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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
NC s**t on Laken for years....dude was the epitome of continuity and unity in SF. Never missed a game and him and Joe/Trent worked that left side for years. Laken is gone and now it's all of a sudden a big deal lol? I always said he was a fine LG and did his job....wasn't enough for some in here and now those same people are complaining he's gone (and got paid). Turns out he might actually be better compared to the rest of the league and what they have on the interior. shocker.

I'm not a massive Banks fan, but I also haven't seen what he's been doing behind the scenes for a year now. I thought he had slow feet and would still get out muscled even though he's bigger than everyone. Maybe a year in the weight room and fixing his body will do the trick (plus being next to Trent). It also looks like they will be running more power/inside to off set how defenses are lining up to stop the wide zone.

I don't think Brunskill is amazing, but he's another guy that fits the whole continuity and unity thing that people are complaining about. Multiple year starter here, been in this scheme even longer.

In a ideal world you get 5 pro-bowl OL that have played together without missing a snap for 3 to 4 years...that in most cases isn't reality.

People want continuity, yet also want SF to get different IOL all the same lol? Hard to have continuity and unity when you also want different players.

Here we go

Round one……fight!

NC your turn

***Ding Ding***

"Get up you sonofab***h. Mickey loves ya!"


Laken was only crapped on where he crapped the bed...pass protection and key penalties esp. inside the RZ. When you put your QB on I.R. twice in the same year on failed pass protection sets, you've got issues, esp. when playing next to Joe Staley and Trent Williams your entire career. Had that happened to a QB like Brady, Mahomes, Burrow, etc. those coaches would have bought and drafted a new G the following off season.

Oh wait...

On the real, I was all for keeping Laken for the stability, continuity and because we already had enough question marks on the OL with a new QB about to start. He also had his best year overall last year so his steady improvement was encouraging. We were also going to move to more power, gap, Inside zone, pulling, etc. and thought he would be an excellent fit for that. He's our only good pulling guard. He was already an excellent run blocker and this would have given him the chance to play at that new contract.

Brunskill stinks at G (worse at C) and stability is not why one should stick with him. He doesn't have first round talent like Tomlinson did. He's an UDFA, plays like one over time and is best served as a top utility player who can get you through a few games when needed.

Continuity was thrown out the window when they let Tomlinson get away and Mack retired. So that's moot either way.

***Ding Ding***

If we want continuity we'd probably want Moore to beat out brunskilk for that rg spot because if Moore has been learning rg the past year then he'd probably have more chemistry with lance and Brendel than Brunskill
Originally posted by NYniner85:
NC s**t on Laken for years....dude was the epitome of continuity and unity in SF. Never missed a game and him and Joe/Trent worked that left side for years. Laken is gone and now it's all of a sudden a big deal lol? I always said he was a fine LG and did his job....wasn't enough for some in here and now those same people are complaining he's gone (and got paid). Turns out he might actually be better compared to the rest of the league and what they have on the interior. shocker.

I'm not a massive Banks fan, but I also haven't seen what he's been doing behind the scenes for a year now. I thought he had slow feet and would still get out muscled even though he's bigger than everyone. Maybe a year in the weight room and fixing his body will do the trick (plus being next to Trent). It also looks like they will be running more power/inside to off set how defenses are lining up to stop the wide zone.

I don't think Brunskill is amazing, but he's another guy that fits the whole continuity and unity thing that people are complaining about. Multiple year starter here, been in this scheme even longer.

In a ideal world you get 5 pro-bowl OL that have played together without missing a snap for 3 to 4 years...that in most cases isn't reality.

People want continuity, yet also want SF to get different IOL all the same lol? Hard to have continuity and unity when you also want different players.

The laken stuff was/is pretty hilarious. Heard nothing about how awful he was in PP (like worst inthe league type talk) single-handedly getting his QB IR'd multiple times, etc etc. I would think him leaving would he addition by subtraction 🤣
Originally posted by NCommand:
I lost it!

No response from NY yet? Must be changing diapers; Daddy Dootie literally taking precedence over webzone debate
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I lost it!

