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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs NEW ORLEANS SAINTS - 2022 Game 11

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by Silky:
I'm going to be critical of the Niners in this W because I view our team superior to the Saints.

The offense was average all game...pretty underwhelming performance. The Oline let Jimmy get crushed. I will caveat that all by saying the Saints D is really good. A notch below the Niners level good.

I think our defense is weird. It's oddly great. Between the 20s they were giving up whatever the Saints wanted. The goal line D was fantastic which ultimately led to a shutout. It was a weird shutout however since they were moving up and down the field especially the second half easily.

Overall a good gritty win I suppose. Nothing wrong with that but the offense better bounce back.

We have a very Bendy defense, but they stiffen up when they need to preventing a break.

I love it when the D stiffens. Nothing like a hard D to penetrate the hole and knock the tight end back inside.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy passed for 222 yards which is 27 yards more than the saints 8th ranked pass defenses season average. He had 0 turnovers and a TD pass. He was also drilled on several plays and held in there tough. No complaints from me today about Jimmy. I am worried about the knee injuries to Mitchell and CMC though. Hope the one that Mitchell suffered isn't anything serious and they were just being cautious.

My thoughts exactly.

There were a couple missed throws, a couple bad reads, but OL did him no favors today. He played pretty well overall despite poor OL play and running game never really got going.

Well said. Just glad he didn't seriously get injured...took a ton of head shots and body slams.

OL played fine today with the exception of the run game. Most of the hits Jimmy took were after holding the ball for awhile.



Jimmy took a bunch of hits, at one point early in the 3rs he was knocked down 6 times.

And run blocking also helps a QB if they can get good production out of the run game.

OL played poorly today,no way around it.

It happens though, that's a very good DL, and nobody expected the OL to play this well for the most part this year.

Nah, they played well. Jimmy was holding the ball way too long. I credit the Saints coverage.

This is a joke right??

Has to be

NGS has Jimmy with 2.9 Seconds Time to Throw today. That's almost a full half-second over his season average and for comparison, about a half-second longer than Andy Dalton and almost a full second longer than Colt McCoy last week. Over a full season, 2.9 would be in the bottom 5. In other words, he held the ball a lot longer than usual today.

get your facts out of here, pretty much what I saw too.

Why blame jimmy? Maybe no one open
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saints have a stout D and imo played a little dirty. Not a flashy win, but a win. Let's go get healed up and get ready for a banged up Miami team as well.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
NGS has Jimmy with 2.9 Seconds Time to Throw today. That's almost a full half-second over his season average and for comparison, about a half-second longer than Andy Dalton and almost a full second longer than Colt McCoy last week. Over a full season, 2.9 would be in the bottom 5. In other words, he held the ball a lot longer than usual today.

The Saints' offensive scheme was to get the ball out quickly. Dalton was doing that well. Our defense was not as good at covering the shorter routes as in other games. Hence, Dalton didn't need much time to get to his primaries. When he did need time, he got it.

OTOH, their secondary and LBs were doing a very good job covering all those short routes that Shanahan likes to run. So, Garoppolo had to hold it longer...and he took serious shots for doing so.
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saints have a stout D and imo played a little dirty. Not a flashy win, but a win. Let's go get healed up and get ready for a banged up Miami team as well.


They damn near tried to take Jimmy's legs off.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Silky:
I'm going to be critical of the Niners in this W because I view our team superior to the Saints.

The offense was average all game...pretty underwhelming performance. The Oline let Jimmy get crushed. I will caveat that all by saying the Saints D is really good. A notch below the Niners level good.

I think our defense is weird. It's oddly great. Between the 20s they were giving up whatever the Saints wanted. The goal line D was fantastic which ultimately led to a shutout. It was a weird shutout however since they were moving up and down the field especially the second half easily.

Overall a good gritty win I suppose. Nothing wrong with that but the offense better bounce back.

This is a very good point. can't explain it but it has happens to us frequently. The seasttle win geno smith was....32 OF 35? Something like that.

Lots of teams get yardage on us, NOT in garbage time. It's weird. I think Ryans doesn't go nonlinear soon enough.

AND we still don't have the bookend to Bosa.

