I'm somewhere in the middle of on the fence and love it.
Injuries are a concern for sure. Yes he's only 26 but he's used sooo much already. Look at what happened with Gurely. He was so good for about 3-4 years and then injuries started pulling on and he wasn't close to the same player anymore.
Then I also worry a bit if Kyle will really use CMC like he likes to be used in the passing game. I think Jimmy will be just fine with him, it suits strengths in the short game, but idk if Kyle will line him up all over the field and give him the freedom he's had with his route running.
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Oct 22, 2022 at 8:51 AM
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Oct 22, 2022 at 8:53 AM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You would release Mason obviously. Coleman is a fast 4.3 speed guy. You don't release that. Plus he's played with Kyle before and knows the system. It's just a matter of staying healthy. But he's at least a good backup IMO. Good to have on the roster.
Nah. You move Coleman to the PS. He can be picked up anytime. Like how we just did off the streets. Mason could learn a lot from CMC.
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:01 AM
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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
What???? He's 26.....It's not like he's a 31 year old back....He's in his prime. This is on par with the 49ers getting Ricky Watters in 94 - or even more so
CMC is a lot more talented than Watters
That says a lot, because Ricky Watters was an excellent RB, and one of my favorite Niners of all time!
You would know Tom!
CMC is NOT more talented than Watters..
Watters can play the WR position ... Watters can be a BELL COW.. Watters can return punt and kick-offs.
CMC is very talented, but he's NOT more talented than Watters.. you can compare him to the old D.Meggett or E. Metcalf..
I think the only thing about the Ricky Watters comparison that falls short is the size and durability
CMC is arguably now the best route runner on the team, and the best running back, but he is not durable enough to be a bell cow like Watters or Gore.
his injury history as the bell cow in Carolina proves this
he will be able to get a little rest here, as Kyle and Jimmy are great at distributing the ball.
I think this will hurt his fantasy numbers, and stats, but will keep him healthier and create big chunk plays when we need them
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:05 AM
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by BubbaParisMVP:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Who are they releasing? Coleman? Mason?
I don't know. I've also been wondering about that all day.
Mason, I guess? They're playing Coleman, TDP gets a pass for reasons of ego-preservation (I thought I understood that pick when it happened, but having seen Kyle use him, I don't understand that pick at all). I don't see how it isn't Mason. I suppose that with all the injuries, they could put off the decision, but it has to happen at some point.
They had an open roster spot when they put Moseley on IR.
I must be off one then.
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:10 AM
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Originally posted by 49erKing:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
What???? He's 26.....It's not like he's a 31 year old back....He's in his prime. This is on par with the 49ers getting Ricky Watters in 94 - or even more so
CMC is a lot more talented than Watters
That says a lot, because Ricky Watters was an excellent RB, and one of my favorite Niners of all time!
You would know Tom!
CMC is NOT more talented than Watters..
Watters can play the WR position ... Watters can be a BELL COW.. Watters can return punt and kick-offs.
CMC is very talented, but he's NOT more talented than Watters.. you can compare him to the old D.Meggett or E. Metcalf..
Why in the world are you writing like Grant Cohn?
I've never seen Cohn write anything.. He must be in your mind a lot..
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:10 AM
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Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
What???? He's 26.....It's not like he's a 31 year old back....He's in his prime. This is on par with the 49ers getting Ricky Watters in 94 - or even more so
CMC is a lot more talented than Watters
That says a lot, because Ricky Watters was an excellent RB, and one of my favorite Niners of all time!
You would know Tom!
CMC is NOT more talented than Watters..
Watters can play the WR position ... Watters can be a BELL COW.. Watters can return punt and kick-offs.
CMC is very talented, but he's NOT more talented than Watters.. you can compare him to the old D.Meggett or E. Metcalf..
I think the only thing about the Ricky Watters comparison that falls short is the size and durability
CMC is arguably now the best route runner on the team, and the best running back, but he is not durable enough to be a bell cow like Watters or Gore.
his injury history as the bell cow in Carolina proves this
he will be able to get a little rest here, as Kyle and Jimmy are great at distributing the ball.
I think this will hurt his fantasy numbers, and stats, but will keep him healthier and create big chunk plays when we need them
Do true bonafide bellcows even exist nowaday? They all get hurt all the time. Maybe Zeke?
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:12 AM
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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by 49erKing:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
What???? He's 26.....It's not like he's a 31 year old back....He's in his prime. This is on par with the 49ers getting Ricky Watters in 94 - or even more so
CMC is a lot more talented than Watters
That says a lot, because Ricky Watters was an excellent RB, and one of my favorite Niners of all time!
You would know Tom!
CMC is NOT more talented than Watters..
Watters can play the WR position ... Watters can be a BELL COW.. Watters can return punt and kick-offs.
CMC is very talented, but he's NOT more talented than Watters.. you can compare him to the old D.Meggett or E. Metcalf..
Why in the world are you writing like Grant Cohn?
I've never seen Cohn write anything.. He must be in your mind a lot..
lmao - wannabe cohn :)
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:14 AM
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Originally posted by 9moon:Watters was a very special player, but CMC is a more physically gifted athlete than Watters. Watters had good size, so he was a bit more durable. CMC is miles ahead of Meggett and Metcalf, who were amazing athletes in their own right.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
What???? He's 26.....It's not like he's a 31 year old back....He's in his prime. This is on par with the 49ers getting Ricky Watters in 94 - or even more so
CMC is a lot more talented than Watters
That says a lot, because Ricky Watters was an excellent RB, and one of my favorite Niners of all time!
You would know Tom!
CMC is NOT more talented than Watters..
Watters can play the WR position ... Watters can be a BELL COW.. Watters can return punt and kick-offs.
