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Do you see any big differences when Burford is in, versus Brunskill?
Originally posted by jonnydel:
well everyone, it was a frantic couple days to get the review video out so here it is, what are some things y'all would like to see covered before the playoffs?


RZ patterns (good/bad)
How Kyle is setting these deeper shots up (CMC)
Concerns that might be exploited in the playoffs (offense and defense)
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 28, 2022 at 11:46 AM ]
I feel like there are a couple of factors contributing to Purdy's success on deeper shots. One of them is having an ultra-reliable checkdown option in CMC. Having him there as a safety valve allows you to advance deeper in your progressions and have faith that if you do have to dump it off he will be open and have a good shot at getting the yards you need to convert. The other is his mobility. When you have confidence that you can escape some pressure, you're not as worried about getting the ball out as fast and you have more time to look downfield and explore all options.
I love your video and breakdowns.

What is your overall opinion on Purdy, in terms of his play right now leading us in this playoff run as well as his potential going forward? What is his ceiling and etc?
[ Edited by libertyforever on Dec 28, 2022 at 9:58 AM ]
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I love your video and breakdowns.

What is your overall opinion on Purdy, in terms of his play right now leading us in this playoff run as well as his potential going forward? What is his ceiling and etc?

I may differ from some people because I always feel like QB's can have a high ceiling regardless of traditional physical limitations.

For example, Joe didn't have a big arm, wasn't crazy fast but was mobile - his biggest thing was bow he played the game in the fundamentals of footwork and from the shoulders up.

Steve was far more physically gifted but no one puts Steve over Montana.

Brady was severely physically limited when he came out.
Bret Favre was one of the most talented throwers the NFL has ever seen.

Drew Brees was very physically limited.

So much of the QB position is outside the physical traits that, like most real young guys, I think his ceiling is however high he takes it.

I think he's doing a fantastic job right now and hopefully the team doesn't have to test what he can/can't handle in the playoffs. Continue to support and play well behind the kid and let him keep doing what he's doing really well.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I love your video and breakdowns.

What is your overall opinion on Purdy, in terms of his play right now leading us in this playoff run as well as his potential going forward? What is his ceiling and etc?

I may differ from some people because I always feel like QB's can have a high ceiling regardless of traditional physical limitations.

For example, Joe didn't have a big arm, wasn't crazy fast but was mobile - his biggest thing was bow he played the game in the fundamentals of footwork and from the shoulders up.

Steve was far more physically gifted but no one puts Steve over Montana.

Brady was severely physically limited when he came out.
Bret Favre was one of the most talented throwers the NFL has ever seen.

Drew Brees was very physically limited.

So much of the QB position is outside the physical traits that, like most real young guys, I think his ceiling is however high he takes it.

I think he's doing a fantastic job right now and hopefully the team doesn't have to test what he can/can't handle in the playoffs. Continue to support and play well behind the kid and let him keep doing what he's doing really well.

Thank you. I agree 100%. I have been calming people down initially, but I am now fully a Purdy believer. Hope he can keep it up!
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I feel like there are a couple of factors contributing to Purdy's success on deeper shots. One of them is having an ultra-reliable checkdown option in CMC. Having him there as a safety valve allows you to advance deeper in your progressions and have faith that if you do have to dump it off he will be open and have a good shot at getting the yards you need to convert. The other is his mobility. When you have confidence that you can escape some pressure, you're not as worried about getting the ball out as fast and you have more time to look downfield and explore all options.

Bingo.

Another way is utilization. 20 of 23 touches out of the gates go to him, the defense keys up on him and then BAM, deeper shot behind him. Love it!
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 28, 2022 at 11:48 AM ]
BTW - Please don't change your music. It's superbly relaxing.
Do you think they need to run more man coverages on 3rd downs? Seems like they attacked whatever zone Lenior or Huf were supposed to be covering
Originally posted by lamontb:
Do you think they need to run more man coverages on 3rd downs? Seems like they attacked whatever zone Lenior or Huf were supposed to be covering

I think they need to run what they feel will give the best matchups. This week, I see that as quarters/palms on 3rd downs with how Adams can eat man-cov alive. I think the bigger thing is to challenge Stidham to move through progressions of a tricky matching and converting zone with that DL coming at him.

