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SF 49ERS vs Dolphins Pregame Thread - 2022 Season Week 13

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Andy Dalton was scrambling easily on us so yeah ... A true mobile QB is concerning

When will we see one? Tua isn't mobile and has rushed for about as many yards as Jimmy. People are making up stuff about the Dolphins at this point.

Right. Tua isn't a scrambler. He's really accurate on long passes though so they need to get a lot of pressure on him. I doubt our DBs can keep u with Hill and Waddle.

He's not a scrambler, but the dude is actually mobile "inside the pocket". He's shown numerous times that he can buy time and make throws off script.

But both starting tackles are out, correct? That favors us.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Andy Dalton was scrambling easily on us so yeah ... A true mobile QB is concerning

When will we see one? Tua isn't mobile and has rushed for about as many yards as Jimmy. People are making up stuff about the Dolphins at this point.

Right. Tua isn't a scrambler. He's really accurate on long passes though so they need to get a lot of pressure on him. I doubt our DBs can keep u with Hill and Waddle.

He's not a scrambler, but the dude is actually mobile "inside the pocket". He's shown numerous times that he can buy time and make throws off script.

But both starting tackles are out, correct? That favors us.

Big time! Their OL looked night and day different after those two injuries.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Andy Dalton was scrambling easily on us so yeah ... A true mobile QB is concerning

When will we see one? Tua isn't mobile and has rushed for about as many yards as Jimmy. People are making up stuff about the Dolphins at this point.

Right. Tua isn't a scrambler. He's really accurate on long passes though so they need to get a lot of pressure on him. I doubt our DBs can keep u with Hill and Waddle.

He's not a scrambler, but the dude is actually mobile "inside the pocket". He's shown numerous times that he can buy time and make throws off script.

But both starting tackles are out, correct? That favors us.

Big time! Their OL looked night and day different after those two injuries.

Those injuries will surely help, but never underestimate Mcdaniel, he will find some workaround to make up for their losses in the trenches, guaranteed.
[ Edited by D0PEMAN on Nov 30, 2022 at 11:06 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Nice find. Here are the stats on 3rd down in this matchup.

Jimmy- 54/84 for 676 yards, 7 TD's, 1 INT and a 112.0 passer rating.

Tua- 54/73 for 741 yards, 9 TD's, 0 INT's and a 145.6 passer rating.

Guess Tua is bailing out McDaniel a lot too

LOL at Mike McDaniel calling a 41 rushing attempt game where Tua would need to save his HC's philosophy-choice/game plan there.

MIA- 24 rushes per game
36 passes per game

SF- 28 rushes per game
31 passes per game

Tua has averaged 31.6 passes per game. Jimmy has averaged 30.4 passes per game.

I don't really see a huge discrepancy between the offense as far as run/pass split. When you dive deeper though each team have shifted in opposite directions after the RB trades a month ago. We have become more pass centric after acquiring CMC and the dolphins have become more run centric after acquiring Wilson.
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Andy Dalton was scrambling easily on us so yeah ... A true mobile QB is concerning

When will we see one? Tua isn't mobile and has rushed for about as many yards as Jimmy. People are making up stuff about the Dolphins at this point.

Right. Tua isn't a scrambler. He's really accurate on long passes though so they need to get a lot of pressure on him. I doubt our DBs can keep u with Hill and Waddle.

He's not a scrambler, but the dude is actually mobile "inside the pocket". He's shown numerous times that he can buy time and make throws off script.

But both starting tackles are out, correct? That favors us.

Big time! Their OL looked night and day different after those two injuries.

never underestimate Mcdaniel, he will find some workaround to make up for their losses in the trenches, guaranteed.

Remember when Kyle called 8 straight passes behind the LOS when both our tackles were out? And we had like 90 yards YAC from it, IIRC? LOL
Jordan Mason breakout game.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Nice find. Here are the stats on 3rd down in this matchup.

Jimmy- 54/84 for 676 yards, 7 TD's, 1 INT and a 112.0 passer rating.

Tua- 54/73 for 741 yards, 9 TD's, 0 INT's and a 145.6 passer rating.

Guess Tua is bailing out McDaniel a lot too

LOL at Mike McDaniel calling a 41 rushing attempt game where Tua would need to save his HC's philosophy-choice/game plan there.

