Our new Tackle Probability model can evaluate a ball carrier's ability to evade tackles.
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) September 10, 2024
In Week 1, @49ers RB Jordan Mason led the league with 13 missed tackles forced—five more than the next closest ball carrier.
📸: Week 1 Leaders in Missed Tackles Forced pic.twitter.com/SP4glhvU5h
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Sep 10, 2024 at 4:12 PM
- Hopper
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Guy is a real wordsmith
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Jordan would be a starter on most teams.
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Originally posted by Hopper:
Our new Tackle Probability model can evaluate a ball carrier's ability to evade tackles.
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) September 10, 2024
In Week 1, @49ers RB Jordan Mason led the league with 13 missed tackles forced—five more than the next closest ball carrier.
📸: Week 1 Leaders in Missed Tackles Forced pic.twitter.com/SP4glhvU5h
That run where he made Sauce tackle an invisible player and played with grass was beautiful.
Sep 10, 2024 at 5:19 PM
- Bellaleo
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Soft Gardner crapped himself seeing Mason and Deebo.
Sep 10, 2024 at 5:23 PM
- frenchmov
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Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Soft Gardner crapped himself seeing Mason and Deebo.
That's not what they pay Gardner for but it was funny. Better strap up if you're going to tackle a niners ball carrier
Sep 10, 2024 at 7:52 PM
- dhp318
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What's dumb is that we said all last season to play Mason more to spell CMC. Now we have an injured CMC instead
Sep 10, 2024 at 8:08 PM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by dhp318:
What's dumb is that we said all last season to play Mason more to spell CMC. Now we have an injured CMC instead
yeah, at least Achillies tendinitis can be cured with rest and relaxation. Or so says Google...
Sep 10, 2024 at 8:54 PM
- 9moon
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The Ma$e is On !!! GO GO GO !!!
Sep 11, 2024 at 9:01 AM
- Sickaa
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
my fave ESPN projection after week 1:
JP Mason 476 carries 2499 rush yds
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4360569/jordan-mason
I'll be disappointed If he doesn't hit those numbers now.
Sep 11, 2024 at 9:45 AM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Soft Gardner crapped himself seeing Mason and Deebo.
it was weak sauce
Sep 11, 2024 at 12:29 PM
- LasVegasWally
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Like so many here on this topic, I'm so elated that we kept him.
Sep 13, 2024 at 1:24 PM
- Waterbear
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Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Patton:
^ Good point on the amount of plays regarding Mason. Either way, Mason needs more carries if for nothing more than to give CMC a break. Mitchell for whatever reason isn't producing. Maybe Mason isn't up to par on his protection assignments, if that's the case in Kyles mind, he needs to use Mason solely as a runner. He's earned the chance to get more plays.
the offense is predicated on play action. it'll become apparent to defenses that theyre gonna run the ball with Mason. Kyle's not one to tip his hand.
look i think JP is a hell of a runner but he still has deficiencies that will keep him from getting significant touches unless injuries force it.
No one is CMC, but with the way Mitchell is performing, I don't think Mason is a liability in the pass game like people assume he is, especially compared to Mitchell right now.
He looked good running route(s) a couple weeks ago.
Kyle is a great coach, but he's had issues with his RB usage.
Remember Mostert's performance in the SB.... or lack thereof? Now he's balling in Miami.
If Kyle truly doesn't trust him, he should trade for Patterson from the Falcons. Get someone in here that can actually take reps away from CMC.
Mason's lack of pass pro awareness directly led to an intentional grounding in the CLE loss while the Niners had the lead. that kind of stuff is just not gonna fly with Kyle. while Mitchell looks like a shell of his former self as a runner, he's still a better blocker right now.
I wonder how many pass blocking reps he's had though. It can't be more than a handful.
I understand if he's proven over and over he can't do it, but you don't get better at something by sitting on the bench.
lol you also dont continue to put your QB in harms way hoping a kid will figure it out. this is the NFL not a development league.
all of this will be less of an issue when Deebo returns. he's the real #2 RB in this offense.