We allow a lot of underneath passes because we refuse to let teams beat us over the top. You should take a look at the opponent QB's YPA. Its typically pretty low. Our biggest issue on defense is 3rd and short. Broadcast said we are the worste in the league on 3rd and short. We are one of the best in the league in 3rd and medium and 3rd and long.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Nov 27, 2022 at 6:07 PM ]
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy passed for 222 yards which is 27 yards more than the saints 8th ranked pass defenses season average. He had 0 turnovers and a TD pass. He was also drilled on several plays and held in there tough. No complaints from me today about Jimmy. I am worried about the knee injuries to Mitchell and CMC though. Hope the one that Mitchell suffered isn't anything serious and they were just being cautious.

My thoughts exactly.

There were a couple missed throws, a couple bad reads, but OL did him no favors today. He played pretty well overall despite poor OL play and running game never really got going.

Well said. Just glad he didn't seriously get injured...took a ton of head shots and body slams.

OL played fine today with the exception of the run game. Most of the hits Jimmy took were after holding the ball for awhile.



Jimmy took a bunch of hits, at one point early in the 3rs he was knocked down 6 times.

And run blocking also helps a QB if they can get good production out of the run game.

OL played poorly today,no way around it.

It happens though, that's a very good DL, and nobody expected the OL to play this well for the most part this year.

Nah, they played well. Jimmy was holding the ball way too long. I credit the Saints coverage.

This is a joke right??

Has to be

NGS has Jimmy with 2.9 Seconds Time to Throw today. That's almost a full half-second over his season average and for comparison, about a half-second longer than Andy Dalton and almost a full second longer than Colt McCoy last week. Over a full season, 2.9 would be in the bottom 5. In other words, he held the ball a lot longer than usual today.

get your facts out of here, pretty much what I saw too.

Why blame jimmy? Maybe no one open

I'm not, I was saying that the receivers either weren't getting open or weren't running those quick routes. It's just not as simple as saying that the o-line was bad, because we were holding it a lot longer than usual.
[ Edited by 49ersRing on Nov 27, 2022 at 6:09 PM ]
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Silky:
I'm going to be critical of the Niners in this W because I view our team superior to the Saints.

The offense was average all game...pretty underwhelming performance. The Oline let Jimmy get crushed. I will caveat that all by saying the Saints D is really good. A notch below the Niners level good.

I think our defense is weird. It's oddly great. Between the 20s they were giving up whatever the Saints wanted. The goal line D was fantastic which ultimately led to a shutout. It was a weird shutout however since they were moving up and down the field especially the second half easily.

Overall a good gritty win I suppose. Nothing wrong with that but the offense better bounce back.

This is a very good point. can't explain it but it has happens to us frequently. The seasttle win geno smith was....32 OF 35? Something like that.

Lots of teams get yardage on us, NOT in garbage time. It's weird. I think Ryans doesn't go nonlinear soon enough.

AND we still don't have the bookend to Bosa.

We allow a lot of underneath passes because we refuse to let teams beat us over the top. You should take a look at the opponent QB's YPA. Its typically pretty low. Our biggest issue on defense is 3rd and short. Broadcast said we are the worste in the league on 3rd and short. We are one of the best in the league in 3rd and medium and long.

I think we will be better at 3rd and short with Armstead in the lineup.
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Silky:
I'm going to be critical of the Niners in this W because I view our team superior to the Saints.

The offense was average all game...pretty underwhelming performance. The Oline let Jimmy get crushed. I will caveat that all by saying the Saints D is really good. A notch below the Niners level good.

I think our defense is weird. It's oddly great. Between the 20s they were giving up whatever the Saints wanted. The goal line D was fantastic which ultimately led to a shutout. It was a weird shutout however since they were moving up and down the field especially the second half easily.

Overall a good gritty win I suppose. Nothing wrong with that but the offense better bounce back.

This is a very good point. can't explain it but it has happens to us frequently. The seasttle win geno smith was....32 OF 35? Something like that.

Lots of teams get yardage on us, NOT in garbage time. It's weird. I think Ryans doesn't go nonlinear soon enough.

AND we still don't have the bookend to Bosa.