MIA- 24 rushes per game
36 passes per game

SF- 28 rushes per game
31 passes per game

Tua has averaged 31.6 passes per game. Jimmy has averaged 30.4 passes per game.

I don't really see a huge discrepancy between the offense as far as run/pass split. When you dive deeper though each team have shifted in opposite directions after the RB trades a month ago. We have become more pass centric after acquiring CMC and the dolphins have become more run centric after acquiring Wilson.

The game 9ers4eva was referencing where that passive aggressive comment came from was the Chargers game. I don't ever see a game where MM is calling 41 rushing attempts bashing his head against the wall while still losing in the 4Q.

He's way too pass-first/centric for that, IMHO.
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How's Miami's D? I'm more worried about that with how the SF offense can sometimes be inept. Miami will probably score some points, but can the SF offense score points.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Nice find. Here are the stats on 3rd down in this matchup.

Jimmy- 54/84 for 676 yards, 7 TD's, 1 INT and a 112.0 passer rating.

Tua- 54/73 for 741 yards, 9 TD's, 0 INT's and a 145.6 passer rating.

Guess Tua is bailing out McDaniel a lot too

LOL at Mike McDaniel calling a 41 rushing attempt game where Tua would need to save his HC's philosophy-choice/game plan there.

MIA- 24 rushes per game
36 passes per game

SF- 28 rushes per game
31 passes per game

Tua has averaged 31.6 passes per game. Jimmy has averaged 30.4 passes per game.

I don't really see a huge discrepancy between the offense as far as run/pass split. When you dive deeper though each team have shifted in opposite directions after the RB trades a month ago. We have become more pass centric after acquiring CMC and the dolphins have become more run centric after acquiring Wilson.

The game 9ers4eva was referencing where that passive aggressive comment came from was the Chargers game. I don't ever see a game where MM is calling 41 rushing attempts bashing his head against the wall while still losing in the 4Q.

He's way too pass-first/centric for that, IMHO.

Nope he hasn't but he has called some 40+ pass attempt games where it leaves his QB vulnerable to geting his brain smashed against his skull. Tua is another concussion away from his season ending prematurely. He might want to find away to protect his QB better. Especially now with injuries to both starting OT's.
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Andy Dalton was scrambling easily on us so yeah ... A true mobile QB is concerning

When will we see one? Tua isn't mobile and has rushed for about as many yards as Jimmy. People are making up stuff about the Dolphins at this point.

Right. Tua isn't a scrambler. He's really accurate on long passes though so they need to get a lot of pressure on him. I doubt our DBs can keep u with Hill and Waddle.

He's not a scrambler, but the dude is actually mobile "inside the pocket". He's shown numerous times that he can buy time and make throws off script.

But both starting tackles are out, correct? That favors us.

Big time! Their OL looked night and day different after those two injuries.

Those injuries will surely help, but never underestimate Mcdaniel, he will find some workaround to make up for their losses in the trenches, guaranteed.

Its like McDaniel is Walsh reincarnated and we are coached by the 3 stooges. Its a wonder if Ryans will even get them in 3rd down. If Shanahan can call a play that will even gain a yard. Geniuses that Dolphins staff.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Nice find. Here are the stats on 3rd down in this matchup.

Jimmy- 54/84 for 676 yards, 7 TD's, 1 INT and a 112.0 passer rating.

Tua- 54/73 for 741 yards, 9 TD's, 0 INT's and a 145.6 passer rating.

Guess Tua is bailing out McDaniel a lot too

LOL at Mike McDaniel calling a 41 rushing attempt game where Tua would need to save his HC's philosophy-choice/game plan there.

MIA- 24 rushes per game
36 passes per game

SF- 28 rushes per game
31 passes per game

Tua has averaged 31.6 passes per game. Jimmy has averaged 30.4 passes per game.

I don't really see a huge discrepancy between the offense as far as run/pass split. When you dive deeper though each team have shifted in opposite directions after the RB trades a month ago. We have become more pass centric after acquiring CMC and the dolphins have become more run centric after acquiring Wilson.

The game 9ers4eva was referencing where that passive aggressive comment came from was the Chargers game. I don't ever see a game where MM is calling 41 rushing attempts bashing his head against the wall while still losing in the 4Q.

He's way too pass-first/centric for that, IMHO.

