S Tashaun Gipson

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Well in either case Gipson > Moore and Odom at S

Odom's primary role is on Special Teams. He is just so-so as a safety.

Moore has good potential if he is fully recovered from the injury.

To be honest, Gipson was available to sign at this time because he isn't very good. PFF rated him as "replacement" grade in all three categories; run defense, coverage, and pass rush. Overall, he is what he was signed for - a replacement in case someone better cannot play. Hence, he will get some run against Houston but won't see the field for defensive snaps barring an injury to one of the starters.

This is all true but Odom and Moore is who would be replacing Ward if he's out for some time. Gipson is better "right now" then them for reasons you mentioned and because he has sooooooo much more experience, even much more than Hufanga. With our defense and aspirations; I would feel much more confident trotting a veteran safety out there with TH than Moore/Odom for the time being until Ward is back or as you said; Moore is fully recovered (I think this is who he is though tbh)

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Well in either case Gipson > Moore and Odom at S

Odom's primary role is on Special Teams. He is just so-so as a safety.

Moore has good potential if he is fully recovered from the injury.

To be honest, Gipson was available to sign at this time because he isn't very good. PFF rated him as "replacement" grade in all three categories; run defense, coverage, and pass rush. Overall, he is what he was signed for - a replacement in case someone better cannot play. Hence, he will get some run against Houston but won't see the field for defensive snaps barring an injury to one of the starters.

This is all true but Odom and Moore is who would be replacing Ward if he's out for some time. Gipson is better "right now" then them for reasons you mentioned and because he has sooooooo much more experience, even much more than Hufanga. With our defense and aspirations; I would feel much more confident trotting a veteran safety out there with TH than Moore/Odom for the time being until Ward is back or as you said; Moore is fully recovered (I think this is who he is though tbh)

To this point, Moore has shown flashes that suggest he can be a more than adequate safety. He has speed, hits hard, he just needs more experience in coverage. Hence, Gipson is a bridge to get us to a healthy Ward and/or a more experienced Moore.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Well in either case Gipson > Moore and Odom at S

Odom's primary role is on Special Teams. He is just so-so as a safety.

Moore has good potential if he is fully recovered from the injury.

To be honest, Gipson was available to sign at this time because he isn't very good. PFF rated him as "replacement" grade in all three categories; run defense, coverage, and pass rush. Overall, he is what he was signed for - a replacement in case someone better cannot play. Hence, he will get some run against Houston but won't see the field for defensive snaps barring an injury to one of the starters.

This is all true but Odom and Moore is who would be replacing Ward if he's out for some time. Gipson is better "right now" then them for reasons you mentioned and because he has sooooooo much more experience, even much more than Hufanga. With our defense and aspirations; I would feel much more confident trotting a veteran safety out there with TH than Moore/Odom for the time being until Ward is back or as you said; Moore is fully recovered (I think this is who he is though tbh)

To this point, Moore has shown flashes that suggest he can be a more than adequate safety. He has speed, hits hard, he just needs more experience in coverage. Hence, Gipson is a bridge to get us to a healthy Ward and/or a more experienced Moore.

All I think of when I think of Moore is poor open field tackling. Is that an experience thing or an innate flaw? I don't mean tackling form, I'm talking about pursuit angle and breaking down the ball carrier. It's not good imo. With Ward out, I'm looking just to tread water at safety while leaning on the front 7. If a 20 yard catch is given up, fine, don't allow it to be a 30+ yard gain due to YAC.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Gip will be our 2022 Josh Norman

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Well in either case Gipson > Moore and Odom at S

Odom's primary role is on Special Teams. He is just so-so as a safety.

Moore has good potential if he is fully recovered from the injury.

To be honest, Gipson was available to sign at this time because he isn't very good. PFF rated him as "replacement" grade in all three categories; run defense, coverage, and pass rush. Overall, he is what he was signed for - a replacement in case someone better cannot play. Hence, he will get some run against Houston but won't see the field for defensive snaps barring an injury to one of the starters.

This is all true but Odom and Moore is who would be replacing Ward if he's out for some time. Gipson is better "right now" then them for reasons you mentioned and because he has sooooooo much more experience, even much more than Hufanga. With our defense and aspirations; I would feel much more confident trotting a veteran safety out there with TH than Moore/Odom for the time being until Ward is back or as you said; Moore is fully recovered (I think this is who he is though tbh)

To this point, Moore has shown flashes that suggest he can be a more than adequate safety. He has speed, hits hard, he just needs more experience in coverage. Hence, Gipson is a bridge to get us to a healthy Ward and/or a more experienced Moore.

All I think of when I think of Moore is poor open field tackling. Is that an experience thing or an innate flaw? I don't mean tackling form, I'm talking about pursuit angle and breaking down the ball carrier. It's not good imo. With Ward out, I'm looking just to tread water at safety while leaning on the front 7. If a 20 yard catch is given up, fine, don't allow it to be a 30+ yard gain due to YAC.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Pro Bowler, but 32 years old. Might have a couple years left.

Originally posted by NCommand:
My guess is that hamstring tear was pretty bad. Ward might start the year on I.R.

Originally posted by NCommand:
My guess is that hamstring tear was pretty bad. Ward might start the year on I.R.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:
My guess is that hamstring tear was pretty bad. Ward might start the year on I.R.

Thanks NC for thinking worst case scenario.

but this is forward thinking.. nc could be right.. if you do not have a plan and you stand still. you lose ground

Originally posted by JTB1974:
He might get to play against his former team week 1. Will that have little extra motivation.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
He might get to play against his former team week 1. Will that have little extra motivation.

the bears should be an easy win

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
He might get to play against his former team week 1. Will that have little extra motivation.

the bears should be an easy win

Should, but Week 1 games can be weird.

Originally posted by thl408:
Maybe the 49ers aren't content with Odum and/or TMoore. Gipson has been around the block and has been in many schemes. He should pick things up quickly.
Or, this pickup is for a fresh body to play the final preseason game.

Originally posted by 9NERNATE:

Originally posted by thl408:
Maybe the 49ers aren't content with Odum and/or TMoore. Gipson has been around the block and has been in many schemes. He should pick things up quickly.
Or, this pickup is for a fresh body to play the final preseason game.

I don't think they're content with Moore at all.