Fantasy question: How good would Montana be in Kyle's offense.

Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:

Originally posted by Alfienator:
He would've went to as much Super Bowls as Tom Brady but without a loss.

Is this insinuating Kyle's O > Walsh's O

I'm talking about if we had prime Montana in today's league.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by GangstaGangsta:

Originally posted by Alfienator:
He would've went to as much Super Bowls as Tom Brady but without a loss.

Is this insinuating Kyle's O > Walsh's O

I'm talking about if we had prime Montana in today's league.

He'd play until he was 60 because nobody would be allowed to touch him.

Originally posted by Alfienator:
I'm talking about if we had prime Montana in today's league.

Joe was like a more mobile and more clutch Drew Brees.. for all the youngins.. that's my take. He was also very injury prone which would make him a team / scheme fit with KS.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Alfienator:
I'm talking about if we had prime Montana in today's league.

Joe was like a more mobile and more clutch Drew Brees.. for all the youngins.. that's my take. He was also very injury prone which would make him a team / scheme fit with KS.

Kyle's philosophy on pass protection would have sent him to I.R. faster then Jimmie Ward coming off I.R.

Joe would excel in Kyle's offense. Kyle would trust Joe and this would allow more intermediate and sideline throws.

Joe Montana would be Kyle's wet dream.

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
The one main weakness Jimmy has is that he doesn't see everything on the field. Montana for some crazy reason saw everything, and would always make that pass that defenses would miss. Kyle's running game with Montana's mind would be an unstoppable juggernaut.

With Rice and Taylor to throw to, it just looked like the defense missed it. They really didn't. They just had no one that could cover them.

Originally posted by bigpete50:
Joe would excel in Kyle's offense. Kyle would trust Joe and this would allow more intermediate and sideline throws.

Joe Montana would be Kyle's wet dream.

No, that would be Bobb McKittrick. Bald Bobb teaching the OL Kyle's offense would be legendary. McK was a genius at teaching blocking angles. He would be exactly what Kyle needs to execute his movement-based running game and PP schemes.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
In a run-centric pseudo WCO? Hmmm.

Walsh relied on the run more than many people know, or remember.

FWIW this is just the raw number of attempts via PFR and obviously does not tell the whole story :

81 SB Team : 517 pass attempts 560 rush attempts

84 SB Team : 496 pass attempts 534 rush attempts

88 SB Team : 502 pass attempts 527 rush attempts

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
In a run-centric pseudo WCO? Hmmm.

Walsh relied on the run more than many people know, or remember.

FWIW this is just the raw number of attempts via PFR and obviously does not tell the whole story :

81 SB Team : 517 pass attempts 560 rush attempts

84 SB Team : 496 pass attempts 534 rush attempts

88 SB Team : 502 pass attempts 527 rush attempts

The key is when...run to set up the pass or pass to set up the run later? We know the difference.

Either way, we've always had terrific rushers and fullback and TE's.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
In a run-centric pseudo WCO? Hmmm.

Walsh relied on the run more than many people know, or remember.

FWIW this is just the raw number of attempts via PFR and obviously does not tell the whole story :

81 SB Team : 517 pass attempts 560 rush attempts

84 SB Team : 496 pass attempts 534 rush attempts

88 SB Team : 502 pass attempts 527 rush attempts

NC, you can start back pedaling now

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
In a run-centric pseudo WCO? Hmmm.

Walsh relied on the run more than many people know, or remember.

FWIW this is just the raw number of attempts via PFR and obviously does not tell the whole story :

81 SB Team : 517 pass attempts 560 rush attempts

84 SB Team : 496 pass attempts 534 rush attempts

88 SB Team : 502 pass attempts 527 rush attempts

If there is one difference between Walsh and Shanahan, it's the type of running attack each coached valued or values.

I don't know if Shanahan would value a RB like Roger Craig in his rushing attack. He's more of a Wendell Tyler slasher type of coach.

I asked myself this same question when we hired Kyle. I felt like Matt Ryan unlocked the big play part of Kyle's playbook. He hasn't had the QB to do so just yet here.

I think Montana's understanding of concepts/routes and the subtle nuances of the game would have him absolutely killing defenses today with these soft rules.

Random side note: I think it is interesting to note that both Montana (Holmgren 1989) and Young (Shanahan 1994) had their best seasons with Walsh's disciples calling plays rather than Walsh himself.

It's probably just cause I was too young (actually I wasn't alive) to see Montana but I've always just fantasized about prime Steve Young with this offense. It'd be absurd

The real Joe cool would be the perfect fit for Shanny. Perfect footwork all the smarts in the world and he could escape when the play breaks down.
Joe was the perfect WCO QB. He also had massive balls in the clutch hence the name Joe Cool…

He'd win 10 rings