CMC, Elite RB who will start!

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder how many more prime seasons he has left with Kyle running him into the ground.

Not even one. Guaranteed this poor guy goes down at some point next season. Kyle has Eli and Mason and refuses to use both. What an odd coach…

Yah it blows me away too. Eli will come in and rip off a 15 yarder then won't play again the rest of the game or so it seems.

I recognize CMC is the best, but his usage baffles me at times. I don't think he can survive another season with this utilization without an injury. Spell him more coach, please?

Shanny is autistic in that regard. Mitchell and Mason are proven and wildly talented. Refuses both.

Yah it's annoying!

I thought Kyle would produce a QB factory here where we could develop and sell off for high draft picks.

Instead, he developed a RB factory.

I don't know about "sell off for high draft picks", but CJ Beathard, Mullens, Jimmy, all were acquired by other teams and all played last season for their teams. And now Brock looks good. Even Trey had a team that wanted to acquire him.

I'd say that's a pretty negative net loss overall (Brock though!) but I kind of had this idea (fair or not) he'd come in and draft a QB every year and develop them and flip at least one by now esp. with all the QB injuries to date (real NFL film). He has that kind of acumen. It probably wasn't fair to expect a QB factory.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder how many more prime seasons he has left with Kyle running him into the ground.

Not even one. Guaranteed this poor guy goes down at some point next season. Kyle has Eli and Mason and refuses to use both. What an odd coach…

Yah it blows me away too. Eli will come in and rip off a 15 yarder then won't play again the rest of the game or so it seems.

I recognize CMC is the best, but his usage baffles me at times. I don't think he can survive another season with this utilization without an injury. Spell him more coach, please?

Shanny is autistic in that regard. Mitchell and Mason are proven and wildly talented. Refuses both.

Yah it's annoying!

I thought Kyle would produce a QB factory here where we could develop and sell off for high draft picks.

Instead, he developed a RB factory.

I don't know about "sell off for high draft picks", but CJ Beathard, Mullens, Jimmy, all were acquired by other teams and all played last season for their teams. And now Brock looks good. Even Trey had a team that wanted to acquire him.

True story but Kyle was thought by some to be a QB whisperer. It's funny that 6 yrs in we finally have a solid QB and it appears to be by luck.

You can say yah, they scouted Brock and thought highly of.him but he was drafted last so that means they didn't really see a ton of value. More of a potential project. Nobody could have forseen this. There was luck involved.

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder how many more prime seasons he has left with Kyle running him into the ground.

Not even one. Guaranteed this poor guy goes down at some point next season. Kyle has Eli and Mason and refuses to use both. What an odd coach…

Yah it blows me away too. Eli will come in and rip off a 15 yarder then won't play again the rest of the game or so it seems.

I recognize CMC is the best, but his usage baffles me at times. I don't think he can survive another season with this utilization without an injury. Spell him more coach, please?

Shanny is autistic in that regard. Mitchell and Mason are proven and wildly talented. Refuses both.

Yah it's annoying!

I thought Kyle would produce a QB factory here where we could develop and sell off for high draft picks.

Instead, he developed a RB factory.

I don't know about "sell off for high draft picks", but CJ Beathard, Mullens, Jimmy, all were acquired by other teams and all played last season for their teams. And now Brock looks good. Even Trey had a team that wanted to acquire him.

True story but Kyle was thought by some to be a QB whisperer. It's funny that 6 yrs in we finally have a solid QB and it appears to be by luck.

You can say yah, they scouted Brock and thought highly of.him but he was drafted last so that means they didn't really see a ton of value. More of a potential project. Nobody could have forseen this. There was luck involved.

By that logic, every single HoFer that was drafted in the 2nd round or later was a lucky pick - because they were. Warner/Kittle/Greenlaw/Hufanga/Lenoir, all good players that were lucky picks. Had teams known how good they would be, they would have been 1st rounders over some of the 1st round busts in their respective drafts. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm saying all picks on day2/3 that turn out to be good players were lucky picks to some degree.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder how many more prime seasons he has left with Kyle running him into the ground.