No response from NY yet? Must be changing diapers; Daddy Dootie literally taking precedence over webzone debate

Haha. Never underestimate NY's stamina. He can go 12 rounds in his sleep.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
The laken stuff was/is pretty hilarious. Heard nothing about how awful he was in PP (like worst inthe league type talk) single-handedly getting his QB IR'd multiple times, etc etc. I would think him leaving would he addition by subtraction 🤣

Like this old post:

Go deeper into PFF to their advanced PBE metric and you'll see he's annually at the bottom. But you know that so you stick to the surface level stat.

Here you go. Most of these are under 2 seconds and slowed down to 75%. JD believes the last one ended his season for good.

bad oline

I'm impressed you actually held LT responsible for the QW injury! That's a start given the only time I've ever seen you hold OL accountable for anything was in defending Patrick Mahomes in the Superbowl...with poor pass protection.

But hey, it lead to JG getting that injury-prone label and that finally got you that mobile QB so let's move on to Banks. Tomlinson is what he is and is very consistent in his two skill sets and may be on his last year here.

I agree...let's move on to Banks/Moore. They are most likely the future at G anyway.


PS: Jeff Deeney confirmed the same pattern in PBE. Here are his ranks out of qualified G's:

2020: 40/58 in PBE / 2019: 41/62 in PBE

Low and behold, Laken improved in 2021. I guess both can be true. He wasn't very good in pass protection, he got better but it's still his weakness. Odd concept.

49ers808, it looks like NY tagged in Hoov. I'm done with him so I'm tagging NinerGM in Rock-n-Roll Express style.
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
If we want continuity we'd probably want Moore to beat out brunskilk for that rg spot because if Moore has been learning rg the past year then he'd probably have more chemistry with lance and Brendel than Brunskill

I agree. I'll wait to see how Brendel holds up but I'd love to see West or Poe take over at some point soon as the long term answer with youth.

Ideally, you'd have above average play with;

Trent Williams
Aaron Banks
Dohnovan West
Jaylon Moore
Spencer Burford/Mike McGlinchey (resigned?)

Then you can start stockpiling talent at LT with TW's age and try to upgrade Moore/West.

It'll take a few years before we can talk about continuity but at least they'd be young and growing together with Trey.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Like this old post:

Go deeper into PFF to their advanced PBE metric and you'll see he's annually at the bottom. But you know that so you stick to the surface level stat.

Here you go. Most of these are under 2 seconds and slowed down to 75%. JD believes the last one ended his season for good.

bad oline

I'm impressed you actually held LT responsible for the QW injury! That's a start given the only time I've ever seen you hold OL accountable for anything was in defending Patrick Mahomes in the Superbowl...with poor pass protection.

But hey, it lead to JG getting that injury-prone label and that finally got you that mobile QB so let's move on to Banks. Tomlinson is what he is and is very consistent in his two skill sets and may be on his last year here.

I agree...let's move on to Banks/Moore. They are most likely the future at G anyway.


PS: Jeff Deeney confirmed the same pattern in PBE. Here are his ranks out of qualified G's:

2020: 40/58 in PBE / 2019: 41/62 in PBE

Low and behold, Laken improved in 2021. I guess both can be true. He wasn't very good in pass protection, he got better but it's still his weakness. Odd concept.

49ers808, it looks like NY tagged in Hoov. I'm done with him so I'm tagging NinerGM in Rock-n-Roll Express style.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Never underestimate NY's stamina. He can go 12 rounds in his sleep.

Ummm gross? The baby yours NC?
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Never underestimate NY's stamina. He can go 12 rounds in his sleep.

Ummm gross? The baby yours NC?

Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
The laken stuff was/is pretty hilarious. Heard nothing about how awful he was in PP (like worst inthe league type talk) single-handedly getting his QB IR'd multiple times, etc etc. I would think him leaving would he addition by subtraction 🤣

Like this old post:

Go deeper into PFF to their advanced PBE metric and you'll see he's annually at the bottom. But you know that so you stick to the surface level stat.

