Will our offense be different with Lance?

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
It's gonna be more run heavy but when they do pass it won't just be over the middle or behind the line of scrimmage. Every blade of grass has to be accounted for and that includes deep down the sidelines.

Agreed. I was just talking about the guys claiming we were going to air it out now that Trey is starting. It's like thry don't know how our coach coaches. He could have the best passer in the history of the NFL and he'd still be a guy who wants to establish the run.

I'd count on Trey getting 20-25 passes a game if Shanahan has his way. The inexperience along the offensive line, combined with Trey still being a bit green dictate that. If we average much more than that, it will be because we are being forced to throw. I believe that is also why we moved on from the smaller backs to hooefully more durable ones.

I think they are going to play it like Pittsburgh did with Roethlisberger (hopefully without the rapey part), lean on the defense, running game, and special teams and give Trey all of the support they can. Which gives Trey the best chance to succeed.

I can definitely see Ben's first 4 seasons as the model for Trey. Once they won that Super Bowl, I saw them as a passing team with a bottomless pit of good receivers.

More long field passes with Trey.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by random49er:
A huge chunk of Jimmy's passes were really glorified runs anyway. Let's not pretend like had some huge passing offense to begin with.

Who's pretending?

The poster below is...

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

All of you guys thinking that there's going to be more passing plays called are gonna be really disappointed. This team is going to run even more than they did with Jimmy.

Our goal isint to match an inflated number of pass attempts that were in large part, really runs. Attaining the same pass/run ratio isint some spectacular feat....but who cares? We want to be more efficient on offense.

Tell me the ppg the offense has. More or less passing isint saying much as stated before. More efficient passing, more of a threat around the field passing,...can open up more of the playbook and be monumental.

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Its in Kyle's playbook from 2018. They're Go routes vs bump man and convert to stop-go's vs cushion. We've ran it a number of times. Think of a deep curl route we hit Aiyuk on against the Pats in 2020, was this same play.

Saw you on the John Chapman podcast. Good job. Look foward to seeing your film breakdowns this year.

Thank ya thank ya. John was super cool, he's gonna be on my channel hopefully a week from Thursday

Originally posted by mayo49:
More long field passes with Trey.

I love that dual threat Trey is. Hopefully he's a Rams, Cardinal, and Seadderall killer the way Midget Wilson was with us, with his dangerous mobility and rifle arm. I'd love to give back some heartbreaking losses to seadderall that seadderall had caused us, back in the day!

Originally posted by Giedi:
I love that dual threat Trey is. Hopefully he's a Rams, Cardinal, and Seadderall killer the way Midget Wilson was with us, with his dangerous mobility and rifle arm. I'd love to give back some heartbreaking losses to seadderall that seadderall had caused us, back in the day!

Russ didn't really kill us all that often. He actually wasn't good against the 9ers most of the time when the 9ers were actually good.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I love that dual threat Trey is. Hopefully he's a Rams, Cardinal, and Seadderall killer the way Midget Wilson was with us, with his dangerous mobility and rifle arm. I'd love to give back some heartbreaking losses to seadderall that seadderall had caused us, back in the day!

Russ didn't really kill us all that often. He actually wasn't good against the 9ers most of the time when the 9ers were actually good.

Felt the opposite, especially on defense. We could never sack the dude. Then I watch Russ get sacked like 5 times on Monday night. Felt like he saved his better games for us

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by random49er:
A huge chunk of Jimmy's passes were really glorified runs anyway. Let's not pretend like had some huge passing offense to begin with.

Who's pretending?

The poster below is...

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

All of you guys thinking that there's going to be more passing plays called are gonna be really disappointed. This team is going to run even more than they did with Jimmy.

Our goal isint to match an inflated number of pass attempts that were in large part, really runs. Attaining the same pass/run ratio isint some spectacular feat....but who cares? We want to be more efficient on offense.

Tell me the ppg the offense has. More or less passing isint saying much as stated before. More efficient passing, more of a threat around the field passing,...can open up more of the playbook and be monumental.

Your pass attempts are really runs attempts makes little sense. The team is going to run more than they did with Jimmy, there will be more qb runs by design. If you want to pretend that passing the ball is running the ball though, you go right ahead, but don't project your fallacy onto me.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Its in Kyle's playbook from 2018. They're Go routes vs bump man and convert to stop-go's vs cushion. We've ran it a number of times. Think of a deep curl route we hit Aiyuk on against the Pats in 2020, was this same play.

Saw you on the John Chapman podcast. Good job. Look foward to seeing your film breakdowns this year.

Thank ya thank ya. John was super cool, he's gonna be on my channel hopefully a week from Thursday

Really looking forwards to it man.

It'll be interesting to see how they use Trey…. We know the differences. He can throw deep. He can throw outside. He can run. The question for me is how accurate and consistent he will be making the throws we've grown accustomed to. Over the middle, and short around the line of scrimmage. What will be the distribution of all that?

If we don't know, the bears week 1 don't either.

Originally posted by davidboutte:
It'll be interesting to see how they use Trey…. We know the differences. He can throw deep. He can throw outside. He can run. The question for me is how accurate and consistent he will be making the throws we've grown accustomed to. Over the middle, and short around the line of scrimmage. What will be the distribution of all that?

If we don't know, the bears week 1 don't either.

I'd bet they sellout to stop the run. Load up the box and try to force the ball in Treys hands. I believe Trey will definitely have some one on one opportunities with his WRs and needs to hit them to ease the box and make them think twice in doing so. If I were Shanahan, I'd call a deep ball right of the bat and tell Trey if nobody's open to just overthrow someone. Give that D Coordinator something to think about. Or we could always do what we've been doing and smashmouth into those loaded boxes anyways and just try to out physical them. Some sprinkled in read options; RPOs and boots. Can't wait

Teams are going to blitz and stack the box against Trey until he proves he's a legit passing threat. Every team knows Kyle wants to run the ball so until Trey can prove he can hurt opposing defenses passing defenses are going to stack. They'll learn eventually

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Teams are going to blitz and stack the box against Trey until he proves he's a legit passing threat. Every team knows Kyle wants to run the ball so until Trey can prove he can hurt opposing defenses passing defenses are going to stack. They'll learn eventually

Prey, errrr, prAy, for Trey!

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Teams are going to blitz and stack the box against Trey until he proves he's a legit passing threat. Every team knows Kyle wants to run the ball so until Trey can prove he can hurt opposing defenses passing defenses are going to stack. They'll learn eventually

I believe this to a certain extent but Trey will also play a role in the running game. Who do you attack if Trey, Eli and Deebo are all in the backfield together? How many defenders can a defense stack in the box when Aiyuk and Gray are on the outside? I am sure Kyle and Trey are salivating at the idea of defenses giving them 1 on 1 matchups on the outside.

They already put on tape in the pre season of what they will do if defenses decide to leave 1 v 1 matchups on the outside. Yes. It was pre season but I bet Kyle is daring them to which is why he put it on tape.