Not even one. Guaranteed this poor guy goes down at some point next season. Kyle has Eli and Mason and refuses to use both. What an odd coach…

Yah it blows me away too. Eli will come in and rip off a 15 yarder then won't play again the rest of the game or so it seems.

I recognize CMC is the best, but his usage baffles me at times. I don't think he can survive another season with this utilization without an injury. Spell him more coach, please?

Shanny is autistic in that regard. Mitchell and Mason are proven and wildly talented. Refuses both.

Yah it's annoying!

I thought Kyle would produce a QB factory here where we could develop and sell off for high draft picks.

Instead, he developed a RB factory.

I don't know about "sell off for high draft picks", but CJ Beathard, Mullens, Jimmy, all were acquired by other teams and all played last season for their teams. And now Brock looks good. Even Trey had a team that wanted to acquire him.

True story but Kyle was thought by some to be a QB whisperer. It's funny that 6 yrs in we finally have a solid QB and it appears to be by luck.

You can say yah, they scouted Brock and thought highly of.him but he was drafted last so that means they didn't really see a ton of value. More of a potential project. Nobody could have forseen this. There was luck involved.

By that logic, every single HoFer that was drafted in the 2nd round or later was a lucky pick - because they were. Warner/Kittle/Greenlaw/Hufanga/Lenoir, all good players that were lucky picks. Had teams known how good they would be, they would have been 1st rounders over some of the 1st round busts in their respective drafts. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm saying all picks on day2/3 that turn out to be good players were lucky picks to some degree.

Fair enough. I just assumed Kyle had a better grasp on the position. Jimmy was a disaster. Some say he was decent. Maybe he was OK his first season before injury but the system made him serviceable more than anything. He'll. He rarely threw the ball beyond ten yards.

Beathard, Mullens, and just about every QB that has come here in the past 6 years were not very good. Kyle drafted Trey also (terrible pick IMO) and mismanaged that and ran him.into the ground. It was a disaster IMO.

So long story short. He lucked into a QB with Brock and has pretty much done a piss poor job at QB scouting since he's been here. I'm sorry this is taking the thread astray.

#CMC2024POTUS

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder how many more prime seasons he has left with Kyle running him into the ground.

Not even one. Guaranteed this poor guy goes down at some point next season. Kyle has Eli and Mason and refuses to use both. What an odd coach…

Yah it blows me away too. Eli will come in and rip off a 15 yarder then won't play again the rest of the game or so it seems.

I recognize CMC is the best, but his usage baffles me at times. I don't think he can survive another season with this utilization without an injury. Spell him more coach, please?

Shanny is autistic in that regard. Mitchell and Mason are proven and wildly talented. Refuses both.

Yah it's annoying!

I thought Kyle would produce a QB factory here where we could develop and sell off for high draft picks.

Instead, he developed a RB factory.

I don't know about "sell off for high draft picks", but CJ Beathard, Mullens, Jimmy, all were acquired by other teams and all played last season for their teams. And now Brock looks good. Even Trey had a team that wanted to acquire him.

True story but Kyle was thought by some to be a QB whisperer. It's funny that 6 yrs in we finally have a solid QB and it appears to be by luck.

You can say yah, they scouted Brock and thought highly of.him but he was drafted last so that means they didn't really see a ton of value. More of a potential project. Nobody could have forseen this. There was luck involved.

By that logic, every single HoFer that was drafted in the 2nd round or later was a lucky pick - because they were. Warner/Kittle/Greenlaw/Hufanga/Lenoir, all good players that were lucky picks. Had teams known how good they would be, they would have been 1st rounders over some of the 1st round busts in their respective drafts. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm saying all picks on day2/3 that turn out to be good players were lucky picks to some degree.

