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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:
Trey throwing a lot of deep passes in the pre season is going to have DCs game plan for our offense all wrong. What'll end up happening is that we haven't even really shown our running game yet and once we do it becomes pick your poison: Load the box and have Trey find the mismatch outside; spread the DBs back and get pushed around for wide open running lanes for our backs.

I just hope the O-Line can provide enough protection for the former.

Good post. Absolutely agree

It's going to be tough to figure out how to gameplan against Lance and the 49ers.

- If you stack the box, Trey is showing he has the capability to kill you deep.
- If you do the opposite and play 2 safeties high, now your front 7 has to deal with the 49ers run scheme without an extra defender in the box.
- If you play a lot of Man, that might work, but you'll need to make sure you have a dedicated Spy on Trey, because he could run.
- If you dedicate a Spy on Trey, that's one less guy to cover Juice or one of the RB's.

Add in the fact that the offense is constantly shifting, and Shanahan is good about calling against opposing defensive coordinators... it's going to be a nightmare once Trey gets going.

Agreed if the o line can hold up.

That's true.
If our o-line can't hold up, then that means it also starts limiting what Shanahan can call:
  • It means Kittle and/or Juice have to stay in for pass protection.
  • It means longer developing pass plays may not be available.
  • It means well-called plays can get busted up.

Football's fun.
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:
Trey throwing a lot of deep passes in the pre season is going to have DCs game plan for our offense all wrong. What'll end up happening is that we haven't even really shown our running game yet and once we do it becomes pick your poison: Load the box and have Trey find the mismatch outside; spread the DBs back and get pushed around for wide open running lanes for our backs.

I just hope the O-Line can provide enough protection for the former.

Good post. Absolutely agree

It's going to be tough to figure out how to gameplan against Lance and the 49ers.

- If you stack the box, Trey is showing he has the capability to kill you deep.
- If you do the opposite and play 2 safeties high, now your front 7 has to deal with the 49ers run scheme without an extra defender in the box.
- If you play a lot of Man, that might work, but you'll need to make sure you have a dedicated Spy on Trey, because he could run.
- If you dedicate a Spy on Trey, that's one less guy to cover Juice or one of the RB's.

Add in the fact that the offense is constantly shifting, and Shanahan is good about calling against opposing defensive coordinators... it's going to be a nightmare once Trey gets going.

Agreed if the o line can hold up.

That's true.
If our o-line can't hold up, then that means it also starts limiting what Shanahan can call:
  • It means Kittle and/or Juice have to stay in for pass protection.
  • It means longer developing pass plays may not be available.
  • It means well-called plays can get busted up.

Football's fun.

Smart man!
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Another angle.

Too easy. Trey should take something more challenging, like Jimmy quick strike between the numbers with a safety sitting on top.
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:




Damn Gray had him beat by 3-4 yards. Trey underthrew it and it still didn't matter. Gonna be a fun combo to watch!

The ball was in the air 50 yards when Gray caught it. The ball was slightly under thrown, but Gray beat Patrick Peterson so badly that it didn't matter. No shade, but you NEVER saw that from Jimmy G.

You never saw Jimmy G underthrow a receiver? What??

I think he meant we never saw Jimmy G throw deep lol.

Exactly!

Jimmy's issues with the deep ball IMO were related to his lower half and not his arm. I mean even Shaun Hill had a pretty accurate deep ball and his arm was one of the worst I've ever seen. One of the things that made Jimmy so good in short to intermediate passes was adversely the same reason he struggled to throw deep… his footwork.

Trey has shown in a limited sample size that he can launch deep passes without a massive hitch like Jeff Garcia used to do in every drop back. That means he has potential to hit quick strikes and threaten defenses in the deeper parts of the field. I think he's got a ways to go before he's on Jimmy's level in terms of throwing over the middle but he has all the tools that Jimmy didn't.

I think he's closer than you think. The Trey to Aiyuk in the Houston game over the middle last year for a huge gain was a classic Jimmy over the middle pass, between three defenders.
Originally posted by Wubbie:
That's true.
If our o-line can't hold up, then that means it also starts limiting what Shanahan can call:
  • It means Kittle and/or Juice have to stay in for pass protection.
  • It means longer developing pass plays may not be available.
  • It means well-called plays can get busted up.

Football's fun.

The first part isn't totally true, Kittle/Juice will chip guys (like they're always done) they're not ultimately "staying in to block" unless they're picking up blitzers for the most part.

well called plays can also help poor PP. A QB knowing were to go quickly (pre-snap) negates stuff, but yes we can't have a bunch of road cones in there pass-protecting. I'm still concerned with the center situation.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Aug 17, 2022 at 1:13 PM ]
I'm just glad Trey is connecting on deep balls. I'd rather him under throw it a little bit then overthrow it like or completely miss like you know who
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:




Damn Gray had him beat by 3-4 yards. Trey underthrew it and it still didn't matter. Gonna be a fun combo to watch!

The ball was in the air 50 yards when Gray caught it. The ball was slightly under thrown, but Gray beat Patrick Peterson so badly that it didn't matter. No shade, but you NEVER saw that from Jimmy G.

You never saw Jimmy G underthrow a receiver? What??

I think he meant we never saw Jimmy G throw deep lol.

Exactly!

Jimmy's issues with the deep ball IMO were related to his lower half and not his arm. I mean even Shaun Hill had a pretty accurate deep ball and his arm was one of the worst I've ever seen. One of the things that made Jimmy so good in short to intermediate passes was adversely the same reason he struggled to throw deep… his footwork.

Trey has shown in a limited sample size that he can launch deep passes without a massive hitch like Jeff Garcia used to do in every drop back. That means he has potential to hit quick strikes and threaten defenses in the deeper parts of the field. I think he's got a ways to go before he's on Jimmy's level in terms of throwing over the middle but he has all the tools that Jimmy didn't.

Regardless, you didn't see this from Jimmy
Originally posted by elguapo:
I'm just glad Trey is connecting on deep balls. I'd rather him under throw it a little bit then overthrow it like or completely miss like you know who

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by elguapo:
I'm just glad Trey is connecting on deep balls. I'd rather him under throw it a little bit then overthrow it like or completely miss like you know who


I read yah…..so you're telling me there's a chance
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Another angle.

Too easy. Trey should take something more challenging, like Jimmy quick strike between the numbers with a safety sitting on top.

My gawd! Teams gonna have to respect our deep game this year. First time since…. TO?
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Another angle.

Too easy. Trey should take something more challenging, like Jimmy quick strike between the numbers with a safety sitting on top.

My gawd! Teams gonna have to respect our deep game this year. First time since…. TO?

'12/'13 Kap was dropping bombs. But yes, this offense should be way more complete/versatile.
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