We've had games where man-cov didn't work at all - like the Chargers game. We've had games where zone got eaten up and a game where both got whooped - KC.

I think it comes down to matchups and the opponent.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I love your video and breakdowns.

What is your overall opinion on Purdy, in terms of his play right now leading us in this playoff run as well as his potential going forward? What is his ceiling and etc?

I may differ from some people because I always feel like QB's can have a high ceiling regardless of traditional physical limitations.

For example, Joe didn't have a big arm, wasn't crazy fast but was mobile - his biggest thing was bow he played the game in the fundamentals of footwork and from the shoulders up.

Steve was far more physically gifted but no one puts Steve over Montana.

Brady was severely physically limited when he came out.
Bret Favre was one of the most talented throwers the NFL has ever seen.

Drew Brees was very physically limited.

So much of the QB position is outside the physical traits that, like most real young guys, I think his ceiling is however high he takes it.

I think he's doing a fantastic job right now and hopefully the team doesn't have to test what he can/can't handle in the playoffs. Continue to support and play well behind the kid and let him keep doing what he's doing really well.

So much this!

Physical traits rarely translate to great quarterbacking. Certainly don't hurt, but it takes a lot of elements in alignment, including the system.
John Elway, Dan Marino, heck Randall Cunningham, and more all had physical advantages over Joe. But Joe was the best.

All the floor and ceiling talk is nonsense. I can't help but wonder if a lot of the proponents of those ideas are young ones.

I encourage everybody to revisit Super Bowls 16, 19, 23, and 24.
See Montana's stat line for SB MVP in the first one. Fantasy stat folks will hate it.
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Love your breakdown! It's the video I'm always looking forward to after the game.

A lot of people are saying brock is just another nick mullens. base on what you saw with brock purdy, have you seen any difference between purdy and mullens?
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
I love your video and breakdowns.

What is your overall opinion on Purdy, in terms of his play right now leading us in this playoff run as well as his potential going forward? What is his ceiling and etc?

I may differ from some people because I always feel like QB's can have a high ceiling regardless of traditional physical limitations.

For example, Joe didn't have a big arm, wasn't crazy fast but was mobile - his biggest thing was bow he played the game in the fundamentals of footwork and from the shoulders up.

Steve was far more physically gifted but no one puts Steve over Montana.

Brady was severely physically limited when he came out.
Bret Favre was one of the most talented throwers the NFL has ever seen.

Drew Brees was very physically limited.

So much of the QB position is outside the physical traits that, like most real young guys, I think his ceiling is however high he takes it.

I think he's doing a fantastic job right now and hopefully the team doesn't have to test what he can/can't handle in the playoffs. Continue to support and play well behind the kid and let him keep doing what he's doing really well.

So much this!

Physical traits rarely translate to great quarterbacking. Certainly don't hurt, but it takes a lot of elements in alignment, including the system.
John Elway, Dan Marino, heck Randall Cunningham, and more all had physical advantages over Joe. But Joe was the best.

All the floor and ceiling talk is nonsense. I can't help but wonder if a lot of the proponents of those ideas are young ones.

I encourage everybody to revisit Super Bowls 16, 19, 23, and 24.
See Montana's stat line for SB MVP in the first one. Fantasy stat folks will hate it.

Eh, I think there's some merit to it, but people are just lazy when they evaluate quarterbacks and just use that as short-hand.

As an example of that laziness, even Joe Montana gets caricatured as this smart player with a noodle arm… Sure, he didn't have the arm strength that Marino, Elway, or Steve Young had… but I just watched a video where he does throw some 40 yard passes with zip, with accuracy, and on time. He was an NFL QB that could make ALL the throws, but was especially accurate in the short, very well-timed, pretty mobile, and legendary in his poise.
Great job as always JD
Originally posted by jed_X:
Love your breakdown! It's the video I'm always looking forward to after the game.

A lot of people are saying brock is just another nick mullens. base on what you saw with brock purdy, have you seen any difference between purdy and mullens?

Mullens seemed like he was guessing more than Purdy is and Mullens also seemed like he was trying to force things more.
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