CMC is very talented, but he's NOT more talented than Watters.. you can compare him to the old D.Meggett or E. Metcalf..
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:15 AM
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Originally posted by 49erKing:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
What???? He's 26.....It's not like he's a 31 year old back....He's in his prime. This is on par with the 49ers getting Ricky Watters in 94 - or even more so
CMC is a lot more talented than Watters
That says a lot, because Ricky Watters was an excellent RB, and one of my favorite Niners of all time!
You would know Tom!
CMC is NOT more talented than Watters..
Watters can play the WR position ... Watters can be a BELL COW.. Watters can return punt and kick-offs.
CMC is very talented, but he's NOT more talented than Watters.. you can compare him to the old D.Meggett or E. Metcalf..
I think the only thing about the Ricky Watters comparison that falls short is the size and durability
CMC is arguably now the best route runner on the team, and the best running back, but he is not durable enough to be a bell cow like Watters or Gore.
his injury history as the bell cow in Carolina proves this
he will be able to get a little rest here, as Kyle and Jimmy are great at distributing the ball.
I think this will hurt his fantasy numbers, and stats, but will keep him healthier and create big chunk plays when we need them
Do true bonafide bellcows even exist nowaday? They all get hurt all the time. Maybe Zeke?
BELLCOWS - exactly.. since the only bellcow we are watching is the Titans " BIG BABY ", this is why I believe that Watters more talented than Lil Mac.
Watters was the MOST TALENTED RB..
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:17 AM
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Originally posted by 49erKing:
Do true bonafide bellcows even exist nowaday? They all get hurt all the time. Maybe Zeke?
Derrick Henry takes offense to this
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM
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Originally posted by 9moon:
BELLCOWS - exactly.. since the only bellcow we are watching is the Titans " BIG BABY ", this is why I believe that Watters more talented than Lil Mac.
Watters was the MOST TALENTED RB..
He's been here a day and CMC already in the convo.. bringing up some 49er greats.. he's in that pantheon already.. what a player!
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:22 AM
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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
What???? He's 26.....It's not like he's a 31 year old back....He's in his prime. This is on par with the 49ers getting Ricky Watters in 94 - or even more so
CMC is a lot more talented than Watters
That says a lot, because Ricky Watters was an excellent RB, and one of my favorite Niners of all time!
You would know Tom!
CMC is NOT more talented than Watters..
Watters can play the WR position ... Watters can be a BELL COW.. Watters can return punt and kick-offs.
CMC is very talented, but he's NOT more talented than Watters.. you can compare him to the old D.Meggett or E. Metcalf..
Watters had one really great year in 1994. I think the better comparator for CMC is Roger Craig. 1000/1000 was something Roger did first.
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:23 AM
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Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
What???? He's 26.....It's not like he's a 31 year old back....He's in his prime. This is on par with the 49ers getting Ricky Watters in 94 - or even more so
CMC is a lot more talented than Watters
That says a lot, because Ricky Watters was an excellent RB, and one of my favorite Niners of all time!
You would know Tom!
CMC is NOT more talented than Watters..
Watters can play the WR position ... Watters can be a BELL COW.. Watters can return punt and kick-offs.
CMC is very talented, but he's NOT more talented than Watters.. you can compare him to the old D.Meggett or E. Metcalf..
I think the only thing about the Ricky Watters comparison that falls short is the size and durability
CMC is arguably now the best route runner on the team, and the best running back, but he is not durable enough to be a bell cow like Watters or Gore.
his injury history as the bell cow in Carolina proves this
he will be able to get a little rest here, as Kyle and Jimmy are great at distributing the ball.
I think this will hurt his fantasy numbers, and stats, but will keep him healthier and create big chunk plays when we need them
Waters sat out his entire rookie year due to injuries and a few games during the '93 season, then was healthy through the remainder of his 10 year career. His receiving numbers were generally small compared to CMC. CMC had bad 2020 and 2021 seasons with soft tissue injuries that likely won't be career wrecking. CMC was the bell cow for his first 3 seasons with great rushing and receiving stats. Comparing the 2 through first 5 seasons of their career, they played roughly the same number of games.
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:24 AM
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
You do know that Banks has been a better run blocker as well as a better pass blocker than Tomlinson this season, right?
I am not arguing your second point as I agree with you. The draft is a crap shoot and we now have a proven commodity.
I just think that Banks has been getting an unfair shake just because he sat his rookie season. He has actually played well, especially as a pass protector.
It is a that Tomlinson has played so poorly this season after playing very well in 2020 and 21. Banks had a relatively bad day against Atlanta but was ^^^ prior to that. The Chiefs and Chris Jones will be a huge test for Banks and IOL. If they can hold their own inside, CMC and the passing game could do some business.
Oct 22, 2022 at 9:26 AM
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Originally posted by Jimmyfan1:
I'm somewhere in the middle of on the fence and love it.
Injuries are a concern for sure. Yes he's only 26 but he's used sooo much already. Look at what happened with Gurely. He was so good for about 3-4 years and then injuries started pulling on and he wasn't close to the same player anymore.
Then I also worry a bit if Kyle will really use CMC like he likes to be used in the passing game. I think Jimmy will be just fine with him, it suits strengths in the short game, but idk if Kyle will line him up all over the field and give him the freedom he's had with his route running.
I get the injury concerns, but I don't understand the Todd Gurley comparisons (that goes for everyone, not just you. I keep hearing Gurley's name brought up as a comparison and it just isn't).
Gurley had arthritis in his knee at age 25. That's vastly different from McCaffrey who has had freak injuries to the ankle, hamstring and shoulder. You can easily come back from those injuries (and so far he has this year). He hasn't had any knee issues. Arthritis in the knee is a career killer.
[ Edited by Fanaticofnfl on Oct 22, 2022 at 9:27 AM ]