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Dec 27, 2022 at 1:50 PM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NINERFORLIFE12:
First, big fan of Purdy, and we are firing on most cylinders right now as a team. I am curious to know what the RZ Offense compares under Purdy? McG is a bumb and he screws us all the time, but imo we could have probably hung 50 on them.

The redzone offense has been exactly the same as it has been all season.

Do you have statistics on this? Based on watching the games and memory only, it appeared that our redzone play was much better than its been all season against the Dolphins, Seahawks and Bucs....and much worse than its been all season against the Redskins.

Do you have the stats on this to see if the above is accurate or not?

We are 26 of 51 in the redzone this season. In the last 4 games we are as follows:

MIA- 2 of 5
TB- 2 of 3
SEA - 1 of 2
WAS- 1 of 5
one thing to look at is 3 of the those RZ oppt vs WASH, we were already up at least two scores about to put 30 on them late in the game.. We don't run up scores on teams from looking at Kyle's 49er history

Yet he plays all his starters well into garbage time for fear of a late comeback.
fear no more.. right
Dec 27, 2022 at 1:54 PM
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NINERFORLIFE12:
First, big fan of Purdy, and we are firing on most cylinders right now as a team. I am curious to know what the RZ Offense compares under Purdy? McG is a bumb and he screws us all the time, but imo we could have probably hung 50 on them.

The redzone offense has been exactly the same as it has been all season.

Do you have statistics on this? Based on watching the games and memory only, it appeared that our redzone play was much better than its been all season against the Dolphins, Seahawks and Bucs....and much worse than its been all season against the Redskins.

Do you have the stats on this to see if the above is accurate or not?

We are 26 of 51 in the redzone this season. In the last 4 games we are as follows:

MIA- 2 of 5
TB- 2 of 3
SEA - 1 of 2
WAS- 1 of 5
one thing to look at is 3 of the those RZ oppt vs WASH, we were already up at least two scores about to put 30 on them late in the game.. We don't run up scores on teams from looking at Kyle's 49er history

Yet he plays all his starters well into garbage time for fear of a late comeback.
fear no more.. right

I just mean it's not like Kyle doesn't want to score TD's as I'm sure he'd love to rest his starters comfortably.

But maybe?
Dec 27, 2022 at 4:51 PM
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
One thing that drives me nuts about our offense over the past few years is how little we actually throw the ball into the endzone. Without truly knowing this for sure, I would be willing to bet we throw the ball into the endzone less than any team in the NFL.

Drives me crazy. When you throw the ball into the endzone, all that needs to be done to score a touchdown is catching the ball. In our typical offense we need to catch it, juke a defender/run a defender over, and then outrun the defense into the endzone.

Just throw it in the endzone!

Over the past few years though, Jimmy's ball security was always a concern and our strengths have been to run the ball, and rely on the defense. That's why we've run it more.

Red zone percentage was really good last year, I assume because of Deebo, but with outside zone being weaker this year, teams selling out to stop Deebo… It's unsurprising why we've struggled in the redzone this year.

I feel Shanahan hasn't quite figured out a wrinkle for the redzone… I generally say that it feels like he tries pick plays that have had mild success. Feels like Aiyuk can cook defenders in one on one coverage… I think we'll eventually figure it out though.

I am not talking about our run preference over throwing. I am talking about when we DO throw the ball, its always short of the endzone and requires our WR/TE/RB to make a play to score....rather than just catching the ball.
Dec 27, 2022 at 5:00 PM
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I am not talking about our run preference over throwing. I am talking about when we DO throw the ball, its always short of the endzone and requires our WR/TE/RB to make a play to score....rather than just catching the ball.

Truth.
Dec 27, 2022 at 5:31 PM
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
One thing that drives me nuts about our offense over the past few years is how little we actually throw the ball into the endzone. Without truly knowing this for sure, I would be willing to bet we throw the ball into the endzone less than any team in the NFL.

Drives me crazy. When you throw the ball into the endzone, all that needs to be done to score a touchdown is catching the ball. In our typical offense we need to catch it, juke a defender/run a defender over, and then outrun the defense into the endzone.

Just throw it in the endzone!

Over the past few years though, Jimmy's ball security was always a concern and our strengths have been to run the ball, and rely on the defense. That's why we've run it more.

Red zone percentage was really good last year, I assume because of Deebo, but with outside zone being weaker this year, teams selling out to stop Deebo… It's unsurprising why we've struggled in the redzone this year.

I feel Shanahan hasn't quite figured out a wrinkle for the redzone… I generally say that it feels like he tries pick plays that have had mild success. Feels like Aiyuk can cook defenders in one on one coverage… I think we'll eventually figure it out though.

I am not talking about our run preference over throwing. I am talking about when we DO throw the ball, its always short of the endzone and requires our WR/TE/RB to make a play to score....rather than just catching the ball.

Jimmy threw quite a few TD's inside the 10 yard line this season. You are right in the fact that we do not throw it into the endzone from the 10-20 yard range very often.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Dec 27, 2022 at 5:31 PM ]
Dec 28, 2022 at 5:01 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NINERFORLIFE12:
First, big fan of Purdy, and we are firing on most cylinders right now as a team. I am curious to know what the RZ Offense compares under Purdy? McG is a bumb and he screws us all the time, but imo we could have probably hung 50 on them.

The redzone offense has been exactly the same as it has been all season.

Do you have statistics on this? Based on watching the games and memory only, it appeared that our redzone play was much better than its been all season against the Dolphins, Seahawks and Bucs....and much worse than its been all season against the Redskins.