Here you go. Most of these are under 2 seconds and slowed down to 75%. JD believes the last one ended his season for good.

bad oline

I'm impressed you actually held LT responsible for the QW injury! That's a start given the only time I've ever seen you hold OL accountable for anything was in defending Patrick Mahomes in the Superbowl...with poor pass protection.

But hey, it lead to JG getting that injury-prone label and that finally got you that mobile QB so let's move on to Banks. Tomlinson is what he is and is very consistent in his two skill sets and may be on his last year here.

I agree...let's move on to Banks/Moore. They are most likely the future at G anyway.


PS: Jeff Deeney confirmed the same pattern in PBE. Here are his ranks out of qualified G's:

2020: 40/58 in PBE / 2019: 41/62 in PBE

Low and behold, Laken improved in 2021. I guess both can be true. He wasn't very good in pass protection, he got better but it's still his weakness. Odd concept.

49ers808, it looks like NY tagged in Hoov. I'm done with him so I'm tagging NinerGM in Rock-n-Roll Express style.

Lol ok
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
This was pretty good regarding our OLine


TY! I was going to post this one today. He's spot on with the importance of unity and how he'd rather have 5 quality players than two top end tackles and question marks inside (us currently). Bingo.
ah the perfect roster with top end talent at every position.. never will happen

Bro, do you ever get the point? LOL
please tell me what is the point

He was assessing where our OL is today and as a former professional OL, noted how important continuity and unity (playing with the guy on your right/left/both) is crucial to unit success. You DON'T need to have 5 all pro's but a talented enough unit that can play perfectly in unison. Of that, he'd prefer 5 really solid OL playing together over 2 terrific tackles and 3 meh players...meaning talent is still important and that talent together is even more important. Meaning if the 3 inside stink, the 2 terrific tackles will be moot.

Agree with the Video that good, above average, talent across the board on the OLine -- is better than two hall of fame players, and the rest of the OLIne being below average. Specially if they all have played together for a long time. What I will also add is that you can have above average (but not all pro level talent) on that OLine, but if they are smart, that multiplies their talents towards a better level of play. The varied blocks and angles that Kyle uses for his run game is breathtakingly complex and deep. Just the ability to memorize the plays and all the many ways an OLineman can block his defender - with regards to the play call is an important skill too. A big key to Kyle's OLine (as it was with Walsh and McKittrick) is their athleticism *and* their smarts. This is still a timing and precision offense. If Mike Person would been smart and used a cut block on Chris Jones on that 3rd down play in the Lombardi game, and brought Chris' hands down, I think Jimmy completes that slant pass. In other words, being smart -- in Kyle's offensive blocking scheme -- can be a talent multiplier.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
This was pretty good regarding our OLine


TY! I was going to post this one today. He's spot on with the importance of unity and how he'd rather have 5 quality players than two top end tackles and question marks inside (us currently). Bingo.
ah the perfect roster with top end talent at every position.. never will happen

Bro, do you ever get the point? LOL
please tell me what is the point

He was assessing where our OL is today and as a former professional OL, noted how important continuity and unity (playing with the guy on your right/left/both) is crucial to unit success. You DON'T need to have 5 all pro's but a talented enough unit that can play perfectly in unison. Of that, he'd prefer 5 really solid OL playing together over 2 terrific tackles and 3 meh players...meaning talent is still important and that talent together is even more important. Meaning if the 3 inside stink, the 2 terrific tackles will be moot.

Agree with the Video that good, above average, talent across the board on the OLine -- is better than two hall of fame players, and the rest of the OLIne being below average. Specially if they all have played together for a long time. What I will also add is that you can have above average (but not all pro level talent) on that OLine, but if they are smart, that multiplies their talents towards a better level of play. The varied blocks and angles that Kyle uses for his run game is breathtakingly complex and deep. Just the ability to memorize the plays and all the many ways an OLineman can block his defender - with regards to the play call is an important skill too. A big key to Kyle's OLine (as it was with Walsh and McKittrick) is their athleticism *and* their smarts. This is still a timing and precision offense. If Mike Person would been smart and used a cut block on Chris Jones on that 3rd down play in the Lombardi game, and brought Chris' hands down, I think Jimmy completes that slant pass. In other words, being smart -- in Kyle's offensive blocking scheme -- can be a talent multiplier.

