saw, that didn't work out like anyone expected. Basically it proved that we HAVE to have a real 3rd Qb to protect us from injury. When Brock went down, we were screwed QB wise. Both JL and Kyle recognize this so who we finally add as #3 will be interesting.

Darnold? I just can't see it. Teddy Bridgewater…. Has had some great games, unfortunately mixed with some bad ones. Derek Carr is unaffordable and will go to a franchise with NO QB. (ATL, HOU). ARod…ha! He'd be a good pick if we needed a HC and GM also. Imagine AR as a teammate….and nobody wants that. Besides again ,he is unaffordable. That probably means another #232 pick or thereabouts, maybe UDFA. But the likelihood we get a retread like Josh J, is poor. We've done that, and results were disappointing. So look for us taking a late 7th rd pick vs UDFA for our #3 Qb.

Hard to imagine Kyle getting a retread #3 QB with bad habits and will most likely go with a young guy who kyle can coach up. But don't expect another BP…that was an extra-ordinary pick. Superior scouting skills did the job, and KS/JL signed on

No one expects to be down to their 4th string practice squad QB. Its not common to keep more than 3 QB's on the 53. You cannot expect to have starting quality players waiting in the wings on the practice squad. Last season was very unfortunate. We will sign a vet for between 6-8 million a year to be our #3. We wouldn't even be spending that if Brock were healthy. We may draft a QB, we may pick up an UDFA QB but we shouldn't expect them to be starting quality at all next season. Especially not NFCCG in hostile territory starting quality.

Do you really think so? I'm not sure I'd be the biggest fan of that move. I'm 100% confident in Brock's abilities and just as hopeful in Trey's. I'd much rather put that money towards the OL in an attempt to not need the #3 to ever see the field. I know both Brock and Trey are young, but that isn't a good reason to spend that much on a position with little chance of seeing the field.

Like I said, If Brock were healthy than no way we would spend that kind of money. It is unkown when Brock will actually be back. What if Trey goes down before Brock is back, what then?

You can't tie up millions in a 3rd string QB. That is literally a scout duty guy. If this team loses 2 QB's next season (Last year it was 3-4 lol) then they are not meant to win it all and they are cursed or doomed lol.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Do you really think so? I'm not sure I'd be the biggest fan of that move. I'm 100% confident in Brock's abilities and just as hopeful in Trey's. I'd much rather put that money towards the OL in an attempt to not need the #3 to ever see the field. I know both Brock and Trey are young, but that isn't a good reason to spend that much on a position with little chance of seeing the field.

I'd go with Marcus Mariota as for the "high end" with spending. Can't imagine ATL keeps him.

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
You can't tie up millions in a 3rd string QB. That is l8ter5 a scout duty guy. If this team loses 2 QB's next season (Last year it was 3-4 lol) then they are not meant to win it all and they are cursed or doomed lol.

There isn't a QB in FA that's gonna help this team win a SB regardless. I wouldn't hate a Marcus Mariota type deal though ATL signed him to a 2 yrs $18M deal. Which was really just a one yr deal for $6M. Cap hit was like $4M last yr and $2m in DM this yr for them.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
You can't tie up millions in a 3rd string QB. That is l8ter5 a scout duty guy. If this team loses 2 QB's next season (Last year it was 3-4 lol) then they are not meant to win it all and they are cursed or doomed lol.

There isn't a QB in FA that's gonna help this team win a SB regardless. I wouldn't hate a Marcus Mariota type deal though ATL signed him to a 2 yrs $18M deal. Which was really just a one yr deal for $6M. Cap hit was like $4M last yr and $2m in DM this yr for them.

I would hate more than anything to have to see a third stringer in action again. That would many things went wrong already. Brock stepping in as a third stringer last year was unheard of and I hope the team never feels that desperate again.

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
You can't tie up millions in a 3rd string QB. That is l8ter5 a scout duty guy. If this team loses 2 QB's next season (Last year it was 3-4 lol) then they are not meant to win it all and they are cursed or doomed lol.

There isn't a QB in FA that's gonna help this team win a SB regardless. I wouldn't hate a Marcus Mariota type deal though ATL signed him to a 2 yrs $18M deal. Which was really just a one yr deal for $6M. Cap hit was like $4M last yr and $2m in DM this yr for them.

I would hate more than anything to have to see a third stringer in action again. That would many things went wrong already. Brock stepping in as a third stringer last year was unheard of and I hope the team never feels that desperate again.

I just hope when they pick up a veteran for a 3rd string QB role, he wouldn't be seeing the field at all during the games. But at least he's someone who already had experienced or played with Shanahan and his system. Since he's a 3rd stringer, we're not expecting him to be elite but I prefer someone who's has enough experience and possesses the right character, intelligence and demeanor to be able to assist in the development of our two young QB's, and if ever given the opportunity to play(God forbids that from happening), he's disciplined enough to be able to execute his role.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Like I said, If Brock were healthy than no way we would spend that kind of money. It is unkown when Brock will actually be back. What if Trey goes down before Brock is back, what then?

Once the surgery is completed, we will be a lot closer to answering those questions.

Originally posted by 49erF90:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
You can't tie up millions in a 3rd string QB. That is l8ter5 a scout duty guy. If this team loses 2 QB's next season (Last year it was 3-4 lol) then they are not meant to win it all and they are cursed or doomed lol.

There isn't a QB in FA that's gonna help this team win a SB regardless. I wouldn't hate a Marcus Mariota type deal though ATL signed him to a 2 yrs $18M deal. Which was really just a one yr deal for $6M. Cap hit was like $4M last yr and $2m in DM this yr for them.

I would hate more than anything to have to see a third stringer in action again. That would many things went wrong already. Brock stepping in as a third stringer last year was unheard of and I hope the team never feels that desperate again.

I just hope when they pick up a veteran for a 3rd string QB role, he wouldn't be seeing the field at all during the games. But at least he's someone who already had experienced or played with Shanahan and his system. Since he's a 3rd stringer, we're not expecting him to be elite but I prefer someone who's has enough experience and possesses the right character, intelligence and demeanor to be able to assist in the development of our two young QB's, and if ever given the opportunity to play(God forbids that from happening), he's disciplined enough to be able to execute his role.

Agreed. That said a third stringer is never supposed to see the field. If he does your team is desperate and has their first and second already hurt. If that happens to the 49ers again, godspeed

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

"Purdy landed in the mid-90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like," wrote Barrows. "Which is to say, it's elite. The S2 isn't an intelligence test like the 50-question Wonderlic exam but rather measures how quickly and accurately athletes process information. It's like the 40-yard dash for the brain."

Two other current top passers, Patrick Mahomes of the Kansas City Chiefs and Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills, also scored in the same range.

"We consider anything above the 80th percentile to be elite," Ally told Barrows.

Ran a 4.3 on the brain 40-yard dash.

I hope his surgery is successful and is able to fully recovers so he can pick up where he left off.

Kid looked special out there. Can't wait to see what his ceiling looks like.

It's super obvious that he has that. Between the ears is what he has the best.