Nope he hasn't but he has called some 40+ pass attempt games where it leaves his QB vulnerable to geting his brain smashed against his skull. Tua is another concussion away from his season ending prematurely. He might want to find away to protect his QB better. Especially now with injuries to both starting OT's.

Totally agree. I live in SoFlo so see all their games as well. And last game he was bent in half so bad I thought his back would break. Scary. The quick TT helps.

I keep hearing fans refer to the offense as a deep threat offense but I'm not so sure (minus that first game). I posted Tua's spray chart and it was nearly identical to here...only 2 passes past 20 yards and 90% in between the hashes.

That's an advantage for our defense.
[ Edited by NCommand on Nov 30, 2022 at 11:19 AM ]
Originally posted by Baldie:
How's Miami's D? I'm more worried about that with how the SF offense can sometimes be inept. Miami will probably score some points, but can the SF offense score points.

Their pass rush looked active last game. Two TO's? 1 returned to the 1 yard line. 30-0 at half basically. Sat Tua the rest of the game. But that was against the Texans and a new starting QB. YAC has better aggregate/cumulative numbers.
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Anyone know how well Charvarius Ward matched up with Tyreek Hill in KC's training camp??
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Andy Dalton was scrambling easily on us so yeah ... A true mobile QB is concerning

When will we see one? Tua isn't mobile and has rushed for about as many yards as Jimmy. People are making up stuff about the Dolphins at this point.

Right. Tua isn't a scrambler. He's really accurate on long passes though so they need to get a lot of pressure on him. I doubt our DBs can keep u with Hill and Waddle.

He's not a scrambler, but the dude is actually mobile "inside the pocket". He's shown numerous times that he can buy time and make throws off script.

But both starting tackles are out, correct? That favors us.

Big time! Their OL looked night and day different after those two injuries.

Those injuries will surely help, but never underestimate Mcdaniel, he will find some workaround to make up for their losses in the trenches, guaranteed.

Its like McDaniel is Walsh reincarnated and we are coached by the 3 stooges. Its a wonder if Ryans will even get them in 3rd down. If Shanahan can call a play that will even gain a yard. Geniuses that Dolphins staff.

Genius sounds about right, considering they turned a lowly franchise into SuperBowl contenders in 1 offseason.
[ Edited by D0PEMAN on Nov 30, 2022 at 11:23 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Nice find. Here are the stats on 3rd down in this matchup.

Jimmy- 54/84 for 676 yards, 7 TD's, 1 INT and a 112.0 passer rating.

Tua- 54/73 for 741 yards, 9 TD's, 0 INT's and a 145.6 passer rating.

Guess Tua is bailing out McDaniel a lot too

LOL at Mike McDaniel calling a 41 rushing attempt game where Tua would need to save his HC's philosophy-choice/game plan there.

MIA- 24 rushes per game
36 passes per game

SF- 28 rushes per game
31 passes per game

Tua has averaged 31.6 passes per game. Jimmy has averaged 30.4 passes per game.

I don't really see a huge discrepancy between the offense as far as run/pass split. When you dive deeper though each team have shifted in opposite directions after the RB trades a month ago. We have become more pass centric after acquiring CMC and the dolphins have become more run centric after acquiring Wilson.

The game 9ers4eva was referencing where that passive aggressive comment came from was the Chargers game. I don't ever see a game where MM is calling 41 rushing attempts bashing his head against the wall while still losing in the 4Q.

He's way too pass-first/centric for that, IMHO.

Nope he hasn't but he has called some 40+ pass attempt games where it leaves his QB vulnerable to geting his brain smashed against his skull. Tua is another concussion away from his season ending prematurely. He might want to find away to protect his QB better. Especially now with injuries to both starting OT's.

Totally agree. I live in SoFlo so see all their games as well. And last game he was bent in half so bad I thought his back would break. Scary. The quick TT helps.

I keep hearing fans refer to the offense as a deep threat offense but I'm not so sure (minus that first game). I posted Tua's spray chart and it was nearly identical to here...only 2 passes past 20 yards and 90% in between the hashes.

That's an advantage for our defense.

The deep threat offense is most certainly overblown. With offensive minds such as Shanahan, McVay and McDaniel it is about efficiency passing first and foremost. They do have the speed to make defenses pay if they catch them slipping though.
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