Oh for sure. I wish I still had the tweet but an OL expert listed all the different types of running plays Kyle called in one specific game and it was insane.

I fully agree with the athleticism + high football IQ.

That said, if we're moving to more gap, power and IZ, you're going to need stronger players. Mack, Garland, Brunskill, Person, Compton, MM, etc. really struggled holding the point at the LOS against some DL's and specific DL on strength alone. That was one of the reasons they struggled in 3rd and 4th in short and the RZ.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
This was pretty good regarding our OLine


TY! I was going to post this one today. He's spot on with the importance of unity and how he'd rather have 5 quality players than two top end tackles and question marks inside (us currently). Bingo.
ah the perfect roster with top end talent at every position.. never will happen

Bro, do you ever get the point? LOL
please tell me what is the point

He was assessing where our OL is today and as a former professional OL, noted how important continuity and unity (playing with the guy on your right/left/both) is crucial to unit success. You DON'T need to have 5 all pro's but a talented enough unit that can play perfectly in unison. Of that, he'd prefer 5 really solid OL playing together over 2 terrific tackles and 3 meh players...meaning talent is still important and that talent together is even more important. Meaning if the 3 inside stink, the 2 terrific tackles will be moot.

Agree with the Video that good, above average, talent across the board on the OLine -- is better than two hall of fame players, and the rest of the OLIne being below average. Specially if they all have played together for a long time. What I will also add is that you can have above average (but not all pro level talent) on that OLine, but if they are smart, that multiplies their talents towards a better level of play. The varied blocks and angles that Kyle uses for his run game is breathtakingly complex and deep. Just the ability to memorize the plays and all the many ways an OLineman can block his defender - with regards to the play call is an important skill too. A big key to Kyle's OLine (as it was with Walsh and McKittrick) is their athleticism *and* their smarts. This is still a timing and precision offense. If Mike Person would been smart and used a cut block on Chris Jones on that 3rd down play in the Lombardi game, and brought Chris' hands down, I think Jimmy completes that slant pass. In other words, being smart -- in Kyle's offensive blocking scheme -- can be a talent multiplier.

Oh for sure. I wish I still had the tweet but an OL expert listed all the different types of running plays Kyle called in one specific game and it was insane.

I fully agree with the athleticism + high football IQ.

That said, if we're moving to more gap, power and IZ, you're going to need stronger players. Mack, Garland, Brunskill, Person, Compton, MM, etc. really struggled holding the point at the LOS against some DL's and specific DL on strength alone. That was one of the reasons they struggled in 3rd and 4th in short and the RZ.

I don't think Kyle's going to be a predominantly Inside Zone or Gap and Power. I think he'll want more of a mix, with the outside zone predominant. I think Trey's mobility plus a slight preponderance of the outside zone will be that sweet spot. One reason is that Steve Young was basically unstoppable on that boot action play back in the days. There will still be a good mixture of inside zone and power, and that will cross up those DLinemen keying in on the outside zone concepts. Trey has an unusual accuracy while on the run, and I think Kyle will take advantage of that.

I don't think Kyle needs to get bigger OLinemen to convert those third or fourth and shorts. Trey is that 11th man on the run that the defenses will have trouble containing if they load up on the run in trying to stop Mitchell and company. However, I think Kyle IS getting bigger OLinemen to Beef up, so to speak, his inside power game. Banks, Zakelj, Sutherland, and Moore are unusually big for Kyle's typical OLinemen. I think, as you said, those bigger and more powerful guards can really do some inside run damage - and they are still athletic enough to run Kyle's outside zone.