Fair enough. I just assumed Kyle had a better grasp on the position. Jimmy was a disaster. Some say he was decent. Maybe he was OK his first season before injury but the system made him serviceable more than anything. He'll. He rarely threw the ball beyond ten yards.

Beathard, Mullens, and just about every QB that has come here in the past 6 years were not very good. Kyle drafted Trey also (terrible pick IMO) and mismanaged that and ran him.into the ground. It was a disaster IMO.

So long story short. He lucked into a QB with Brock and has pretty much done a piss poor job at QB scouting since he's been here. I'm sorry this is taking the thread astray.

#CMC2024POTUS

Finally, someone worth voting for.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder how many more prime seasons he has left with Kyle running him into the ground.

Not even one. Guaranteed this poor guy goes down at some point next season. Kyle has Eli and Mason and refuses to use both. What an odd coach…

Yah it blows me away too. Eli will come in and rip off a 15 yarder then won't play again the rest of the game or so it seems.

I recognize CMC is the best, but his usage baffles me at times. I don't think he can survive another season with this utilization without an injury. Spell him more coach, please?

Shanny is autistic in that regard. Mitchell and Mason are proven and wildly talented. Refuses both.

Yah it's annoying!

I thought Kyle would produce a QB factory here where we could develop and sell off for high draft picks.

Instead, he developed a RB factory.

I don't know about "sell off for high draft picks", but CJ Beathard, Mullens, Jimmy, all were acquired by other teams and all played last season for their teams. And now Brock looks good. Even Trey had a team that wanted to acquire him.

True story but Kyle was thought by some to be a QB whisperer. It's funny that 6 yrs in we finally have a solid QB and it appears to be by luck.

You can say yah, they scouted Brock and thought highly of.him but he was drafted last so that means they didn't really see a ton of value. More of a potential project. Nobody could have forseen this. There was luck involved.

By that logic, every single HoFer that was drafted in the 2nd round or later was a lucky pick - because they were. Warner/Kittle/Greenlaw/Hufanga/Lenoir, all good players that were lucky picks. Had teams known how good they would be, they would have been 1st rounders over some of the 1st round busts in their respective drafts. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm saying all picks on day2/3 that turn out to be good players were lucky picks to some degree.

Fair enough. I just assumed Kyle had a better grasp on the position. Jimmy was a disaster. Some say he was decent. Maybe he was OK his first season before injury but the system made him serviceable more than anything. He'll. He rarely threw the ball beyond ten yards.

Beathard, Mullens, and just about every QB that has come here in the past 6 years were not very good. Kyle drafted Trey also (terrible pick IMO) and mismanaged that and ran him.into the ground. It was a disaster IMO.

So long story short. He lucked into a QB with Brock and has pretty much done a piss poor job at QB scouting since he's been here. I'm sorry this is taking the thread astray.

#CMC2024POTUS

Finally, someone worth voting for.

😁

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder how many more prime seasons he has left with Kyle running him into the ground.

Not even one. Guaranteed this poor guy goes down at some point next season. Kyle has Eli and Mason and refuses to use both. What an odd coach…

Yah it blows me away too. Eli will come in and rip off a 15 yarder then won't play again the rest of the game or so it seems.

I recognize CMC is the best, but his usage baffles me at times. I don't think he can survive another season with this utilization without an injury. Spell him more coach, please?

Shanny is autistic in that regard. Mitchell and Mason are proven and wildly talented. Refuses both.

Yah it's annoying!

I thought Kyle would produce a QB factory here where we could develop and sell off for high draft picks.

Instead, he developed a RB factory.

I don't know about "sell off for high draft picks", but CJ Beathard, Mullens, Jimmy, all were acquired by other teams and all played last season for their teams. And now Brock looks good. Even Trey had a team that wanted to acquire him.

True story but Kyle was thought by some to be a QB whisperer. It's funny that 6 yrs in we finally have a solid QB and it appears to be by luck.

You can say yah, they scouted Brock and thought highly of.him but he was drafted last so that means they didn't really see a ton of value. More of a potential project. Nobody could have forseen this. There was luck involved.