Do you have the stats on this to see if the above is accurate or not?

We are 26 of 51 in the redzone this season. In the last 4 games we are as follows:

MIA- 2 of 5
TB- 2 of 3
SEA - 1 of 2
WAS- 1 of 5
one thing to look at is 3 of the those RZ oppt vs WASH, we were already up at least two scores about to put 30 on them late in the game.. We don't run up scores on teams from looking at Kyle's 49er history

Yet he plays all his starters well into garbage time for fear of a late comeback.
fear no more.. right

I just mean it's not like Kyle doesn't want to score TD's as I'm sure he'd love to rest his starters comfortably.

But maybe?

Also, penalties. I think MM had a false start on 2 different drives(?) that put us in 3rd and long so we ended up kicking FG's.
Dec 28, 2022 at 7:30 AM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by NINERFORLIFE12:
First, big fan of Purdy, and we are firing on most cylinders right now as a team. I am curious to know what the RZ Offense compares under Purdy? McG is a bumb and he screws us all the time, but imo we could have probably hung 50 on them.

You try playing with broken ribs.

Broken ribs are a weird reason to have mental mistakes. I swear McGlinchey always has an excuse cooked up whenever he struggles.

he has allowed 0 pressures in the last 2 games

i love how people excuse good play by pre conceived biases
Dec 28, 2022 at 12:38 PM
Originally posted by MTninerfan:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NINERFORLIFE12:
First, big fan of Purdy, and we are firing on most cylinders right now as a team. I am curious to know what the RZ Offense compares under Purdy? McG is a bumb and he screws us all the time, but imo we could have probably hung 50 on them.

The redzone offense has been exactly the same as it has been all season.

Do you have statistics on this? Based on watching the games and memory only, it appeared that our redzone play was much better than its been all season against the Dolphins, Seahawks and Bucs....and much worse than its been all season against the Redskins.

Do you have the stats on this to see if the above is accurate or not?

We are 26 of 51 in the redzone this season. In the last 4 games we are as follows:

MIA- 2 of 5
TB- 2 of 3
SEA - 1 of 2
WAS- 1 of 5
one thing to look at is 3 of the those RZ oppt vs WASH, we were already up at least two scores about to put 30 on them late in the game.. We don't run up scores on teams from looking at Kyle's 49er history

Yet he plays all his starters well into garbage time for fear of a late comeback.
fear no more.. right

I just mean it's not like Kyle doesn't want to score TD's as I'm sure he'd love to rest his starters comfortably.

But maybe?

Also, penalties. I think MM had a false start on 2 different drives(?) that put us in 3rd and long so we ended up kicking FG's.

I think YAC said the volume inside the RZ have been low but you're right, any penalty in there is a killer usually.
Dec 28, 2022 at 1:10 PM
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
One thing that drives me nuts about our offense over the past few years is how little we actually throw the ball into the endzone. Without truly knowing this for sure, I would be willing to bet we throw the ball into the endzone less than any team in the NFL.

Drives me crazy. When you throw the ball into the endzone, all that needs to be done to score a touchdown is catching the ball. In our typical offense we need to catch it, juke a defender/run a defender over, and then outrun the defense into the endzone.

Just throw it in the endzone!
Steve, I agree that KS seems to avoid calling plays that direct passes into the end zone from the red zone. If true, is it because he's basically conservative and takes the three points vs. a possible interception, or hasn't he been confident in his QBs, or does he rely on his defense? Maybe it's all these ideas. But, yeah, I'd like to see more passes directly into the EZ.
Dec 31, 2022 at 9:00 AM
Originally posted by ritz126:
he has allowed 0 pressures in the last 2 games

i love how people excuse good play by pre conceived biases

Or he has mental lapses, and can't get out of his own head, and compounds his mistakes, most of the time when the pressure is the highest..RZ, 3rd D, deep in our own field etc. it's not about talent, it's mental..watch the presser with Foerster, if you haven't already
Dec 31, 2022 at 5:16 PM
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by NINERFORLIFE12:
First, big fan of Purdy, and we are firing on most cylinders right now as a team. I am curious to know what the RZ Offense compares under Purdy? McG is a bumb and he screws us all the time, but imo we could have probably hung 50 on them.

You try playing with broken ribs.

wut? link?
Dec 31, 2022 at 7:29 PM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NINERFORLIFE12:
First, big fan of Purdy, and we are firing on most cylinders right now as a team. I am curious to know what the RZ Offense compares under Purdy? McG is a bumb and he screws us all the time, but imo we could have probably hung 50 on them.

The redzone offense has been exactly the same as it has been all season.

Do you have statistics on this? Based on watching the games and memory only, it appeared that our redzone play was much better than its been all season against the Dolphins, Seahawks and Bucs....and much worse than its been all season against the Redskins.

Do you have the stats on this to see if the above is accurate or not?

We are 26 of 51 in the redzone this season. In the last 4 games we are as follows:

MIA- 2 of 5
TB- 2 of 3
SEA - 1 of 2
WAS- 1 of 5
one thing to look at is 3 of the those RZ oppt vs WASH, we were already up at least two scores about to put 30 on them late in the game.. We don't run up scores on teams from looking at Kyle's 49er history

Yet he plays all his starters well into garbage time for fear of a late comeback.
fear no more.. right

I just mean it's not like Kyle doesn't want to score TD's as I'm sure he'd love to rest his starters comfortably.

But maybe?

KS is criticized for giving up leads (e.g. SB's), and criticized for keeping his A-team in to close out wins. Darned if you do, darned if you don't.
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