P.S. I love Poe's skill set. I'd list him as a TE. He can come in on 3rd and short or Goal line, and make that OLIne unbalanced, and he can come in on other downs without having the refs announce that he's eligible as a pass receiver. Can you imagine Poe - going in motion - and trap blocking Aaron Donald?
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
This was pretty good regarding our OLine


TY! I was going to post this one today. He's spot on with the importance of unity and how he'd rather have 5 quality players than two top end tackles and question marks inside (us currently). Bingo.
ah the perfect roster with top end talent at every position.. never will happen

Bro, do you ever get the point? LOL
please tell me what is the point

He was assessing where our OL is today and as a former professional OL, noted how important continuity and unity (playing with the guy on your right/left/both) is crucial to unit success. You DON'T need to have 5 all pro's but a talented enough unit that can play perfectly in unison. Of that, he'd prefer 5 really solid OL playing together over 2 terrific tackles and 3 meh players...meaning talent is still important and that talent together is even more important. Meaning if the 3 inside stink, the 2 terrific tackles will be moot.

Agree with the Video that good, above average, talent across the board on the OLine -- is better than two hall of fame players, and the rest of the OLIne being below average. Specially if they all have played together for a long time. What I will also add is that you can have above average (but not all pro level talent) on that OLine, but if they are smart, that multiplies their talents towards a better level of play. The varied blocks and angles that Kyle uses for his run game is breathtakingly complex and deep. Just the ability to memorize the plays and all the many ways an OLineman can block his defender - with regards to the play call is an important skill too. A big key to Kyle's OLine (as it was with Walsh and McKittrick) is their athleticism *and* their smarts. This is still a timing and precision offense. If Mike Person would been smart and used a cut block on Chris Jones on that 3rd down play in the Lombardi game, and brought Chris' hands down, I think Jimmy completes that slant pass. In other words, being smart -- in Kyle's offensive blocking scheme -- can be a talent multiplier.

Oh for sure. I wish I still had the tweet but an OL expert listed all the different types of running plays Kyle called in one specific game and it was insane.

I fully agree with the athleticism + high football IQ.

That said, if we're moving to more gap, power and IZ, you're going to need stronger players. Mack, Garland, Brunskill, Person, Compton, MM, etc. really struggled holding the point at the LOS against some DL's and specific DL on strength alone. That was one of the reasons they struggled in 3rd and 4th in short and the RZ.

I don't think Kyle's going to be a predominantly Inside Zone or Gap and Power. I think he'll want more of a mix, with the outside zone predominant. I think Trey's mobility plus a slight preponderance of the outside zone will be that sweet spot. One reason is that Steve Young was basically unstoppable on that boot action play back in the days. There will still be a good mixture of inside zone and power, and that will cross up those DLinemen keying in on the outside zone concepts. Trey has an unusual accuracy while on the run, and I think Kyle will take advantage of that.

I don't think Kyle needs to get bigger OLinemen to convert those third or fourth and shorts. Trey is that 11th man on the run that the defenses will have trouble containing if they load up on the run in trying to stop Mitchell and company. However, I think Kyle IS getting bigger OLinemen to Beef up, so to speak, his inside power game. Banks, Zakelj, Sutherland, and Moore are unusually big for Kyle's typical OLinemen. I think, as you said, those bigger and more powerful guards can really do some inside run damage - and they are still athletic enough to run Kyle's outside zone.

P.S. I love Poe's skill set. I'd list him as a TE. He can come in on 3rd and short or Goal line, and make that OLIne unbalanced, and he can come in on other downs without having the refs announce that he's eligible as a pass receiver. Can you imagine Poe - going in motion - and trap blocking Aaron Donald?

I think what type of runs the 49ers use in that day's gameplan will be influenced by what type of defensive front the opponent comes out with. I can imagine Lance having the freedom to check into the type of run play, at the line of scrimmage, that best suits the situation, on a per play basis. Kyle drafting bigger RB/OL will give him the flexibility he wants to execute outside zone and gap concepts. We'll see how well it comes together since he just lost his run game coordinator (McDaniel).
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
This was pretty good regarding our OLine


TY! I was going to post this one today. He's spot on with the importance of unity and how he'd rather have 5 quality players than two top end tackles and question marks inside (us currently). Bingo.
ah the perfect roster with top end talent at every position.. never will happen

Bro, do you ever get the point? LOL
please tell me what is the point

He was assessing where our OL is today and as a former professional OL, noted how important continuity and unity (playing with the guy on your right/left/both) is crucial to unit success. You DON'T need to have 5 all pro's but a talented enough unit that can play perfectly in unison. Of that, he'd prefer 5 really solid OL playing together over 2 terrific tackles and 3 meh players...meaning talent is still important and that talent together is even more important. Meaning if the 3 inside stink, the 2 terrific tackles will be moot.

