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Anyone who knows kyle shanahan and the Niners knew they would lose this; or at least come close to losing.
he called the worst red zone plays, the predictably awful first time center and guards were awful, Lance was about as expected (in not a good way).
sure it was ripe for an upset but it felt certain and at the same time, EASILY avoidable. Chicago was as bad as they were anticipated to be. And this team lost by two scores to em. And not because of the weather.
AGREE...
if everyone can just be honest.. all the blames point to KS10.. he being a good OC and all the hype he got starting from Big Mouth Sharpe and the rest of the talk show.. they made him BETTER than what he is and many fans here just believed that he is THAT good..
our team is talented but we don't have a talented HC.. that's the bottom line..
When I turned on the pre-game show and saw it was a downpour in Chicago I immediately thought this was the kind of game the Niners would lose. On the road, against a poor team is bad weather, Shanahan always seems to falter in those scenarios.
I do think the team will improve as the season progresses. And it's hard to take much away from a game like this. Other than the Bears played much, much more disciplined football than the Niners did. Penalties need to be cleaned up, and the defense needs to stick to their assignments. Had the Niners just done that they probably walk away with a W.
EXCUSES for KS10 is running out..
Been saying this for 3. years now..
Yup. Fire him after a week 1 loss after he got us to the NFCCG the season before.
oh, don't get me wrong.. he's not gonna get fired.. not this year at least.. so keep enjoying his COACHING ways.
Honestly Kyle's offense looks like a highschool gimmick. He looks like an idiot on game day compared to Reid. He has to be out of rope with this Trey stunt.
This is one thing I struggle to understand. Where is the gimmick? Looks like a pretty traditional modern NFL offense. A wide zone run game that feeds into a play action passing game to hit big plays. The passing game itself seems mostly West Coast based with an emphasis on hitting crossers to get YAC. This kind of offense is all over the NFL.
the HC just doesn't know how to game plan.. it's getting so obvious.. he calls same plays week in and week out.. he's so in love w/his play design that the thinks any thing in his playbook will work the minute he calls it..
Just look at our QBs when he has to drop back on an obvious passing down..
He's offense is getting old.. just the way Martz; Air Coryell's and Ernie Zampese's offense did..
That's fair enough, but I don't think it means Shanahan's offense is a gimmick.
I do think Shanahan struggles to adjust when his game plan falls off the rails. Plan today was to run, run, run but that fell flat when Mitchell went out. However, I think the larger issue is Shanahan is constantly trying to set up future plays (i.e. he will run out of one formation to set up a deep shot later out of the same action). When those plays stumble or the offense gets behind the chains the entire offense just looks stagnant. It just can't hit those amazing set up plays when things go south. We'll see if that improves as the season goes on. I thought much of that was due to limitations with Garoppolo in the past.
it's a gimmick (IMO) offense because it's a predetermined read due to the play design that supposed to get the initial target open.. pay attention to the way our QBs (Grappy or Lance) drops back...
On a simple shot gun, they don't drop back deep enough to see how the D develops... instead, they do 2 steps back or 3, then releases the ball.. it's rare you'll see our QB drops back deep and just read the D.
If you're watching TB and Dallas game, you can simply tell how both QBs are reading the defenses..