He is in the sense that he makes them look far better than they actually are. Matt Schaub, RG3, Matt Ryan, Nick Mullens, and Jimmy G all were elevated playing under Kyle. We saw how Jimmy looked outside of Kyle's system with his first ever pro OC as his HC. Kyle can have an offense be productive in spite of having substandard QBs (usually).

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder how many more prime seasons he has left with Kyle running him into the ground.

Not even one. Guaranteed this poor guy goes down at some point next season. Kyle has Eli and Mason and refuses to use both. What an odd coach…

Yah it blows me away too. Eli will come in and rip off a 15 yarder then won't play again the rest of the game or so it seems.

I recognize CMC is the best, but his usage baffles me at times. I don't think he can survive another season with this utilization without an injury. Spell him more coach, please?

Shanny is autistic in that regard. Mitchell and Mason are proven and wildly talented. Refuses both.

Yah it's annoying!

I thought Kyle would produce a QB factory here where we could develop and sell off for high draft picks.

Instead, he developed a RB factory.

I don't know about "sell off for high draft picks", but CJ Beathard, Mullens, Jimmy, all were acquired by other teams and all played last season for their teams. And now Brock looks good. Even Trey had a team that wanted to acquire him.

True story but Kyle was thought by some to be a QB whisperer. It's funny that 6 yrs in we finally have a solid QB and it appears to be by luck.

You can say yah, they scouted Brock and thought highly of.him but he was drafted last so that means they didn't really see a ton of value. More of a potential project. Nobody could have forseen this. There was luck involved.

He is in the sense that he makes them look far better than they actually are. Matt Schaub, RG3, Matt Ryan, Nick Mullens, and Jimmy G all were elevated playing under Kyle. We saw how Jimmy looked outside of Kyle's system with his first ever pro OC as his HC. Kyle can have an offense be productive in spite of having substandard QBs (usually).

Totally. I just had hoped he would have a better eye for talent at the position. It's clear he can work with sub par talent.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
This Super Bowl needs to be the CMC, MITCHELL, & MASON SHOW!

With a few to Deebo.

Seriously Kyle needs to run over these guys!

*sigh* my last post in this thread....

Anyway Christian was at UFC 300 last night..

You can see him with a hat on at 6:52 of this video.. (middle to the left)

That fumble though…….SMH

Damn, we really needed 7 points on that drive.

Originally posted by Patton:
That fumble though…….SMH

Damn, we really needed 7 points on that drive.

I see that as one of the biggest moments in the game, it was a good play by Chenal and Karlaftis, bad concentration for CMC, he will use this going forward. We were moving the ball at will. What are the odds CMC fumbles in that moment? has to be small, that game was full of freak moments. (Greenlaw, Luter, etc.)

we'll get em next year

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Patton:
That fumble though…….SMH

Damn, we really needed 7 points on that drive.

I see that as one of the biggest moments in the game, it was a good play by Chenal and Karlaftis, bad concentration for CMC, he will use this going forward. We were moving the ball at will. What are the odds CMC fumbles in that moment? has to be small, that game was full of freak moments. (Greenlaw, Luter, etc.)

we'll get em next year

Yeah I got Roger Craig mems from that. It was a horribly unprotected ball waiting to be swatted lol. It was bad. Greenlaw..could that have been from the crappy practice field? It was like a curse was upon us. When it started raining like crazy in Vegas and the Swift SB poster..I should have known..lol. It was all in the fix for KC lol

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder how many more prime seasons he has left with Kyle running him into the ground.

Not even one. Guaranteed this poor guy goes down at some point next season. Kyle has Eli and Mason and refuses to use both. What an odd coach…

Yah it blows me away too. Eli will come in and rip off a 15 yarder then won't play again the rest of the game or so it seems.

I recognize CMC is the best, but his usage baffles me at times. I don't think he can survive another season with this utilization without an injury. Spell him more coach, please?