Agree with the Video that good, above average, talent across the board on the OLine -- is better than two hall of fame players, and the rest of the OLIne being below average. Specially if they all have played together for a long time. What I will also add is that you can have above average (but not all pro level talent) on that OLine, but if they are smart, that multiplies their talents towards a better level of play. The varied blocks and angles that Kyle uses for his run game is breathtakingly complex and deep. Just the ability to memorize the plays and all the many ways an OLineman can block his defender - with regards to the play call is an important skill too. A big key to Kyle's OLine (as it was with Walsh and McKittrick) is their athleticism *and* their smarts. This is still a timing and precision offense. If Mike Person would been smart and used a cut block on Chris Jones on that 3rd down play in the Lombardi game, and brought Chris' hands down, I think Jimmy completes that slant pass. In other words, being smart -- in Kyle's offensive blocking scheme -- can be a talent multiplier.

Oh for sure. I wish I still had the tweet but an OL expert listed all the different types of running plays Kyle called in one specific game and it was insane.

I fully agree with the athleticism + high football IQ.

That said, if we're moving to more gap, power and IZ, you're going to need stronger players. Mack, Garland, Brunskill, Person, Compton, MM, etc. really struggled holding the point at the LOS against some DL's and specific DL on strength alone. That was one of the reasons they struggled in 3rd and 4th in short and the RZ.

I don't think Kyle's going to be a predominantly Inside Zone or Gap and Power. I think he'll want more of a mix, with the outside zone predominant. I think Trey's mobility plus a slight preponderance of the outside zone will be that sweet spot. One reason is that Steve Young was basically unstoppable on that boot action play back in the days. There will still be a good mixture of inside zone and power, and that will cross up those DLinemen keying in on the outside zone concepts. Trey has an unusual accuracy while on the run, and I think Kyle will take advantage of that.

I don't think Kyle needs to get bigger OLinemen to convert those third or fourth and shorts. Trey is that 11th man on the run that the defenses will have trouble containing if they load up on the run in trying to stop Mitchell and company. However, I think Kyle IS getting bigger OLinemen to Beef up, so to speak, his inside power game. Banks, Zakelj, Sutherland, and Moore are unusually big for Kyle's typical OLinemen. I think, as you said, those bigger and more powerful guards can really do some inside run damage - and they are still athletic enough to run Kyle's outside zone.

P.S. I love Poe's skill set. I'd list him as a TE. He can come in on 3rd and short or Goal line, and make that OLIne unbalanced, and he can come in on other downs without having the refs announce that he's eligible as a pass receiver. Can you imagine Poe - going in motion - and trap blocking Aaron Donald?

I think what type of runs the 49ers use in that day's gameplan will be influenced by what type of defensive front the opponent comes out with. I can imagine Lance having the freedom to check into the type of run play, at the line of scrimmage, that best suits the situation, on a per play basis. Kyle drafting bigger RB/OL will give him the flexibility he wants to execute outside zone and gap concepts. We'll see how well it comes together since he just lost his run game coordinator (McDaniel).

Personally I think Kyle is going to destroy any fast break defenses (i.e. nickel defenses) with the kind of run game he's developing. As for typical Vic Fangio slow 3-4 defenses, I think Kyle's outside zone runs will take care of those kinds of slow - linebacker centric - defenses. All in all, I'm actually more excited for Kyle's run offense vs his pass offense under Trey. Although, I already know Trey is going to turbo charge Kyle's passing game with his god given talents.
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