Fantasy question: How good would Montana be in Kyle's offense.

What we are looking for here is the accuracy of Brees, the arm of Elway, the release of Marino, the clutch gene of Montana, the longevity of Brady, the BTT / TWP ratio of Rodgers, the footspeed of Vick, the offplatform throws of Mahomes, the size of Josh Allen. I feel KS would win with that guy.

Originally posted by q0c0p:
He'd win 10 rings

Still the GOAT imo
perfection in 4 Super Bowls
waiting for a QB to match that

One things for sure we'll have 7 rings and be locks to win the NFC unless the weekly injuries continue. Only reason we continue to get slept on is the QB, only few talking heads realize the talent up and down this roster has

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
One things for sure we'll have 7 rings and be locks to win the NFC unless the weekly injuries continue. Only reason we continue to get slept on is the QB, only few talking heads realize the talent up and down this roster has

Couldn't agree more
The only injury that would "kill" us is #10

If I remember correctly, Walsh passed to setup the run. In the late stages of the NFCCG right before the catch, Walsh called running plays'cause Landry could see Joe was killing them with passes. So Lenville Elliot is running the ball and the cowboys didn't even know he was on the team ‼️

Originally posted by NinerTy:
If I remember correctly, Walsh passed to setup the run. In the late stages of the NFCCG right before the catch, Walsh called running plays'cause Landry could see Joe was killing them with passes. So Lenville Elliot is running the ball and the cowboys didn't even know he was on the team ‼️

Bingo.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
In a run-centric pseudo WCO? Hmmm.

Walsh relied on the run more than many people know, or remember.

FWIW this is just the raw number of attempts via PFR and obviously does not tell the whole story :

81 SB Team : 517 pass attempts 560 rush attempts

84 SB Team : 496 pass attempts 534 rush attempts

88 SB Team : 502 pass attempts 527 rush attempts

NC, you can start back pedaling now

You must be young and/or never watched a BW philosophy here.

Originally posted by Bellaleo:
The real Joe cool would be the perfect fit for Shanny. Perfect footwork all the smarts in the world and he could escape when the play breaks down.
Joe was the perfect WCO QB. He also had massive balls in the clutch hence the name Joe Cool…

The big difference here is Kyle could care less about footwork and mechanics. BW was maniacal about it especially in relationship to timing with the receivers…a lot put on them too.

That said, Kyle IS maniacal about the details of run blocking.

BW is one side of the WCO coin and Kyle, the other from a philosophy perspective.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerTy:
If I remember correctly, Walsh passed to setup the run. In the late stages of the NFCCG right before the catch, Walsh called running plays'cause Landry could see Joe was killing them with passes. So Lenville Elliot is running the ball and the cowboys didn't even know he was on the team ‼️

Bingo.

Never got to watch Walsh or Montana sadly but that's exactly what Kyle needs to do because teams will continue to stack the whole d on the line. Hopefully Jimmy continues to play smart

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
In a run-centric pseudo WCO? Hmmm.

Walsh relied on the run more than many people know, or remember.

FWIW this is just the raw number of attempts via PFR and obviously does not tell the whole story :

81 SB Team : 517 pass attempts 560 rush attempts

84 SB Team : 496 pass attempts 534 rush attempts

88 SB Team : 502 pass attempts 527 rush attempts

NC, you can start back pedaling now

You must be young and/or never watched a BW philosophy here.

Younger than you probably but not knew to BW

the stats show it was run centric.. this post is a great jump on your backpedal!

Joe Montana in Kyle's offense:

/thread

Lol…jk Kyle would prob run him into Leonard Marshall & Lawrence Taylor

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
In a run-centric pseudo WCO? Hmmm.

Walsh relied on the run more than many people know, or remember.

FWIW this is just the raw number of attempts via PFR and obviously does not tell the whole story :

81 SB Team : 517 pass attempts 560 rush attempts

84 SB Team : 496 pass attempts 534 rush attempts

88 SB Team : 502 pass attempts 527 rush attempts

NC, you can start back pedaling now

You must be young and/or never watched a BW philosophy here.

Younger than you probably but not knew to BW

the stats show it was run centric.. this post is a great jump on your backpedal!

He threw early and often, mixed in the run, and mostly ran in the second half with leads. Raw numbers don't tell the story. It was pass first and it was noted at the time it was a passing offense. No one thought of the 49ers as a running team at the time, though I will say their running game was underrated.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
In a run-centric pseudo WCO? Hmmm.

Walsh relied on the run more than many people know, or remember.

FWIW this is just the raw number of attempts via PFR and obviously does not tell the whole story :

81 SB Team : 517 pass attempts 560 rush attempts

84 SB Team : 496 pass attempts 534 rush attempts

88 SB Team : 502 pass attempts 527 rush attempts

NC, you can start back pedaling now

You must be young and/or never watched a BW philosophy here.

Younger than you probably but not knew to BW

the stats show it was run centric.. this post is a great jump on your backpedal!

He threw early and often, mixed in the run, and mostly ran in the second half with leads. Raw numbers don't tell the story. It was pass first and it was noted at the time it was a passing offense. No one thought of the 49ers as a running team at the time, though I will say their running game was underrated.

There is no way you can finish with more runs than passes and Be considered a pass centric team. That's the misconception of how we got labeled a finesse team. While Walsh set up the run with the pass, the run is what punished a lot teams in between those highlight throws.

I suspect that it would look a lot like it does now except that Joe had the uncanny vision to spot open receivers. It may have been his best attribute. Sports Illustrated ran an article about him after a SB win. In the article they talked about that vision and said he would have been a great fighter pilot because of his vision and quick reactions. One other difference was mobility. Joe had great mobility when he first came into the league but slowed down after injuries. Not like Young but much better than Jimmy. I suspect Walsh asked him to not run as much.

Joe Montana. Top Gun.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by NCommand:
In a run-centric pseudo WCO? Hmmm.

Walsh relied on the run more than many people know, or remember.

FWIW this is just the raw number of attempts via PFR and obviously does not tell the whole story :

81 SB Team : 517 pass attempts 560 rush attempts

84 SB Team : 496 pass attempts 534 rush attempts

88 SB Team : 502 pass attempts 527 rush attempts

NC, you can start back pedaling now

You must be young and/or never watched a BW philosophy here.

Younger than you probably but not knew to BW

the stats show it was run centric.. this post is a great jump on your backpedal!

Clearly you are new to BW. Nobody would ever describe BW's philosophy as run-centric. LOL. Wow. This explains a lot.

"The stats show..."