Kyle's been more than comfortable with offensive lineman and tight end's who are dreadful at pass blocking.
I just watched our backup TE (warner?) in the backfield completely whiff on his assignment in the A gap, I'm sure he's getting plenty of playing time next week as well.
There's a balance between having your best blockers vs best runners in the game. Kyle can't have everything. Sometimes you need to sacrifice something. And right now he's sacrificing his the playmaking aspect because he believes Mitchell is a better blocker.
the performances at other positions have nothing to do with the RB position. again, JP is a liability. it's up to him to improve to see more snaps.
Kyle is doing what he feels is best for his offense.
"Kyle cant have everything" lol NT never change.
Jordan "the liability" Mason….
Sep 13, 2024 at 1:40 PM
- Furlow
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Patton:
^ Good point on the amount of plays regarding Mason. Either way, Mason needs more carries if for nothing more than to give CMC a break. Mitchell for whatever reason isn't producing. Maybe Mason isn't up to par on his protection assignments, if that's the case in Kyles mind, he needs to use Mason solely as a runner. He's earned the chance to get more plays.
the offense is predicated on play action. it'll become apparent to defenses that theyre gonna run the ball with Mason. Kyle's not one to tip his hand.
look i think JP is a hell of a runner but he still has deficiencies that will keep him from getting significant touches unless injuries force it.
No one is CMC, but with the way Mitchell is performing, I don't think Mason is a liability in the pass game like people assume he is, especially compared to Mitchell right now.
He looked good running route(s) a couple weeks ago.
Kyle is a great coach, but he's had issues with his RB usage.
Remember Mostert's performance in the SB.... or lack thereof? Now he's balling in Miami.
If Kyle truly doesn't trust him, he should trade for Patterson from the Falcons. Get someone in here that can actually take reps away from CMC.
Mason's lack of pass pro awareness directly led to an intentional grounding in the CLE loss while the Niners had the lead. that kind of stuff is just not gonna fly with Kyle. while Mitchell looks like a shell of his former self as a runner, he's still a better blocker right now.
I wonder how many pass blocking reps he's had though. It can't be more than a handful.
I understand if he's proven over and over he can't do it, but you don't get better at something by sitting on the bench.
lol you also dont continue to put your QB in harms way hoping a kid will figure it out. this is the NFL not a development league.
all of this will be less of an issue when Deebo returns. he's the real #2 RB in this offense.
Kyle's been more than comfortable with offensive lineman and tight end's who are dreadful at pass blocking.
I just watched our backup TE (warner?) in the backfield completely whiff on his assignment in the A gap, I'm sure he's getting plenty of playing time next week as well.
There's a balance between having your best blockers vs best runners in the game. Kyle can't have everything. Sometimes you need to sacrifice something. And right now he's sacrificing his the playmaking aspect because he believes Mitchell is a better blocker.
the performances at other positions have nothing to do with the RB position. again, JP is a liability. it's up to him to improve to see more snaps.
Kyle is doing what he feels is best for his offense.
"Kyle cant have everything" lol NT never change.
Jordan "the liability" Mason….
"Performances at other positions have nothing to do with the RB position?"
Lol whoa.
Sep 13, 2024 at 1:52 PM
- Dshearn
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Originally posted by Hopper:
Our new Tackle Probability model can evaluate a ball carrier's ability to evade tackles.
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) September 10, 2024
In Week 1, @49ers RB Jordan Mason led the league with 13 missed tackles forced—five more than the next closest ball carrier.
📸: Week 1 Leaders in Missed Tackles Forced pic.twitter.com/SP4glhvU5h
I would not have guessed he lead the league in this, but I did not watch every NFL game.
To me I was focused on the running lanes he had...I think most RBs with NFL levels of talent would have had a really good game.
Dude should be really consistent if he has the best ability in the NFL to force missed tackles, cause the line is good, and should get better as they gel over the season