We allow a lot of underneath passes because we refuse to let teams beat us over the top. You should take a look at the opponent QB's YPA. Its typically pretty low. Our biggest issue on defense is 3rd and short. Broadcast said we are the worste in the league on 3rd and short. We are one of the best in the league in 3rd and medium and long.

I think we will be better at 3rd and short with Armstead in the lineup.

It will be a blessing when we get him back. Very underrated 49er imo.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saints have a stout D and imo played a little dirty. Not a flashy win, but a win. Let's go get healed up and get ready for a banged up Miami team as well.


They damn near tried to take Jimmy's legs off.

Really hope he's ok. Any word?
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saints have a stout D and imo played a little dirty. Not a flashy win, but a win. Let's go get healed up and get ready for a banged up Miami team as well.


They damn near tried to take Jimmy's legs off.

It was sooo close to a season ending injury.
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Silky:
I'm going to be critical of the Niners in this W because I view our team superior to the Saints.

The offense was average all game...pretty underwhelming performance. The Oline let Jimmy get crushed. I will caveat that all by saying the Saints D is really good. A notch below the Niners level good.

I think our defense is weird. It's oddly great. Between the 20s they were giving up whatever the Saints wanted. The goal line D was fantastic which ultimately led to a shutout. It was a weird shutout however since they were moving up and down the field especially the second half easily.

Overall a good gritty win I suppose. Nothing wrong with that but the offense better bounce back.

This is a very good point. can't explain it but it has happens to us frequently. The seasttle win geno smith was....32 OF 35? Something like that.

Lots of teams get yardage on us, NOT in garbage time. It's weird. I think Ryans doesn't go nonlinear soon enough.

AND we still don't have the bookend to Bosa.

We allow a lot of underneath passes because we refuse to let teams beat us over the top. You should take a look at the opponent QB's YPA. Its typically pretty low. Our biggest issue on defense is 3rd and short. Broadcast said we are the worste in the league on 3rd and short. We are one of the best in the league in 3rd and medium and long.

I think we will be better at 3rd and short with Armstead in the lineup.

This. I expect the interior run game will be even better when Armstead is back.

But man... The defense is interesting to watch. Schematically, it does seem like we aim to take away the deep/intermediate stuff and are okay with allowing the short/underneath because our linebackers and secondary are so good at swarming to the ball and tackling. It means that a team would have to play smart, disciplined football to drive the length of the field on us. That can be very hard to do, because offenses more often than not will make a mistake---false start/holding penalties, dropped passes, negative runs, sacks... and then they find themselves in 3rd and long, where Bosa and the rest of the D-line can really get after the QB.

Only a number of offenses in the league can play like that. The Rams tried to methodically move the ball against us in both games this year, but especially the last game... when the offense gained a lead, they had to try and do more intermediate/downfield passing concepts and our pass rush came alive. Our defense is very good and you need a good offense to contend with them.

I feel like our pass rush hasn't been as good as 2019 when we had rookie Bosa, healthy Dee Ford, Buckner, and Armstead... but Bosa has improved since then... the secondary/linebackers are better all-around... and hopefully, the defensive line comes alive late in the season like they did last year. For whatever reason, in the back half of the season, that defensive line was RAVENOUS in getting at the QB. (I thiiiiink that's when Armstead moved to DT).

So yeah, TLDR, we need Arik Armstead back.
[ Edited by Wubbie on Nov 27, 2022 at 6:18 PM ]
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saints have a stout D and imo played a little dirty. Not a flashy win, but a win. Let's go get healed up and get ready for a banged up Miami team as well.


They damn near tried to take Jimmy's legs off.

Really hope he's ok. Any word?

We'll find out tomorrow I think. He was able to finish the game and walked to the presser just fine so there's that.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saints have a stout D and imo played a little dirty. Not a flashy win, but a win. Let's go get healed up and get ready for a banged up Miami team as well.


They damn near tried to take Jimmy's legs off.

Really hope he's ok. Any word?

We'll find out tomorrow I think. He was able to finish the game and walked to the presser just fine so there's that.

Hoping its just a bruise.
Keep 1st in the West with only 13pts, and all the rest of the West got dropped today
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