Shanny is autistic in that regard. Mitchell and Mason are proven and wildly talented. Refuses both.

Yah it's annoying!

I thought Kyle would produce a QB factory here where we could develop and sell off for high draft picks.

Instead, he developed a RB factory.

I don't know about "sell off for high draft picks", but CJ Beathard, Mullens, Jimmy, all were acquired by other teams and all played last season for their teams. And now Brock looks good. Even Trey had a team that wanted to acquire him.

True story but Kyle was thought by some to be a QB whisperer. It's funny that 6 yrs in we finally have a solid QB and it appears to be by luck.

You can say yah, they scouted Brock and thought highly of.him but he was drafted last so that means they didn't really see a ton of value. More of a potential project. Nobody could have forseen this. There was luck involved.

He is in the sense that he makes them look far better than they actually are. Matt Schaub, RG3, Matt Ryan, Nick Mullens, and Jimmy G all were elevated playing under Kyle. We saw how Jimmy looked outside of Kyle's system with his first ever pro OC as his HC. Kyle can have an offense be productive in spite of having substandard QBs (usually).

Totally. I just had hoped he would have a better eye for talent at the position. It's clear he can work with sub par talent.

Idon't think he has a good eye for offensive talent. From Joe Williams, to banging the table for Beathard, Pettis (I may be assuming this was a guy he really wanted), Trey, etc. Aiyuk was a guy he really liked, but he seems to be an exception. I think Kyle should share the traits he wants with personnel, but let them pick the guy.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder how many more prime seasons he has left with Kyle running him into the ground.

Not even one. Guaranteed this poor guy goes down at some point next season. Kyle has Eli and Mason and refuses to use both. What an odd coach…

Yah it blows me away too. Eli will come in and rip off a 15 yarder then won't play again the rest of the game or so it seems.

I recognize CMC is the best, but his usage baffles me at times. I don't think he can survive another season with this utilization without an injury. Spell him more coach, please?

Shanny is autistic in that regard. Mitchell and Mason are proven and wildly talented. Refuses both.

Yah it's annoying!

I thought Kyle would produce a QB factory here where we could develop and sell off for high draft picks.

Instead, he developed a RB factory.

I don't know about "sell off for high draft picks", but CJ Beathard, Mullens, Jimmy, all were acquired by other teams and all played last season for their teams. And now Brock looks good. Even Trey had a team that wanted to acquire him.

True story but Kyle was thought by some to be a QB whisperer. It's funny that 6 yrs in we finally have a solid QB and it appears to be by luck.

You can say yah, they scouted Brock and thought highly of.him but he was drafted last so that means they didn't really see a ton of value. More of a potential project. Nobody could have forseen this. There was luck involved.

He is in the sense that he makes them look far better than they actually are. Matt Schaub, RG3, Matt Ryan, Nick Mullens, and Jimmy G all were elevated playing under Kyle. We saw how Jimmy looked outside of Kyle's system with his first ever pro OC as his HC. Kyle can have an offense be productive in spite of having substandard QBs (usually).

Totally. I just had hoped he would have a better eye for talent at the position. It's clear he can work with sub par talent.

Idon't think he has a good eye for offensive talent. From Joe Williams, to banging the table for Beathard, Pettis (I may be assuming this was a guy he really wanted), Trey, etc. Aiyuk was a guy he really liked, but he seems to be an exception. I think Kyle should share the traits he wants with personnel, but let them pick the guy.

Hard to argue that. They need to draft way better than they have recently to stay competitive. I wonder how much of this process is simply luck vs skill/coaching etc.

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
You can say yah, they scouted Brock and thought highly of.him but he was drafted last so that means they didn't really see a ton of value. More of a potential project. Nobody could have forseen this. There was luck involved.

Not necessarily. QB was not a position of (known) need at the time (Lance, Sudfeld, Garoppolo all on payroll). That likely would have lead to 49ers passing on Purdy on earlier rounds even if they thought there was value there.